GPU questions
Still researching computers - have one mostly built, and still deciding on GPU. Not being a true "computer person," I am confused by a lot of what I read. Most online info seems meant for gamers who are overclocking and I have no interest in that. Also, people will say that certain GPUs are "better" - but never really say better at *what*. Speed? Quality? Complex renders? Recently I saw a post that said two particular GPUs are almost identical, but the much higher priced one simply has more blinking LEDs and more overclocking protection. Not interested in paying for those things.
My interest is just rendering, and just stills for now. I'm interested in doing higher-res renders in the shortest time I can. I usually do NOT do complex renders or big scenes. I am NOT currently doing animation and don't expect I will. I've been looking at the 1660 ti, 1070 ti, 1080 ti, 2070 ti, and 2080 ti. So, questions:
1) I've seen that the 2080 ti and the 1660 ti run on a beta program for DAZ. Saw this in a thread - maybe outdated info by now. Is this still true? Is it true of other units I'm considering? I don't want to mess with beta.
2) For renders, what's the main advantage of ti versus non-ti?
3) I've heard about "issues" with RTX. But I can't seem to see what the "issues" are? Anyone have experiences?
4) For price point, the 1070 ti and 2070 ti look good - so is the performance close to the same for these for what I'm doing?
Would appreciate any other tips you might think handy to pass on. I've been rendering on a MacBook, so anything will be better than what I have. Still, I don't want to break the bank for something that's only a fraction better for my purposes.
Thanks for reading a long post. Hope somebody can help!
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Hi again alisa :D
Don't worry about using the Beta, it's pretty stable, you just have to save your work more often. On the other hand, it has many new features and bug corrections. And it will, sooner or later, become like the "stable" version, probably in some months.
The reason why Daz 4.10 doesn't support new GPUs is because they're new.
Of every GPU there are many option, who vary a lot regarding price. Don't care about that. The main difference is actually cooling, but new GPUs don't get that hot anyway. So, since cooling requires fans, the main difference is about noise. Check some review of the model you choose to see how much noise it makes, and don't go either too high or too low with price. Great brands are Asus, Gigabyte, MSI, while Zotac and EVGA are good enough. This doesn't effect performance if you're not overclocking, but just the noise stuff and the durability of your GPU. Usually, the more fans it has, the better. 2 fans is a good compromise.
That "Ti" just indicates that it's a little bit more powerful than the non-Ti version: don't care about that, it's not an absolute difference.
I guess those RTX issues will be fixed in some months. On the other hand, RTX means that there are new "tensor cores" in that GPU. Those cores could be used in many new ways for productivity, and we still can't see their full potential. And the RTX cards usually have a good "standard" power too: for example, a RTX 2060 has about the "standard" power of a GTX 1070 Ti, plus those tensor cores, that could make a huge difference in the future.
That's why I would prefer newer GPUs if the price is similar, but of course you could find great deals on the used market. And I'd still prefer a GTX 1660 Ti over a 1070, because there are some architectural advantages.
In Italy the 2070 Ti has a bad value, while the 2060 and the 2070 look good. The main difference between them is the VRAM, that I've already talked about in your last post :D
The 2060 has 6Gb, while the 2070 has 8Gb. But 6Gb is not bad, especially if your CPU already has an integrated graphic card.
I'm about to build myself a new pc and I've spent the last few weeks looking at parts, watching youtube videos and reading reviews. Of course, when it comes to cards, the reviews are all about gaming and it's difficult to get any info that's relevant to 3d rendering. But here's what I've personally come up with.
I don't render huge scenes so I don't need a massive card. I had initially decided on the 1660ti (Asus Dual Fan). It's great mid-range card and would be a big improvement on my GTX 970. In Italy, it costs around 320 euro. But about a week ago, I had a change of heart and started looking at the RTX 2060 (Asus again). I read all the threads here at DAZ and a lot of reviews. It's a bit difficult to say for sure if RTX will eventually have benefits, but in the end, I've now decided to go with the 2060. It costs 100 euro more, but the money isn't an issue. In fact, if I wanted to, I could spend 1000+ euro on a card. I've got the money. (I'm paying an extra 120 euro for custom colored cables just to make my pc look nice!) I just don't need anything that wonderful in a GPU. I want a decent card that will render reasonably fast, not overheat and not make an awful racket.
I don't have an issue with using the DS beta. Everything I've read here in the forums indicates it's pretty rock-solid for a beta. and I imagine it will become a stable release at some point. What my decision really came down to was paying an extra 100 for an unknown quantity - RTX, plus a slight increase in speed. I've seen posters here rave about 1080s and whatnot, but I ruled out old cards from the very start. In Italy, these cards are at outrageous prices, and anyway, why buy old tech and pay over the odds for the privilege?
I'm not sure how helpful this all is to the OP, but I'm pretty happy with my choice now.
I'm from Italy too, and I think the 2060 is a great choice here! ^^
Actually, you can find a lot of them cheaper than 425€...but I have more "money problems", lucky you xD
I've built 5 PCs and I've been into tech for 2 years now.
Yes, there are plenty below that price, but not the one I'm looking at - the Asus dual fan OC version. The others are either Phoenix single fan, the Advanced or the TUF gaming version, etc. I checked Trovaprezzi and did find one at just under 400, but I'd rather order everything from one supplier and pay a little extra.
This is only my second build, but the 1st one I did in 2013 has gone like a dream and never given a single problem. It's just a bit old now. But I'll never buy off-the-shelf again. I can choose exactly what I want in a pc and it's fun building it! LOL.