Every G3 is now a body builder as DEFAULT.

Griffin Avid

So with all the Duplicate Formulas and ID issues....

I now get the body building morphs set as active everytime I load a character.

There are obvious fixes like - turn the damn thing(s) off and save BUT......

What's the OFFICIAL FIX from DAZ?

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I already Googled numerous threads and downloaded scripts and selected files and all of that.

And I don't think I want to be doing that anymore.

I think we need to go back to the source and figure out how all of this started and fix some things on the back end or front end if we mean the offending products.

I can't have all my characters on steroids.

Leana

If you load a new G3 figure and look at the "currently used" parameters, what do you see? That problem usually comes from a character saved with a non-zero default value, so it should be listed in currently used morphs too. 

Griffin Avid

Yes, those are the 'in-use' morphs that I returned to zero to fix the characters.

I knew it was related to their body shape since they were all hulked-out. lol

So I know WHICH ONES are affected, I just don't know the source product that started all the trouble.

I know it's NOT those morphs because I've had them for a while and this issue is recent.

 

Leana

I can't see them all on the screenshot, which dial was the one at the top with the value set too "1.0"? That kind of value makes it look like a good candidate for a character master dial IMO.

Griffin Avid

So it's related to the Duplicate Formulas Errors...

I followed these instructions, from this thread...

https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/22220/duplicate-formulas-error-solved-thank-you-bejaymac

and found THIS guy is the source of the over-written G3 settings

https://www.daz3d.com/mace-for-genesis-3-male

No update for this figure....

And still I have all default bodybuilders whenever I load a G3 Male characters.

After loading a hulkish figure, I checked to see what morphs needed zero'ing aand edited all of them individually and no changes.

I uninstalled that Figure and at least G3 Males load normally.

Zeddicus also gives me Duplicate Formulas for the Hurt pose set, but that doesn't seem to be an issue at the moment so I'm holding steady, here for now.

Maybe we should start a thread listing all the products that are causing these type of errors for Daz Support or the vendors could start making fixes......

Leana

The “morph applies by default” problem is not related to the duplicate formulas error, it’s simply due to the way the character was saved. The dial with the non-zero value is the main character dial, so editing the individual morph won’t fix it.

If you think this character is the one causing the problem then you should open a support ticket to let Daz know so that they can have it fixed.

Slosh

Easiest way I know of to fix the figure loading with morphs dialed in is to reinstall Genesis 3 Male.  You could dial out the morphs, then resave the figure over your original Genesis 3 Male, but I wouldn't recommend it unless you know what you are doing

 

Griffin Avid

You could dial out the morphs, then resave the figure over your original Genesis 3 Male, but I wouldn't recommend it unless you know what you are doing

Well, that's basically what those instructions are saying to do.

Load the G3 figure and zero the morphs and then resave.

I think it is related because those morphs are listed in the log file along with the zeddicus....

Once I removed that figure from the library, I now only have the Zed errors.....

If it's just all one big coincidence then fine.

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I'm saying then- that the default G3 has that Figure's morphs loaded in.

Maybe this is a new issue and I;m the first to have it?

I find that unlikely, but then there have been products that were missing core files- that I must have been the first person to actually try and use them - because they did fix it after I made a ticket.

How can a product be around for that long and nobody EVER tried to use it?