Problems installing Bryce 7 Pro continued...

edited December 1969 in New Users

chohole said:
Well if you run into any problems, then just shout. We are all here to help, if you need more help.

I seem to have installed the files Bryce 7.1.0.109 and BryceContent 7.0.0.21 successfully (?)... I put the second one into a "MyTempFolder" within the main program folder. However, in opening the BryceProContent 7.0.0.19 into that same temp folder, it does not seem to like that because it's saying Bryce cannot be found at that location. Tried to unpack it into the default Content folder but that isn't working either. I am not even sure the BryceContent 7.0.0.21 is in the right location. Still confused!!! Why can't I just put both the content unpacks into the Temp Folder I created, then move them around after that? I also see files for "uninstalling" or "removing" content files, what about those? Seems I should be able to just delete my mistakes and begin again...?

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  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited December 1969

    Bryce is very picky where it's content is installed, It needs to be inside the folders it needs.

    I have copied this from Horo's PDF to point out exactly where the files should be.

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  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited December 1969

    This is what one of the folders should l;ook like inside

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  • edited December 2013

    Thanks...So would it be OK to unpack the content folders into my temp folder and then copy the subfolders into their correct locations? The first content unpack went fine, I put that in the temp folder; it's that second one 7.0.0.19 that is complaining...

    And yes, Data, Plugins and Presets do exist in my main Bryce folder...

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  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited December 2013

    That's strange because that is only the little one.

    maybe, before you move the stuff from the big content folder, use the ,exe on the little one and run it directly to your Bryce installation.

    I am not keen on doing that I have to admit.

    I will try running my copy to a temp folder. Hang on a bit and I will get back to you

    OK Edited

    OK It did query and say couldn't find blah blah blah did I want to continue anyway and I said yes, it the asked asked if I wanted to replace the already installed content and I said no, it then ran.

    So ignore the warnings and just keep going, but do remember to tell it not to replace what is already there.

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  • edited December 1969

    chohole said:

    OK It did query and say couldn't find blah blah blah did I want to continue anyway and I said yes, it the asked asked if I wanted to replace the already installed content and I said no, it then ran.

    So ignore the warnings and just keep going, but do remember to tell it not to replace what is already there.

    Yes that was the same problem I had, 'couldn't find Bryce' or some nonsense like that... Mmkay, thanks, I will get back in there and see what I can do :) Will LYK if I succeed or fail...

  • edited December 1969

    Hi,

    I've just purchased Bryce 7 which downloaded no problem to my window 7 laptop. I also purchased Bryce 7 Content and abstract wallpaper - for my sanity sake... can someone please tell me how to intsal these plugins. Abstract wallpaper does not want download and I'm totally losing my patience with it now.

    Can anyone help? thanks.

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited December 1969

    How are you trying to download it? Using DIM or Manually ?

    Why do you say it won't download. Did you try a download, and it failed. If this is the case do make sure that you clear the cache before you try again, as a corrupted or incomplete download in your browser cache will cause subsequent attempts to fail at the same point.

    Sometimes trying with a different browser can help. If you normally use IE, then try FireFox or Chrome.

  • edited December 1969

    I've tried it with DIM. I've tried manually downloading - where does this content go? Windows has allocated it in plugins folder - the bundle content still does not show up in Bryce 7. I've just managed to manually download Abstract and about to try and instal it as DIM is just throwing obstacles. Is this meant to be user friendly?

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited December 2013

    I don't know why it is being sent to a plug in folder, it should be installed into the presets folder, in the relevant preset folders within the main preset folder.

    Horo's PDF will help guide you through a manual install

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  • edited December 1969

    Abstract file with Bryce 7 & one called Manifest - Windows doesn't know what to do with it? could someone kindly elaborate before I request a refund on the Bryce product and purchase Vue. many Thanks

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited December 2013

    Abstract file with Bryce 7 & one called Manifest - Windows doesn't know what to do with it? could someone kindly elaborate before I request a refund on the Bryce product and purchase Vue. many Thanks

    If you are installing manually then you can ignore the manifest, as that is used by the DIM to keep track of what is installed using DIM.

    If you read through the other posts in this thread you will find guidance for a manual install.

    If you are installing manually I do suggest that you first unzip the files to temp folder and then move them form there, according to the directions in the PDF by Horo.

    http://www.horo.ch/docs/mine/pdf/BryceContent_v4.pdf

    EDITED to Add

    When you unzip this product you should find Material presets, which go in the Material preset library and Sky presets, which go in the Sky preset library.

    You will also find a number of Bryce scene files, which you need to leave in the folder you unzipped to, and then just open the scenes once you have Bryce booted up. These scene files also have an associated .bmp, which shows you how they look

    You also should find some video tutorials.

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  • edited December 1969

    I really don't mean to sound ungrateful - but, I've never purchased software that has this much agro attached to downloading & installing. I think I need to send an invoice for my time, let alone paying for the privilege of this nonsense!

    I'm going to request a full refund - I haven't got time to read through chat boards when it should all be clear path in the first place.

    Thanks for trying to help!

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited December 2013

    I am sorry that you feel that way.

    Bryce is really fun to use, and an extremely powerful program, especially considering it's current cost.

    The product that you have chosen to buy is rather an unusual one for a beginner to start with, but do please check my previous post, to see where everything should be. It contains a number of tutorials, and also both the PAs who produced this product post here very regularly, and will be only too happy to coach you through any problems you may have.

    Normally installing content into Bryce is quite a simple procedure, and I am not at all certain why you have been experiencing such difficulties.

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  • TrishTrish Posts: 2,625
    edited December 2013

    Please don't give up on Bryce it is really a wonderful program.... http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/artzone/pub/software/bryce/start at least download the pdf and see what all it can do....and chohole is right over in the Bryce forum we will do all we can to help you...Trish

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  • edited December 1969

    I have no doubt that when you can get it to install - it's a good product. I watched the tutorials before purchasing, a users / customers time should be spent using the product not getting angry and frustrated with what should be, like other products you purchase, a user friendly simplistic download process.

    Again, thanks for your help.

  • mecomeco Posts: 0
    edited January 2014

    Add me to the bewildered! Today, I purchased B7 and have been chasing my tail for hours! First off, the email I got directly after the sale with a link for MY DOWNLOAD pointed to a different product. After unscrambling that, the B7 download was completely oingo-boingo. It asked to remove a previous installation (how can that be?). After trying too many times, I just quit. I'm not a geek, I just want to put my surface modeled boats, created in another program, in a better environment than the native program can do. Frankly, if this is a typical situation, I can't imagine them having a business at all. I can't quibble about the price point, however, if I paid only 50 cents I would still expect it to work without calling on one of my few MENSA friends for help.

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  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,583
    edited December 1969

    The installer for the application itself can be downloaded from your Product Library under “Bryce 7” here: http://www.daz3d.com/downloader/customer/files/#prod_11035

    I recommend NOT installing under Program Files/Program Files (x86), as newer Windows versions protect those folder. Mine is installed in C:\DAZ 3D\Bryce 7

    Once you have Bryce installed, add the path to it (e.g. C:\DAZ 3D\Bryce 7) in DIM in Settings > Applications, then DIM will be able to install Bryce content to the correct location.

  • mecomeco Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Thank you, I will give a try. The link you supplied was the same as what I used.

    I'm WINXP.

    As stated, I'm not in any way geek. Programs are merely a drill motor to me; I expect them to drive a screw when asked, and not be asked back. Why is this installation process not more automatic for us less capable sorts? Why, if it is so critical, does not Bryce force the issue, like, you MUST (or we recommend) install > here?

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited December 1969

    Ignore the installer when it asks if you want to uninstall a previous version. If you agree it will overwrite any content that you have already installed.

    I copy a quote from the Bryce Forum

    Horo said:
    This document http://www.horo.ch/docs/mine/pdf/BryceContent_v4.pdf should help you where and how to install Bryce.
  • KharmaKharma Posts: 3,214
    edited December 1969

    thanks for this thread, I need to install bryce7 pro again, I removed all my programs a while back and am starting from scratch with both Bryce and Carrara. So the best way to install Bryce is to put it in a new folder on c:/DAZ3D/Bryce and then all content goes into that same folder whether you install manually or use DIM? I use DIM and wondered if it will now install all Bryce products and to that designated folder? I really want to get back to learning Bryce but have avoided installing it because last time I seem to have files where I didn't want them...I want to have all my files in the same directory, including stuff I create myself, whereas prior I think it saved my stuff to the documents folder. So all that being said if you can tell me a clear concise way to install I will be back on the Bryce learning curve soon!

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited January 2014

    Do read Horo's PDF, it is the definitive explanation of how to install Bryce, what the different files are for and where they should go.

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  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,583
    edited December 1969

    Kharma said:
    thanks for this thread, I need to install bryce7 pro again, I removed all my programs a while back and am starting from scratch with both Bryce and Carrara. So the best way to install Bryce is to put it in a new folder on c:/DAZ3D/Bryce and then all content goes into that same folder whether you install manually or use DIM? I use DIM and wondered if it will now install all Bryce products and to that designated folder? I really want to get back to learning Bryce but have avoided installing it because last time I seem to have files where I didn't want them...I want to have all my files in the same directory, including stuff I create myself, whereas prior I think it saved my stuff to the documents folder. So all that being said if you can tell me a clear concise way to install I will be back on the Bryce learning curve soon!

    If you make sure to add the Bryce path to DIM's Settings > Applications then it will install Bryce content to the correct location.

  • KharmaKharma Posts: 3,214
    edited December 1969

    Got the PDF and will put in the path in DIM and hope all goes well so I can get back into learning Bryce. DIM is able to install all Bryce products?

  • frank0314frank0314 Posts: 14,073
    edited December 1969

    Yes. It can install all bryce products.

  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,583
    edited December 1969

    Kharma said:
    Got the PDF and will put in the path in DIM and hope all goes well so I can get back into learning Bryce. DIM is able to install all Bryce products?

    It's worked for all the ones I have.

  • SoulUnitSoulUnit Posts: 112
    edited January 2014

    I may be way off but just a note in case for the inexperienced (or those in a rush) ,

    I bought Bryce 7 Pro today and got a little turned around as the link sends you to the Bryce 7 Pro page, I downloaded from here and saw only the

    BryceLightning_7.1.0.109_Win.exe and BryceProContent_7.0.0.19_Win.exe

    Being in the middle of several downloads I thought this was the whole enchilada so I downloaded and tried to install overlooking the fact that this was not the actual Bryce program this was only the content files. When I ran the exe it wanted to know where the Bryce folder was. Puzzled I came here looking for the answer and then went back to the download page and realized I had only clicked on the files for Bryce 7 Pro and did not pay any attention to the picture of Bryce 7 (not pro) underneath. After clicking this I found that this (Bryce 7) is the actual install program. Once you install this it will place the program in the correct file and then you add the content for Bryce 7 Pro.

    In my haste I thought why would I be interested in clicking on the older Bryce 7 when I just bought Bryce 7 Pro so I overlooked it. Feel pretty silly but they could do more than just show a picture of the Bryce 7 They should directly tell you to click on the picture to download the actual program.

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  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited December 1969

    Originally there was Bryce 7 and Bryce 7 pro. So if you just bought Br7 then you only got those files, and then if you bought or upgraded to Pro, you got the Pro files to add to it. The Product library still shows it this way, even though at the moment there is only the one version, which is the pro version.

    The actual program files were identical for both Bryce 7 and Bryce 7 pro, it is only the serial number which differed to unlock the Pro features in Bryce 7, plus then you also got the large Pro content bundle as well. This is why it is shown like this.

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