how you think about this in the gallery...already deleted

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  • JennKJennK Posts: 834
    edited December 1969

    chohole said:
    One of my pet peeves is those people who come along, upload a whole bunch of images without even a simple category on them, let only any note of software or products used and no tags. That is of course why they can upload so many images so quickly and thus hog a whole page or more in the New section, but it isn't being fair on others, who want to browse the artwork.

    to add to what you've said, i've noticed a few who have even re-uploaded the same bunch images a second time to get their work on the front page again. (i may have just given you a greater pet peeve now)

    I don't know if there's a rule covering this but if you see it I would certainly report it so that the Gallery team can review the situation.

    I have seen it as well, but my thought was that maybe they wanted a new date to get into the next contest week and get their images seen for a better chance at winning.

    I just wish I could get more people to view my stuff, sure winning would be awesome but I would appreciate just as much comments or virtual pats on the back.

    I share in the level of frustration of within a few hours my images getting pushed back to page 12 but I also understand the challenges associated with a gallery like this there is no cut and dry answer.

  • Dream CutterDream Cutter Posts: 1,224
    edited December 1969

    I used the Gallery this weekend for the first time without fully understanding how it worked - I made some new renders of the DAZ Barn, and then dragged in a bunch of farm theme slides I made earlier on the same theme and 3DU figures.,,, wow upload was so darn slick and fast I thought it grabbed only the thumbnails and bam, enter key pressed before I had a chance to review all 20 of them hit the front page. Did not expect that and pardon for the burst of farm odor that wafted across the gallery pages Sunday eve. Im just now getting around today to add fields and update descriptions.
    Maybe there should be a "feature" or "Gallery front page publishing scheduler" so if there is a limit not, users can schedule sequential front page publishing on batch uploads. The feature scheduler could publish by date or front page instance, or even by DAZ Admin rule or privilege grant (such as offering featured gallery venues as prize, bonus or extra PC benefit award perhaps?).

  • icprncssicprncss Posts: 3,694
    edited December 1969

    Carola O said:
    DAZ_jared said:
    We're trying to come up with a fair solution to the problem of people spamming (for lack of a better word) the galleries with their images. In the mean time you can change the view of the gallery to "most liked" in the past 24 hours.

    So those of us that upload on a time when not many people are online, don't deserve to get our pictures seen? Don't get me wrong.. but that "most liked" just makes me wonder why I should bother uploading at all. Since I know my pictures are simply not getting many, if any, likes.

    I do know I am not the best artist around here, but I don't believe my pictures are so bad that they dont' deserve to be seen either. Whenever I do upload a picture, most of the time it is on page 3-4 within an hour. And if it ain't seen it won't get any likes.. and therefore ain't going to be seen since it's not popular... And thana that circle is there. Frankly speaking, that is somewhat how I feel about the contest too truth to be told. It's just a game of popularity. I am not saying that is how it was planned (and please, do correct me if I am wrong about this, but that is the impression I have gotten *sorry*), but that is the impression it gives, as it is only pictures with many likes that seem to have a chance. I do admit that the pictures has deserved to win, but there are those pictures with less likes (not counting my own as I hardly think I do have a chance) that also deserve it... but don't seem to get the chance because they don't have the likes.

    Sorry that this turned into a mini rant of sort, but it's been on my mind for some time and it just saddens me truth to be told

    *hugs*
    Carola

    New uploads being pushed to the back pages within hours is one reason why there should be a daily limit on uploads.

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited December 1969

    chohole said:
    One of my pet peeves is those people who come along, upload a whole bunch of images without even a simple category on them, let only any note of software or products used and no tags. That is of course why they can upload so many images so quickly and thus hog a whole page or more in the New section, but it isn't being fair on others, who want to browse the artwork.

    to add to what you've said, i've noticed a few who have even re-uploaded the same bunch images a second time to get their work on the front page again. (i may have just given you a greater pet peeve now)

    I don't know if there's a rule covering this but if you see it I would certainly report it so that the Gallery team can review the situation.

    I hadn't noticed this, but there again I stopped visiting the Galleries so regularly, because of my other peeve. I have to admit if I did spot this happening I would make sure someone noticed.

  • Muon QuarkMuon Quark Posts: 563
    edited December 2013

    Actually, I deleted and reloaded an image because I make corrections to it in Photoshop. I even asked about this in another thread because I didn't want to be spamming the galleries. I was told it would be ok.

    If anyone knows how to "replace" an image that's already been uploaded, I'd be happy to know about it. Otherwise, I don't know how else to replace an image that's already been uploaded.

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  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited December 1969

    No problems there MQ, it was something else entirely that was being remarked on.

  • Muon QuarkMuon Quark Posts: 563
    edited December 1969

    Ok cool. Thanks.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,212
    edited December 2013

    chohole said:
    One of my pet peeves is those people who come along, upload a whole bunch of images without even a simple category on them, let only any note of software or products used and no tags. That is of course why they can upload so many images so quickly and thus hog a whole page or more in the New section, but it isn't being fair on others, who want to browse the artwork.

    Some want to browse by software, some want to browse by category, etc etc, and of course some are also interested in what was used to make the image and how it was done.


    ...I feel part of the issue is that it is tied directly to the personal galleries for each user. Again, I started setting up a couple galleries that contained the best of my previous work only to discover I was also spamming the public gallery. When I saw this, I went back and deleted everything

    My two Zlotys worth:

    The Public Gallery page should be separate from the user ones with it's own unique submission process/guidelines. The filters work OK, but I still feel that the old structure of categorisation by theme, application used, and month was both superior and simpler to view.

    ...that said,

    I'd like to see the PC Gallery come back.
    I'd like to see the Hall of Fame Gallery come back.
    I'd like to see content filters come back.
    I'd like to see a Challenges/Contest category.

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  • icprncssicprncss Posts: 3,694
    edited December 1969

    Kyoto Kid said:
    chohole said:
    One of my pet peeves is those people who come along, upload a whole bunch of images without even a simple category on them, let only any note of software or products used and no tags. That is of course why they can upload so many images so quickly and thus hog a whole page or more in the New section, but it isn't being fair on others, who want to browse the artwork.

    Some want to browse by software, some want to browse by category, etc etc, and of course some are also interested in what was used to make the image and how it was done.


    ...I feel part of the issue is that it is tied directly to the personal galleries for each user. Again, I started setting up a couple galleries that contained the best of my previous work only to discover I was also spamming the public gallery. When I saw this, I went back and deleted everything

    My two Zlotys worth:

    The Public Gallery page should be separate from the user ones with it's own unique submission process/guidelines. The filters work OK, but I still feel that the old structure of categorisation by theme, application used, and month was both superior and simpler to view.

    ...that said,

    I'd like to see the PC Gallery come back.
    I'd like to see the Hall of Fame Gallery come back.
    I'd like to see content filters come back.
    I'd like to see a Challenges/Contest category.

    So, even if I bothered with a user gallery anything I put in it would end up in the public gallery? That's ridiculous. Granted most of my work belongs to my employer or our clients so I have little I am able to post but if I had something the choice to put it in the public gallery should be mine to done by default because I add it to my user gallery.

  • RAMWolffRAMWolff Posts: 10,231
    edited December 1969

    What would be the harm in allowing for a category for nudity? Do what Google Plus does for it's galleries, you choose which "fans" to "Allow" to view it, the rest of us won't even know it's there. I think different peoples interpretation of beauty and art differs from person to person. Some find horror pictures beautiful or exciting the eye, other nudity, some fairies and others just everyday life.

    Allowing folks creative control over their galleries would be a nice thing to allow.

    PS, I heard a new forum is in the works. WHEN?

    Thanks

    DAZ_jared said:
    We're trying to come up with a fair solution to the problem of people spamming (for lack of a better word) the galleries with their images. In the mean time you can change the view of the gallery to "most liked" in the past 24 hours.
  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,212
    edited December 2013

    icprncss said:
    So, even if I bothered with a user gallery anything I put in it would end up in the public gallery? That's ridiculous. Granted most of my work belongs to my employer or our clients so I have little I am able to post but if I had something the choice to put it in the public gallery should be mine to done by default because I add it to my user gallery.


    ...that's what happened to me, and which is why I don't have anything in the gallery yet.

    Pretty much all my new work has been for other challenges and thus has been posted elsewhere in the forums. Looking through what I've done, about the only piece I can see that has merit for gallery submission is my one titled Child of War, however it is a couple years old and I believe may have been posted to the old galleries.

    Post edited by kyoto kid on
  • icprncssicprncss Posts: 3,694
    edited December 1969

    Kyoto Kid said:
    icprncss said:
    So, even if I bothered with a user gallery anything I put in it would end up in the public gallery? That's ridiculous. Granted most of my work belongs to my employer or our clients so I have little I am able to post but if I had something the choice to put it in the public gallery should be mine to done by default because I add it to my user gallery.


    ...that's what happened to me, and which is why I don't have anything in the gallery yet.

    Pretty much all my new work has been for other challenges and thus has been posted elsewhere in the forums. Looking through what I've done, about the only piece I can see that has merit for gallery submission is my one titled Child of War, however it is a couple years old and I believe may have been posted to the old galleries.

    I gave up on galleries many, many years ago. At one point I was spending more time chasing down tubers, taggers and other idiots who truly believed that if they copied your work and added a few dorky sparkles (one of the all time favorites), they had the right to call it theirs. Worst part was, you'd force one ISP to shut down a site only to have the same stolen image pop up on another site hours later. It got to the point I could recite the C and D letter in my sleep.

  • VanguardVanguard Posts: 486
    edited December 1969

    While the ability to upload multiple pictures at one time is nice it does not promote the use of categories, tags, or product links.
    To me that is then number one enabler of people being able to spam the galleries. It is just too easy.
    I don't know why this is a feature.

  • ghastlycomicghastlycomic Posts: 2,531
    edited December 1969

    I don't understand the point of the gallery personally. Tumblr is free and I control my own gallery.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,212
    edited December 1969

    ...well, on my budget (or lack thereof), right now any chance to get a GC is seen as a good thing. It's about the only way I can get things off my wishlist.

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited December 2013

    icprncss said:
    Kyoto Kid said:
    chohole said:
    One of my pet peeves is those people who come along, upload a whole bunch of images without even a simple category on them, let only any note of software or products used and no tags. That is of course why they can upload so many images so quickly and thus hog a whole page or more in the New section, but it isn't being fair on others, who want to browse the artwork.

    Some want to browse by software, some want to browse by category, etc etc, and of course some are also interested in what was used to make the image and how it was done.


    ...I feel part of the issue is that it is tied directly to the personal galleries for each user. Again, I started setting up a couple galleries that contained the best of my previous work only to discover I was also spamming the public gallery. When I saw this, I went back and deleted everything

    My two Zlotys worth:

    The Public Gallery page should be separate from the user ones with it's own unique submission process/guidelines. The filters work OK, but I still feel that the old structure of categorisation by theme, application used, and month was both superior and simpler to view.

    ...that said,

    I'd like to see the PC Gallery come back.
    I'd like to see the Hall of Fame Gallery come back.
    I'd like to see content filters come back.
    I'd like to see a Challenges/Contest category.

    So, even if I bothered with a user gallery anything I put in it would end up in the public gallery? That's ridiculous. Granted most of my work belongs to my employer or our clients so I have little I am able to post but if I had something the choice to put it in the public gallery should be mine to done by default because I add it to my user gallery.

    Umm

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  • RuphussRuphuss Posts: 2,631
    edited December 1969

    chohole said:
    One of my pet peeves is those people who come along, upload a whole bunch of images without even a simple category on them, let only any note of software or products used and no tags. That is of course why they can upload so many images so quickly and thus hog a whole page or more in the New section, but it isn't being fair on others, who want to browse the artwork.

    Some want to browse by software, some want to browse by category, etc etc, and of course some are also interested in what was used to make the image and how it was done.

    now i found this on the Gallery

    https://www.daz3d.com/gallery/#images/12775

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited December 1969

    LOL

  • SzarkSzark Posts: 10,634
    edited December 1969

    ruphuss said:
    chohole said:
    One of my pet peeves is those people who come along, upload a whole bunch of images without even a simple category on them, let only any note of software or products used and no tags. That is of course why they can upload so many images so quickly and thus hog a whole page or more in the New section, but it isn't being fair on others, who want to browse the artwork.

    Some want to browse by software, some want to browse by category, etc etc, and of course some are also interested in what was used to make the image and how it was done.

    now i found this on the Gallery

    https://www.daz3d.com/gallery/#images/12775Well they do say to scare yourself once a day, that did it. ;)

  • Miss BMiss B Posts: 3,071
    edited December 1969

    Szark said:
    ruphuss said:
    chohole said:
    One of my pet peeves is those people who come along, upload a whole bunch of images without even a simple category on them, let only any note of software or products used and no tags. That is of course why they can upload so many images so quickly and thus hog a whole page or more in the New section, but it isn't being fair on others, who want to browse the artwork.

    Some want to browse by software, some want to browse by category, etc etc, and of course some are also interested in what was used to make the image and how it was done.

    now i found this on the Gallery

    https://www.daz3d.com/gallery/#images/12775

    Well they do say to scare yourself once a day, that did it. ;)
    ~ROFLMAO~ I had to go back and look at it again, because I was just about to ask if she was Cho's cousin, but when I went back and read the entire description, I realized that was Scott's intention. :coolsmirk:
  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,212
    edited December 1969

    ...I tried setting the gallery to "private" but the images still remained in the main gallery. I also wonder why there even is a "private" setting which to me says, nobody other than the "owner" can view that gallery. Makes little sense.

    It used to be that personal and the main galleries were exclusive from each other. One could view a "personal" gallery though a member's public profile. Why cant the same be done?

  • frank0314frank0314 Posts: 14,263
    edited December 1969

    There may be software limitations. I don't know

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited December 1969

    I think you have to set the gallery to private before you add anything to it, not sure, but I think that is the way it works.

  • DAZ_JonDAZ_Jon Posts: 582
    edited December 1969

    The way it currently works is that the "global" view will show you everything you are allowed to see. So it will show you your own private stuff, but not other people (except the admins).

    We're working on a number of changes, one being changing it from public and private to a set of global, public, private as suggested, and normalizing the views so the global view is consistent for everyone instead of being generated per user.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,212
    edited December 1969

    ...so will this mean when set up a personal gallery those images will not show in the main one?

    Also what exactly does the private setting do? Does it only allow me to see the works in any of my personal galleries? Does it let someone to view them, but only from my public profile like the old site used to allow?

    A lot of this seems a bit confusing.

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited December 1969

    I don't understand the point of the gallery personally. Tumblr is free and I control my own gallery.

    An Art Community without a Gallery is like Strawberries without the cream. It's still nice but but is missing something imo

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,533
    edited December 1969

    yes can have the cream but not the dispensers
    (well actually you can if on a cow)

  • TimbalesTimbales Posts: 2,364
    edited December 1969

    they may not feature nudity, but the winners currently being flashed on the store home screen are quite suggestive

  • icprncssicprncss Posts: 3,694
    edited December 1969

    TimG said:
    they may not feature nudity, but the winners currently being flashed on the store home screen are quite suggestive

    If they got rid of the suggestive how would they sell all the skimp wear they sell? ;-)

  • TimbalesTimbales Posts: 2,364
    edited December 1969

    icprncss said:
    TimG said:
    they may not feature nudity, but the winners currently being flashed on the store home screen are quite suggestive

    If they got rid of the suggestive how would they sell all the skimp wear they sell? ;-)

    looking at the images being uploaded, I can understand why the focus is on women's items.

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