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Beeping sound from new EVGA 2080 GPU Card >>RESOLVED

cheznous2029_28ab1adedccheznous2029_28ab1adedc Posts: 144
edited July 2019 in Technical Help (nuts n bolts)

I have a new EVGA 2080 GPU card and now and then when it is rendering an IRAY scene I hear a soft beeping sound, anyone know what is causing this?

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  • SpottedKittySpottedKitty Posts: 7,232

    I've never heard of a GPU card with a beeper; are you sure it isn't coming from the beeper on the motherboard? I don't want to sound (too) alarmist, but that usually indicates Something Nasty™ either has happened or is about to. Do you have any utilities that can monitor the GPU card, in particular the GPU activity, temperature and cooling fan state?

  • RbugRbug Posts: 166

    spotted kitty is almost correct, only in that how many beeps are there? This is important as this will tell you what has gone wrong. It could be something major, but could also be something minor, (easy to fix).

    another thing you could look at is how the card is mounted in the slot, I have seen them where they are only partialy in the slot and still locked. And as far as my experience goes I also have never heard of a Vid card beeping.

    The next Question is do you have a UPS or Universal  Power Supply, "Turns out the problem was that my UPS was not throughputting my mains power, but dropping it so that there was less power available for the PSU. I switched to direct mains connection and the problem is now resolved."

  • cheznous2029_28ab1adedccheznous2029_28ab1adedc Posts: 144

    I didn't think so but it only started after I installed a new EVGA 2080 card.  I am using the EVGA Precision program to overclock the card and monitor the temp, the temp has never gone above 72 C.  When I put the card in I also installed a higer rated Power supply as I am running 2 GPUs one 2080 and one 1070.  As for how many beeps it is usually 1 long beep pause then another long beep.  In the past I have put the GPU on Temp priority and if I decress the temp preset, usually 72C it stops.

  • ChatjdChatjd Posts: 152

    Beep codes usually depend on your motherboard manufacturer (BIOS version) and/or system manufacturer (if Dell, etc. and not a custom built).  If you have the manufacturer information, you can usually do a google on the specific manufacturer and find out what it means.  Long beeps usually tend to be reserved for memory or video, so you might check to make sure your memory modules and video card are seated properly, remove and reseat them as a precaution.  Though it also may be power.  When your card is at load, it may be pulling just enough power that your powersupply starts having issues.  You also might consider updating your BIOS if you haven't since you installed the video card as sometimes that can fix some of the automated power and temperature settings within the BIOS to better support the card and processor.

  • JamesJABJamesJAB Posts: 1,760

    Try pulling the gtx 1070 out and see if it still beeps.

    At nvidia stock clock speeds your RTX 2080 uses 215W and the GTX 1070 uses 150W

    Manufacturers tend to sell their GPUs as factory overclocked so you could be looking at usage numbers as high as 300W and 250W respectively for those cards.  Then add even a little more power draw for your personal OC settings.

    You could easily be looking at 600W of power draw just from your two GPUs (CPU could be adding another 100W or so if it's being used in the render, then add the rest of the system, maybe 50-100W depending on RAM, Motherboard, and HDDs)

    Overclocking your GPUs could easily be the difference between the computer trying to draw 500W vs 800W while rendering

  • SpottedKittySpottedKitty Posts: 7,232

    Following on from JamesJAB above (if this turns out to be anything to do with the problem) it's never a good idea to take your PSU too close to its rated limit. Always leave a bit of spare wattage capacity over and above the maximum possible draw of all your computer's components running full blast all at once. The last time I read posts about this it was suggested to leave something like a 10-25% margin, prefrably closer to the 25.

  • SixDsSixDs Posts: 2,384

    This is completely off the wall, but are you quite certain that what you are hearing is coming from the video card and not some other component? If so, then is it possible that the periodic beep you are hearing is in fact a squeak? That might explain why throttling the card eliminates the noise. The sound that you are hearing might be noise from one or more of the cooling fans on the card as the speed increases. Not a good thing, but fan problems are not unheard of even with expensive cards. That is purely a shot in the dark on my part, of course.

  • ArtAngelArtAngel Posts: 1,797

    When the beeping happened to my (while rendering) it was after I added a 2nd graphics card tp PC#2. Because of the second card, the PC required an ugraded internal power supply from but I forgot to upgrade my external UPS unit. Only happened while rendering, never while in photoshop or other programs including DAZ until I rendered. Once I upgraded to a 1500 external VA I was good to go. On system PC#1 it took a Cyberpower 2200va UPS to solve same issue. It may be power related (internal or external) which utilizes more resources and sucks power when rendering.

     

    cheznous2029_28ab1adedc said:

    I have a new EVGA 2080 GPU card and now and then when it is rendering an IRAY scene I hear a soft beeping sound, anyone know what is causing this?

  • cheznous2029_28ab1adedccheznous2029_28ab1adedc Posts: 144
    edited June 2019

    From the comments here, I have to think that it is my power supply.  When I bought the 2080 GTX card, I upgraded my power supply but I only installed a 750 watt unit.  I think that when I am rendering with both cards and I get that beep, I decreas my power target for the card from around 80% to 65% and that stops the beeping.  I'm essentialy decreasing the poser draw on the power supply.  Looks like next time I'll get an 800 watt unit.

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  • cheznous2029_28ab1adedccheznous2029_28ab1adedc Posts: 144
    SixDs said:

    This is completely off the wall, but are you quite certain that what you are hearing is coming from the video card and not some other component? If so, then is it possible that the periodic beep you are hearing is in fact a squeak? That might explain why throttling the card eliminates the noise. The sound that you are hearing might be noise from one or more of the cooling fans on the card as the speed increases. Not a good thing, but fan problems are not unheard of even with expensive cards. That is purely a shot in the dark on my part, of course.

    No, I don't think the beeping is from the graphics card, from everything I've read there is no sound warning on the individual GPU's.. I think the beep is from the 750 watt ps.

  • cheznous2029_28ab1adedccheznous2029_28ab1adedc Posts: 144
    edited June 2019
    ArtAngel said:

    When the beeping happened to my (while rendering) it was after I added a 2nd graphics card tp PC#2. Because of the second card, the PC required an ugraded internal power supply from but I forgot to upgrade my external UPS unit. Only happened while rendering, never while in photoshop or other programs including DAZ until I rendered. Once I upgraded to a 1500 external VA I was good to go. On system PC#1 it took a Cyberpower 2200va UPS to solve same issue. It may be power related (internal or external) which utilizes more resources and sucks power when rendering.

     

    cheznous2029_28ab1adedc said:

    I have a new EVGA 2080 GPU card and now and then when it is rendering an IRAY scene I hear a soft beeping sound, anyone know what is causing this?

    I had this problem before I got myself a UPS.  So I don't think that is the problem.  Again I think my problem is not enough power supply!

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  • cheznous2029_28ab1adedccheznous2029_28ab1adedc Posts: 144
    edited June 2019
    Chatjd said:

    Beep codes usually depend on your motherboard manufacturer (BIOS version) and/or system manufacturer (if Dell, etc. and not a custom built).  If you have the manufacturer information, you can usually do a google on the specific manufacturer and find out what it means.  Long beeps usually tend to be reserved for memory or video, so you might check to make sure your memory modules and video card are seated properly, remove and reseat them as a precaution.  Though it also may be power.  When your card is at load, it may be pulling just enough power that your powersupply starts having issues.  You also might consider updating your BIOS if you haven't since you installed the video card as sometimes that can fix some of the automated power and temperature settings within the BIOS to better support the card and processor.

    I don't have the guts to try to update the bios, the motherboard isn't very new, it's a MSI Z97 which I went with so I didn't have to lay out cash for a new I7 CPU, as I already had one and this board had the right CPU slot.  I got the motherboard about 3-4 years ago.

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  • ArtAngelArtAngel Posts: 1,797
    edited July 2019
    cheznous2029_28ab1adedc said:
    ArtAngel said:

    When the beeping happened to my (while rendering) it was after I added a 2nd graphics card tp PC#2. Because of the second card, the PC required an ugraded internal power supply from but I forgot to upgrade my external UPS unit. Only happened while rendering, never while in photoshop or other programs including DAZ until I rendered. Once I upgraded to a 1500 external VA I was good to go. On system PC#1 it took a Cyberpower 2200va UPS to solve same issue. It may be power related (internal or external) which utilizes more resources and sucks power when rendering.

     

    cheznous2029_28ab1adedc said:

    I have a new EVGA 2080 GPU card and now and then when it is rendering an IRAY scene I hear a soft beeping sound, anyone know what is causing this?

    I had this problem before I got myself a UPS.  So I don't think that is the problem.  Again I think my problem is not enough power supply!

    That is what I was addressing. After upgrading a graphics card or adding a graphics card, you have to upgrade internal power supplies and if you have an external power supply for power outages upgrade that as well.

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  • ebergerlyebergerly Posts: 3,255
    edited July 2019

    FWIW, here are my suggestions:

    1. Rather than speculate, why not slide the side panel off your computer and listen to see what's beeping? If it's the MSI motherboard, check the MSI documentation to find what the beep codes mean. If it's the power supply, check the power supply documents to see what the beep codes mean (if it even has beep codes).
    2. Don't believe the ever popular paranoia about overloading power supplies. You have a 2080 and a 1070. I have a 1080ti and a 1070, plus a 65w TDP 8 core Ryzen CPU. My TOTAL power draw from the wall while rendering in Iray is barely 400 watts. I actually measure it with a wattmeter. And since this includes power lost in the power supply (inefficiency), that actual system draw is closer to only 350 watts. I suspect your system is about the same or less, unless you're REALLY overclocking something (which I personally think is a big mistake and provides little benefit).  I also have a 750 watt power supply. It's WAY more than I need. If you're really concerned about power draw and want the facts rather than wild speculation, spend $20 on a Belkin (or other) wattmeter. It tells you exactly what your power draw for the entire system is. BTW, as I've shown with test data here, Iray doesn't put nearly the power draw in your GPU as the specs might suggest. My 1080ti only draws about 180 watts during an Iray render, not the 250 watts the specs say. And the 1070 only draws around 90 watts, not 150. And you will probably never need to simply add the CPU power requirement to the GPU power requrement since they probably won't be running at full load simultaneously. And if you're using some other software that might change any of this, then again, I suggest you actually measure power usage first before making a decision.  
    3. If the power supply does have warning beeps (which would be surprising IMO), and that's what's beeping, you may have a non-overloading-related problem. What seems more likely is that the beeps are motherboard beeps and maybe there's a power supply problem causing low voltage to the motherboard. But again, you'll never know unless you listen to see what exactly is beeping.  
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  • cheznous2029_28ab1adedccheznous2029_28ab1adedc Posts: 144
    edited July 2019
    cheznous2029_28ab1adedc said:
    Chatjd said:

                     

    ebergerly said:

    FWIW, here are my suggestions:

    1. Rather than speculate, why not slide the side panel off your computer and listen to see what's beeping? If it's the MSI motherboard, check the MSI documentation to find what the beep codes mean. If it's the power supply, check the power supply documents to see what the beep codes mean (if it even has beep codes).
    2. Don't believe the ever popular paranoia about overloading power supplies. You have a 2080 and a 1070. I have a 1080ti and a 1070, plus a 65w TDP 8 core Ryzen CPU. My TOTAL power draw from the wall while rendering in Iray is barely 400 watts. I actually measure it with a wattmeter. And since this includes power lost in the power supply (inefficiency), that actual system draw is closer to only 350 watts. I suspect your system is about the same or less, unless you're REALLY overclocking something (which I personally think is a big mistake and provides little benefit).  I also have a 750 watt power supply. It's WAY more than I need. If you're really concerned about power draw and want the facts rather than wild speculation, spend $20 on a Belkin (or other) wattmeter. It tells you exactly what your power draw for the entire system is. BTW, as I've shown with test data here, Iray doesn't put nearly the power draw in your GPU as the specs might suggest. My 1080ti only draws about 180 watts during an Iray render, not the 250 watts the specs say. And the 1070 only draws around 90 watts, not 150. And you will probably never need to simply add the CPU power requirement to the GPU power requrement since they probably won't be running at full load simultaneously. And if you're using some other software that might change any of this, then again, I suggest you actually measure power usage first before making a decision.  
    3. If the power supply does have warning beeps (which would be surprising IMO), and that's what's beeping, you may have a non-overloading-related problem. What seems more likely is that the beeps are motherboard beeps and maybe there's a power supply problem causing low voltage to the motherboard. But again, you'll never know unless you listen to see what exactly is beeping.  

    I think it may be time to take it to a technician at the local computer store.  I have the side panel off but I can't locate the beeping to determine if it is motherboard or power supply.  However I think you suggestions are good ones.

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  • ebergerlyebergerly Posts: 3,255

    Sounds like a good idea. And since the 2080 is new, don't discount the possibility that maybe it's a bad GPU, and causing some PCI issues that the motherboard is beeping about. 

    BTW, there is a little buzzer thingy on the motherboard, and if you check the manual it might show its location. That might help you see if that's where the sound is coming from.

  • ebergerlyebergerly Posts: 3,255
    edited July 2019

    And BTW, here's a foto of the buzzer on my old HP motherboard, right in the corner near the SATA connectors. They were nice enough to even mark "BUZZER" on it... laugh

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  • cheznous2029_28ab1adedccheznous2029_28ab1adedc Posts: 144

    This problem is resolved - The beeping was coming from my UPS not the computer! I had gone cheep and was using only a 330W UPS, Aparently my two GPU maxed it out!

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