DS Beta Slows to Crawl when trying to use Fit Control for G8F

I'm using DS Beta 4.11.0.383 and when I try to use the Fit Conttrol for G8F dresses the program slows to a crawl!  I don't know if the Fit Control for G8M is doing this.  Anyone else experiencing this or know of a fix?

Post edited by cheznous2029_28ab1adedc on

Comments

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,775

    Slows when? In the viewport when you are moving/posing the character? When you render? If it is a viewport issue, check smoothing settings on everything and make sure the Interactive Update is Off (Parameters pane).

  • barbult said:

    Slows when? In the viewport when you are moving/posing the character? When you render? If it is a viewport issue, check smoothing settings on everything and make sure the Interactive Update is Off (Parameters pane).

    When I try to repose the character, the little spinning thing comes up and I can't do anything more until it goes away!

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,775
    barbult said:

    Slows when? In the viewport when you are moving/posing the character? When you render? If it is a viewport issue, check smoothing settings on everything and make sure the Interactive Update is Off (Parameters pane).

    When I try to repose the character, the little spinning thing comes up and I can't do anything more until it goes away!

    Are you in Textured Shaded mode (not Iray Preview)?

    Did you check all your scene objects for Interactive Update in the smoothing. That is a performance killer, if that is turned On on any scene item.

    In your Daz Studio Preferences, have you selected Best for your Display Optimization? If it isn't on Best, you may have troubles.

  • edited July 2019
    barbult said:
    barbult said:

    Slows when? In the viewport when you are moving/posing the character? When you render? If it is a viewport issue, check smoothing settings on everything and make sure the Interactive Update is Off (Parameters pane).

    When I try to repose the character, the little spinning thing comes up and I can't do anything more until it goes away!

    Are you in Textured Shaded mode (not Iray Preview)?

    Did you check all your scene objects for Interactive Update in the smoothing. That is a performance killer, if that is turned On on any scene item.

    In your Daz Studio Preferences, have you selected Best for your Display Optimization? If it isn't on Best, you may have troubles.

    I'm in Textured Shaded mode.

    DS Display Optimizastion is set to Best.

    Don' know where the setting Interactive Update is??

    Post edited by cheznous2029_28ab1adedc on
  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,775
    edited July 2019
    barbult said:
    barbult said:

    Slows when? In the viewport when you are moving/posing the character? When you render? If it is a viewport issue, check smoothing settings on everything and make sure the Interactive Update is Off (Parameters pane).

    When I try to repose the character, the little spinning thing comes up and I can't do anything more until it goes away!

    Are you in Textured Shaded mode (not Iray Preview)?

    Did you check all your scene objects for Interactive Update in the smoothing. That is a performance killer, if that is turned On on any scene item.

    In your Daz Studio Preferences, have you selected Best for your Display Optimization? If it isn't on Best, you may have troubles.

    I'm in Textured Shaded mode.

    DS Display Optimizastion is set to Best.

    Don' know where the setting Interactive Update is??

    Interactive Update is an On/Off setting in the Parameters pane in the General/Mesh Smoothing area. It can be set to On or Off for each individual item in the Scene pane that has smoothing enabled. You have to check every item in your scene.

     

    Interactive Update.JPG
    584 x 399 - 52K
    Post edited by barbult on
  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,672
    edited July 2019

    I suggest applying fit control, saving the file and loading it again. Fit control injects a ton of morphs and it it makes the product unwieldy.  I’ve found saving and opening it again saves time

    Post edited by Serene Night on
  • Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,096
    edited July 2019

    I'm using DS Beta 4.11.0.383 and when I try to use the Fit Conttrol for G8F dresses the program slows to a crawl!  I don't know if the Fit Control for G8M is doing this.  Anyone else experiencing this or know of a fix?

    What item is this and other items are on your figure? We are aware of the issue but cannot pin point the problem since this only happens with certain items. So the more info the better.

    Post edited by Zev0 on
  • barbult said:
    barbult said:

    Slows when? In the viewport when you are moving/posing the character? When you render? If it is a viewport issue, check smoothing settings on everything and make sure the Interactive Update is Off (Parameters pane).

    When I try to repose the character, the little spinning thing comes up and I can't do anything more until it goes away!

    Are you in Textured Shaded mode (not Iray Preview)?

    Did you check all your scene objects for Interactive Update in the smoothing. That is a performance killer, if that is turned On on any scene item.

    In your Daz Studio Preferences, have you selected Best for your Display Optimization? If it isn't on Best, you may have troubles.

    I{m in Textured Shaded mode.

    DS Display Optimizastion is set to Best.

    Don{t know where the setting Interactive Update is??

     

    barbult said:
    barbult said:

    Slows when? In the viewport when you are moving/posing the character? When you render? If it is a viewport issue, check smoothing settings on everything and make sure the Interactive Update is Off (Parameters pane).

    When I try to repose the character, the little spinning thing comes up and I can't do anything more until it goes away!

    Are you in Textured Shaded mode (not Iray Preview)?

    Did you check all your scene objects for Interactive Update in the smoothing. That is a performance killer, if that is turned On on any scene item.

    In your Daz Studio Preferences, have you selected Best for your Display Optimization? If it isn't on Best, you may have troubles.

     

    barbult said:
    barbult said:
    barbult said:

    Slows when? In the viewport when you are moving/posing the character? When you render? If it is a viewport issue, check smoothing settings on everything and make sure the Interactive Update is Off (Parameters pane).

    When I try to repose the character, the little spinning thing comes up and I can't do anything more until it goes away!

    Are you in Textured Shaded mode (not Iray Preview)?

    Did you check all your scene objects for Interactive Update in the smoothing. That is a performance killer, if that is turned On on any scene item.

    In your Daz Studio Preferences, have you selected Best for your Display Optimization? If it isn't on Best, you may have troubles.

    I'm in Textured Shaded mode.

    DS Display Optimizastion is set to Best.

    Don' know where the setting Interactive Update is??

    Interactive Update is an On/Off setting in the Parameters pane in the General/Mesh Smoothing area. It can be set to On or Off for each individual item in the Scene pane that has smoothing enabled. You have to check every item in your scene.

     

    Interactive Update on all items that have this option is set to off!

  • Zev0 said:

    I'm using DS Beta 4.11.0.383 and when I try to use the Fit Conttrol for G8F dresses the program slows to a crawl!  I don't know if the Fit Control for G8M is doing this.  Anyone else experiencing this or know of a fix?

    What item is this and other items are on your figure? We are aware of the issue but cannot pin point the problem since this only happens with certain items. So the more info the better.

    This happens with any clothing item on my G8 Figure, right now the G8F figure has

    Bettie Heels G8F shoes
    ShirtG8 top
    ShortsG8 shorts
    Basic Lingerie Panty
    Looking Back Earrings
    Caleela Hair Genesis 8 Female

    but it also happens when she is wearing the dForce Delicious dress.  Also it occurs with other G8 characters so it is not character specific.

  • This problem happens with me too, both male and female fit control. I have tried most things thinking it was just certain clothing items that had problems but i found that wasnt the case. When the message comes up saying morphs fitted it then slows down. I wait for the spinning circle to finish. I then immediately go to the save file which also takes time to register (up to a minute).  I click save file and wait another minute. It saves. I then open it and everything runs fine.

    It behaves as if Daz has run out of all memory as soon as the morphs are added.

    My rig is ok all the other times. (Win 10, 16gb, 1080ti, ssd etc etc)

  • Ok, so I see in this thread https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/317361/fit-control-add-on-commercial#latest that the slow down is mentioned. Possibly some hair props could be the issue. 

  • This problem happens with me too, both male and female fit control. I have tried most things thinking it was just certain clothing items that had problems but i found that wasnt the case. When the message comes up saying morphs fitted it then slows down. I wait for the spinning circle to finish. I then immediately go to the save file which also takes time to register (up to a minute).  I click save file and wait another minute. It saves. I then open it and everything runs fine.

    It behaves as if Daz has run out of all memory as soon as the morphs are added.

    My rig is ok all the other times. (Win 10, 16gb, 1080ti, ssd etc etc)

    I finally tried saving the scene after applying the fit control morphs and I am surprised that after reloading the scene the fit control morphs work and the slow down problem is no longer there!  However, this control should not require a save and reload.  I produce comics with DS and if I had to do this for every scene where I needed the fit control morphs, it would slow my work considerably.

  • Ok, so I see in this thread https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/317361/fit-control-add-on-commercial#latest that the slow down is mentioned. Possibly some hair props could be the issue. 

    I wonder if they have fixed this problem?

  • Maybe another thing ... 3rd party gens could cause a problem. Another way around it is load an additional default G8F or G8M - load the item of clothing onto them, use fit control - it should happen almost immediately - then  unparent that piece of clothing and parent onto the figure you  want the clothing to be on. You can either delete the default figure or hide them in render. 

  • I just ran across extreme slowdowns as well, and it seems to be anything Dforce that does it for me. I turned off interactive update for Dforce clothing, and it returned to a more normal state.

  • JD_MortalJD_Mortal Posts: 760
    edited September 2019

    Ok, so I see in this thread https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/317361/fit-control-add-on-commercial#latest that the slow down is mentioned. Possibly some hair props could be the issue. 

    I wonder if they have fixed this problem?

    Try updating your Daz version and the models... The Beta version is on version 4.12-Beta and the non-beta version is 4.11, which makes the 4.11-Beta beyond any actual support. You won't know if it is fixed, unless you try it.

    That should always be the first thing you check, when you run into an issue with anything. "Am I on the most current version of the program and models." Because, at this point, if the situation has already been addressed, you are just stirring-up issues that may no longer exist. Because you are using an outdated beta version, and possibly outdated models.

    When using Beta-versions, you should always try to keep-up with the latest version and non-beta version. Since they are in Beta, they are expected to have all sorts of potential odd operations. When it moves out of beta, becoming a non-beta 4.11, as it is now, they expect you to stop using that old beta-version, as it is older than the "most stable non-beta". They also expect "Support tickets", and "Bug reports", not forum posts about issues (of only current supported versions). You will only find company here, of people with the same issues, who are also using outdated beta-versions.

    The fit-control is, I assume, not intended to be a "use when done", type of control. I would expect that after "customizing an outfit/object", they expect you to "save your results", so you can later load them up and use them, now that they are "fit", and not in "test-fitting". (Where it is constantly trying to update the "test-fit", which is not yet "perminant", as a save-file would rightfully end that process of testing the fit.) Though, it does sound like something is absolutely buggy in that specific action, in that specific version, for that specific model-base. Worthy of a bug-report, if that were still a version that they supported.

    You do realize that they are on 4.11 non-beta, so that nullifies all 4.11 beta builds. Is there a reason that you are not using the non-beta 4.11 version, and not using the updated 4.12-Beta version?

    4.11-Beta is a (test version of 4.11) Dropped when they release it as 4.11 non-beta. Only used when 4.10 non-beta is the "last stable public release".

    4.12-Beta is a (test version of 4.12) Dropped when they release it as 4.12 non-beta. {Where we are today, as they have not yet released 4.12 as non-beta.} Only used when 4.11 non-beta is the "last stable public release".

    The exception to those general rules, is when a newer version, for some reason, does not function for you, due to an unresolved issue in the release. (Which would drive you to use an older, unsupported version. Which is why I asked, as that may be your issue, and I was curious about your lack of being up-to-date. Since 4.11 non-beta, has been out for quite a while now.)

    Post edited by JD_Mortal on
  • This problem is still there and I have the latest non beta version, 4.12 installed.  It definitly has to do with what hair you have on a figure....

  • sarge74sarge74 Posts: 121

    I am running into this as well. Would very much like to know how to make this stop. The slow down is very frustrating.

Sign In or Register to comment.