Optimal Computer Specs for Improved Viewport Functionality
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My laptop is an Alienware17, i7-4700MQ CPU at 2.40Ghz(quad-core), 16Gb RAM, graphics card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 765M(768 CUDA Cores & 2Gb VRAM) with Win7 Ultimate. I'm trying to configure a desktop for improved Iray rendering and overall better performance in Daz vs. what I have currently on the laptop. The system I have in mind will have the Z390 chipset, i9-9900K 3.6Ghz(16-thread 8-core 5.0Ghz Turbo) CPU, 32Gb RAM, and an RTX 2070 8Gb VRAM. The monitor I plan to get will most likely be a 27" 1440p G-Sync TN panel.
The main problem I have with Daz on my laptop is I need to be picky with the hair & clothes I use on characters; otherwise movement & control manipulation in the viewport becomes real slow/laggy. This gets irritating when trying to fit the items properly on characters. Which would give a better improvement in this area: a higher clockspeed with fewer cores or more cores in the CPU? I was thinking about an X299 system, but they're a bit more expensive and I would rather put that extra money aside towards an additional graphics card later on.
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Look under edit - preferences - interface - display optimization and choose BEST and see if that helps with the viewport lag.
I made sure I did that a while back for sure, lol! I use to have issues with just about any character I loaded before I had that set properly.
Go to Windows/Panes(Tabs)/Draw Settings.
Make sure it is set for Drawstyle/Nvidia Iray.
Go to Drawing and change the Response Threshold (msecs), (mine is at 500), and the Manipulation Resolution, (mine is at ¼ ).
There are other settings in there if you change the Drawstyle to any of the other Drawstyles, (Texture Shaded, Cartoon Shaded, etc.)
If you can go with an R7 2700 and X470 chipset rather than the i9. You'll save several hundred dollarswhich should let you get the 2080 immediately or make the wait to get a better card shorter. If you have to stick with intel CPU's the i7 9700 is also cheaper and will handle the requirements of DS just fine. You really do not need the overclockable i9 unless you are a very hard core gamer looking to get every frame possible or you have money to burn.
Is that because you're using Iray preview?
It seems strange to me that Texture Shaded does that!
Don't spend that much money. I have a Ryzen 3 1200 at the moment, with a cheap A320M motherboard and just 8Gb of RAM, and nothing lags.
I'd wait for the Ryzen 3400G, so that you won't occupy any VRAM for your display: https://segmentnext.com/2019/04/22/ryzen-3200g-3400g/
Yeah, sure enough the damn thing was turned off for some reason, thanks! I know I had it set to BEST, but at some point it got changed back. Suki's eyebrows no longer give me the lag issue. I guess I can start using a wider variety of hair on my characters now, too.
I never ever use Iray Preview. When it comes to the cost of the system, I'm probably not going to spend anything less than $3,800. When I buy a desktop system, I buy it to last and for upgradeability. I also game, so the system won't just be for Daz rendering. The main reason I'm going for 32Gb RAM is so I'll be able to multi-task when I add another graphics card(i'll be able to render and game at the same time). Depending on how the prices drop, I might add a 2080 Ti or Titan RTX later on, which will definitely need the extra RAM.
Well, for that price you could basically have anything! ^^
As Linus Sebastian (my tech guru, if not THE tech guru in general) always says, you should always build the system you need today, because future proofing is a weak concept in technology, and for the same money you'll have much better in the future when you'll need something more powerful!
Consider that with products like Render Queue you could render while you're not using your PC (spending 10/20$), and doing everything you want where you're at home.
Gaming while rendering could still need some tweaks anyway.
But if you're very rich, take the best you can and I guess you'll be fine in any case! :D
If you're someone that works in IT, then yes, it makes sense because in a business environment you're trying to keep the cost of overhead down. However, I'm not worried about overhead cost as much and more concerned about not having to go out and buy major upgrades or an entire new system every couple of years. I'm not rich, I just buy a new system about every 7 years, which gives me enough time to save up and buy the next decent system that will last.
Yeah, $3800 I could have just about anything if I was able to build it myself, but I'm not comfortable with being my own tech support. I could probably cut the cost down to $2800 or less, but then I would have to worry about upgrading the power supply, RAM, storage, more cooling fans, etc., which would end up costing more in the long run since I don't do my own upgrades.
While I'm sure RenderQueue is useful for those doing round-the-clock renderings, that's not something I have planned and one of the other reasons I have my eye on throwing in a 2080Ti or Titan RTX later on down the road(if & when the prices become more sane). This way I can render the stuff I want in a couple of hours or less.
Oh, I see!
I love to upgrade my system every once in a while, so I usually take what I need when I need it!
It's not that hard to upgrade. You just have to choose well:
For example, if you're from the United States, you could build this PC I've thought for you (not trying to sell anything, I'm from the other part of the world, I'm just passionate about tech in general): https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Bdk7QZ
It's very powerful, for 2340$, with the specs you've listed. If they're asking you 3800 for this, they're probably trying to swindle you! :(
Again, that Linus has tried who sells desktop PCs, and here are the results:
Assembling compueters is really simple. The only tricky part is plugging in the front panel connectors which I have to do with tweezers. Upgrading an existing system is crazy simple.. All the things you'd replace, RAM, CPU,CPU cooler, GPU and PSU have one way connectors and if you are straight upgrading its a really easy process.
I really don't see what that has to do with anything. I mean in this day and age can't we be a little more accepting of others' lifestyles? /joking
I hope that's not what he was meaning...
Anyway, building a PC is not that hard, but, as I've said in my previous post, upgrading RAM, Drive and GPU is very very simple. It may be worth 1000$ to learn that, IMHO ^^