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Choosing hardware for a computer for larger scene rendering

RemiliaSuttonRemiliaSutton Posts: 173
in Technical Help (nuts n bolts)

I have an hp proliant dL 360 g7 server with dual x5660 hexacore Xeons a quadro 600 1gb I wanna put about 32gb ddr3 ram (it takes 192gb max) and an ssd boot drive and upgrade the to a quadro 4000 2gb after I get the auxiliary power cable to hook it up to the server motherboard it comes with. But is that setup enough?

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,218

    For what? Neither a 1GB not a 2GB GPU is going to be much use for Iray.

  • kenshaw011267kenshaw011267 Posts: 3,805

    No. 2 Gb VRAM will allow you to render a bare bones scene with one or 2 G8 characters. Beyond that...

    Spend the money you want to spend on RAM, 32 Gb is overkill for rendering unless you have a GPU with more than 8Gb of VRAM, on a better GPU.

  • LenioTGLenioTG Posts: 2,118
    remiliascomputers said:

    I have an hp proliant dL 360 g7 server with dual x5660 hexacore Xeons a quadro 600 1gb I wanna put about 32gb ddr3 ram (it takes 192gb max) and an ssd boot drive and upgrade the to a quadro 4000 2gb after I get the auxiliary power cable to hook it up to the server motherboard it comes with. But is that setup enough?

    No!

    Get at least a used GTX 1060 6Gb. It sounds less "crazy" than a Quadro, but it will be much faster, because you'll actually be able to use it!

  • JamesJABJamesJAB Posts: 1,760
    edited April 2019

    Oh... You are literaly in a tight space with this server.
    1U form factor
    1x low profile single slot PCI-e 8x (useless for 3D capable GPUs)
    1x Full height Single slot PCI-e 16x

    Here are your single slot 5GB+ Iray capable GPU options:

    Nvidia Quadro M4000 8GB
    Nvidia Quadro P2000 5GB (75W card. no extra power connector needed)
    Nvidia Quadro P4000 8GB
    Nvidia Quadro RTX 4000 8GB (This one uses 10W more than the rating for the slot+power cable

    For these you will need to have the following in your server:
    * HP DL360G6 PCI Thermal Power Cable Kit
    * And at leat the 750W Power supply

    Post edited by JamesJAB on
  • kenshaw011267kenshaw011267 Posts: 3,805

    You don't have to put quadro's in a server box. Old quadro's cheap enough to be worth putting in are also nearing the end of their support by Nvidia which means end of life in iray as well.

  • JamesJABJamesJAB Posts: 1,760
    edited April 2019
    kenshaw011267 said:

    You don't have to put quadro's in a server box. Old quadro's cheap enough to be worth putting in are also nearing the end of their support by Nvidia which means end of life in iray as well.

    The issue here is that the HP Proliant DL 360 G7 is a 1U form factor.  While it can accomidate a full height and full length GPU, it can only take a single slot card.
    The fastest single slot consumer GPU is the Geforce GT 1030  2GB.
    The Quadro M4000 8GB is still a very good card and can be had for around $275.
    To give you an idea of the limited space, here's what the back of this server looks like.

    hp_proliant_dl360_g7_rear.jpg
    1018 x 260 - 90K
    Post edited by JamesJAB on
  • OZ-84OZ-84 Posts: 137
    JamesJAB said:
    kenshaw011267 said:

    You don't have to put quadro's in a server box. Old quadro's cheap enough to be worth putting in are also nearing the end of their support by Nvidia which means end of life in iray as well.

    The issue here is that the HP Proliant DL 360 G7 is a 1U form factor.  While it can accomidate a full height and full length GPU, it can only take a single slot card.
    The fastest single slot consumer GPU is the Geforce GT 1030  2GB.
    The Quadro M4000 8GB is still a very good card and can be had for around $275.
    To give you an idea of the limited space, here's what the back of this server looks like.

    Thats not correct ...

    the fastest single slot consumer card is this here 

    http://www.kfa2.com/kfa2/graphics-card/10-series/kfa2-geforcer-gtx-1070-katana.html

     

  • JamesJABJamesJAB Posts: 1,760
    OZ-84 said:
    JamesJAB said:
    kenshaw011267 said:

    You don't have to put quadro's in a server box. Old quadro's cheap enough to be worth putting in are also nearing the end of their support by Nvidia which means end of life in iray as well.

    The issue here is that the HP Proliant DL 360 G7 is a 1U form factor.  While it can accomidate a full height and full length GPU, it can only take a single slot card.
    The fastest single slot consumer GPU is the Geforce GT 1030  2GB.
    The Quadro M4000 8GB is still a very good card and can be had for around $275.
    To give you an idea of the limited space, here's what the back of this server looks like.

    Thats not correct ...

    the fastest single slot consumer card is this here 

    http://www.kfa2.com/kfa2/graphics-card/10-series/kfa2-geforcer-gtx-1070-katana.html

     

    I stand corrected.... let me correct my statement.
    "The fastest single slot consumer GPU that you can find for purchase new or used is the Geforce GT 1030  2GB.

  • kenshaw011267kenshaw011267 Posts: 3,805
    JamesJAB said:
    OZ-84 said:
    JamesJAB said:
    kenshaw011267 said:

    You don't have to put quadro's in a server box. Old quadro's cheap enough to be worth putting in are also nearing the end of their support by Nvidia which means end of life in iray as well.

    The issue here is that the HP Proliant DL 360 G7 is a 1U form factor.  While it can accomidate a full height and full length GPU, it can only take a single slot card.
    The fastest single slot consumer GPU is the Geforce GT 1030  2GB.
    The Quadro M4000 8GB is still a very good card and can be had for around $275.
    To give you an idea of the limited space, here's what the back of this server looks like.

    Thats not correct ...

    the fastest single slot consumer card is this here 

    http://www.kfa2.com/kfa2/graphics-card/10-series/kfa2-geforcer-gtx-1070-katana.html

     

    I stand corrected.... let me correct my statement.
    "The fastest single slot consumer GPU that you can find for purchase new or used is the Geforce GT 1030  2GB.

    I build servers for a living. I don't need 1u explained. There are single slot cards out there and there likely will be single slot 20xx cards soon. Galax and Zotac both have a tradition of making single slot and low profile cards.

    Furthermore it is extremely unlikely that the OP is putting that in a rack so leaving the top off the case, or modding it to give more room, are options as is running the card on a riser outside the case entirely.. Anyone buying cheap used servers for personal use should be prepared to do that sort of thing

  • RemiliaSuttonRemiliaSutton Posts: 173

    I'm using a t5610 dell workstation computer with a 1300 80 plus gold rated psu 96gb ram ddr3 (128 max ram and 2x 10 core 2011 v2 CPUs which I can grab used for less than $400) and a m6000 quadro. Will adding a m4000 or two help or hurt? I can't afford a $400 plus gpu! No way no how I'm on a fixed budget. The m6000 I got lucky on when it comes to the third stimulus check but we're not gonna get a fourth but whatever.

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