DFORCE

ale.bersanetti

Hi, i'm very confused about dforce, could be used on clothes with buttons and belt like a trenchcoat? As you see in picture, i applied dforce on trenchcoat. The character is a morph from genesis 8 female and the trenchcoat is for genesis 3 female, but i've previously converted it for genesis 8 with Clothing Converter from Genesis 3 Female to Genesis 8 Female. I choose a pose for the character and when i click "Simulate" the trenchcoat slowly moves and the buttons and the belt start to move deforming. I can't finish the simulation since the monitor turns black and Daz Studio crashes all the time. I'm doing something wrong or dforce can't be applied to such clothes? Thanks for your suggestions.

Richard Haseltine

Which trenchcoat is it?

ale.bersanetti

https://www.daz3d.com/trench-coat-outfit-for-genesis-3-female-s

Richard Haseltine

Does it work on Genesis 3 Female?

Richard Haseltine

It explodes for me. I also has a lot of short springs, which will at least slow the simulation. I think that, without editing, thgis is not a suitable item for dForce.

BeeMKay

I can't help you with the coat, but you might find this thread useful in general as it explains a lot on how dForce works: https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/208141/how-to-use-dforce-creating-a-blanket-draping-clothes-on-furniture-and-much-more-commercial#latest

L'Adair

BeeMKay said:

I can't help you with the coat, but you might find this thread useful in general as it explains a lot on how dForce works: https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/208141/how-to-use-dforce-creating-a-blanket-draping-clothes-on-furniture-and-much-more-commercial#latest

+1

Also my thread on dForce may help you with using dForce on some of the older products in the store: dForce, dWeight and dWardrobe. Chronicles of...

(I actually have that Trench Coat… Can you give us a screenshot of the character in pose wearing the coat, before any attempt at dForcing of course.)

ale.bersanetti

https://www.daz3d.com/trench-coat-outfit-for-genesis-3-female-s

L'Adair said:

BeeMKay said:

I can't help you with the coat, but you might find this thread useful in general as it explains a lot on how dForce works: https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/208141/how-to-use-dforce-creating-a-blanket-draping-clothes-on-furniture-and-much-more-commercial#latest

+1

Also my thread on dForce may help you with using dForce on some of the older products in the store: dForce, dWeight and dWardrobe. Chronicles of...

(I actually have that Trench Coat… Can you give us a screenshot of the character in pose wearing the coat, before any attempt at dForcing of course.)

Hi, thanks for your help, attached you can find an example before dforce, posed adjusting the parameters (hip front +100%), but as you see it's innatural the trenchcoat behaviour.

ale.bersanetti

Thanks to everyone for the help and suggestion

L'Adair

Thanks for the screenshot. I'm going to go tinker around for a bit. Might be tomorrow before I can get back to you.

L'Adair

I'm sorry to report it isn't looking good.

I'm trying to make it work by limiting the influence to the waist down and using the Timeline to simulate. However, there are several problems with this mesh, in terms of using dForce.

• The buttons, and the thread holding the buttons onto the coat, are all part of the object. They distort when dForced if you don't limit the influence, and don't move at all when you do.
• The thickness that I love about this coat uses mesh that wraps around. When draping, especially the hem, the extra polys want to fall down. Restricting their influence means the polys around them are constrained. The hem ends up uneven as well.
• The default dForce settings leave the fabric too soft, allowing it to flow between her legs on the chair. Adjusting to make the fabric stiffer ends up with the front opening too far, with a lot of bits intersecting.

If I needed this for a render and nothing else would do, I could probably make it work, but not without a lot of changes, and a whole lot of trial and error with the weight maps. And a lot of touch up in Photoshop.

But to be honest, I'd have already decided on either a different outfit, or a standing pose that doesn't require the coat to bend so deeply.