Dusk to Dawn Question - 1 vs 2 for Dome
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I just purchased the "Dusk to Dawn" outside lighting product. The problem is that it uses sky only (not in the description). My project uses dome and scene only, and I can't change it.
I'm curious to know if Dusk to Dawn 2 can be used with dome and scene, as it talks about dome textures.
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There's just no support for this product. I could really use a hand.
Thanks so much in advance.
Did you start here with the User's guide?
Where is that located?
I typed it into the search of my content library, but it's not showing up. I'm pretty new to DAZ.
Thank you.
The Folder path is Your Content Directory/Light Presets/ IG Lights/IG Iray Dawn to Dusk 2. Are you using smart content or connect, or just the folder tree?
OMG, I'm sorry.
It wasn't showing up. I saved my project, and the folder tree reset . . . or something. But it's there now.
Thank you.
You might not believe this, but there's no user's guide -- not under products/D/Dawn to Dusk Light 2, or under My DAZ 3D Library/IG Lights/Dawn to Dusk 2.
It's just not there.
I see this as the first sentence in the product description. "Add a little drama while getting the most out of your built-in Iray Sun-Sky Environment." Why can't you change out of using the dome if you don't mind me asking? Is it for a specific backdrop you need on the environment dome? If we knew the end use we could advise better.
The dome in Dawn 2 dusk 2 is the atmosphere dome that is responsible for creating the hazy effects seen in the promos. The dome textures mentioned in the product desciption are the different amounts of fog and different color settings for the atmosphere. You definately can use the atmosphere dome to get smoke and haze, while using the Dome and Scene setting in the Environment mode, but the light is going to be different from what is shown in the promos.
Edit: I'm going to assume that the confusion here is completely down the difference in the Iray vs 3DL versions of these products that we sorted in the other thread.
Double Click the icon and it launches a script that will open a PDF of the guide.
There nothing to click but lighting options. Perhaps they changed it?
Here's a screenshot of what I have.
Oh snap! That one is the 3Delight product. If you are rendering in Iray, it won't do you a bit of good. Put in a help ticket to return it if you need to.
There nothing to click but lighting options. Perhaps they changed it?
Here's a screenshot of what I have.
Will do. Thank you for your time. I appreciate you helping me sort this out.
I'll get a refund.
Pick up Iray Dawn to Dusk 2 instead because it is very cool.
I know it is super confusing that 3Delight products don't say they are only 3Delight products. Anything that came out before Iray was integrated was by default 3Delight.
No, that's what I have. I bought the Dusk to Dawn, but the one I'm talking about here is Dusk to Dawn 2.
Is Dusk to Dawn 2 Iray or 3Delight?
Here's what I'm doing.
I have a floor plan for a house. The house is a map for a game. I want to render out a top view of the house for every hour of the day, transitioning from dusk to dawn and back around again. I was hoping either one of the dusk to dawn products would make this easier. The reason I can't change to sun-sky only is because I'm using scene lights and the dome light in iray. If I do sun-sky only, the lights in the house don't show up nearly as well. I've got a fine balance between outside and inside exposure, which is crucial for what I'm doing.
But I really just need the day through to night and around again transitions.
Iray https://www.daz3d.com/ig-iray-dawn-to-dusk-2-atmospheric-lighting
3Delight https://www.daz3d.com/dawn-to-dusk-lighting-2
The one in your screen cap is the 3DL version
Got it. That sounds cool. Yes it is true that the standard spotlights and point lights do not work with the sun/sky mode, but emissive mesh lights do work. If it is possible to swap out the house lights to a similar emissive mesh light, Iray Dawn to Dusk (version 1) should work well for the project.
Is there an Iray version? That might be sweet.
Thank for the tips, but it won't work. Though all of the lamps in the house are emissive, as well as the decorative lights (kitchen cabinet lights, bathroom fixtures, etc) are all mesh, because of the exposure difference between inside and outside lights, I needed a few linear points in every room to split that difference. They act as ambiance boosters. You see, I've got an invisible roof casting shadows into the rooms. The floorplan is for a game, and players will need to see what's going on inside and outside, but the light from outside was pouring in over the walls. So I created the invisible/shadow-casting object.
It looks amazing.
Anyway, because of that, this unique setup has created some unusual lighting challenges.
It's been a challenge.
By the way. How did you know it was 3Delight?
For future purchases, I'll need to spot the difference.
I recognized the thumbnails in your screen grab as the 3Delight version. If you are looking at the store pages if it doesn't say Iray, it is most likely for 3Delight. Some older stuff will be for Poser even. Start a thread in the forum if you are unsure.
Will do.
Thank you.
Well, if you could change the point lights to primitive planes with the emissive shader on them, it may work, but I'll leave you to it. It isn't ideal but I've seen cases where the walls were also set to lightly emissive to fill in the ambient light.
Best of luck with it!
Quick workaround that might work for you. While you are in Dome & Scene if you remove the HDRI from the Environment Iray will actually default to use the Sun-Sky model while allowing DS default and emissive lighting to cast light in your scene, so that might work for you. How different that will be from what you have set up now I dond't know. HDRI can vary to a large degree so the sun-sky might be very different looking.
If your going to use the presets from Iray Dawn to Dusk to point the sun, please note that everytime you apply a preset it will reset your environment mode to Sun-Sky Only so you will have to manually set it to Dome and Scene before you render.
The two threads were merged as they are too similar to have two different ones. We would suggest that you, instead, change the thread name if you have decided the thread should go into a different direction than you started out with.