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there is a problem : it seems we are not using rt coresbecause if you compare the speed of the dual 2080ti withIray RTX 2019.1.3 you get 14.5 it/s and with 1.3 Iray 2018.1.3 you get 11.8 it/s that only a 22% speedup so we are far from the 10x speedup rt cores are supposed to give above cuda cores. has someone an explanation for that ? thanks
System Configuration
System/Motherboard: hp omen 15 laptop
CPU: core i5-9300h
GPU: rtx2060
System Memory: 2x8gb
OS Drive: samsung 850 256gb
Asset Drive: same
Operating System: win10 home 1809
Nvidia Drivers Version: studio driver 431.86
Daz Studio Version: 4.12.086
Optix Prime Acceleration: on
Benchmark Results : 3.5 iterations per second CUDA device 0 (GeForce RTX 2060): 1800 iterations, 0.459s init, 513.598s render
fyi "optix prime acceleration" checked or not checked makes no difference on my rtx2060 laptop ( in the log i have "IRAY rend warn : The 'iray_optix_prime' scene option is no longer supported.")
Here's how it works: RTCores ONLY speed up raytracing - which is but a single part of the overall 3D rendering process. Each indivudal scene will have its own ratio of raytracing to non-raytracing workload to it based primarily on geometry complexity, density and lighting effects used in that scene. And since the benchmarking scene around which this thread is based happens to be on the lighter side where raytracing workload is concerned (small memory footprint scenes are kind of that by definition) the speedup observed is on the lower end of the expected range. If you want to see examples where the speedup from RTCore utilization is much more apparent, see this other benchmarking thread and particularly this post where the largest speedup observed (by me, actually) currently stands at 11.87x or 1,187%.
Fyi there's a new version of Iray out.
System Configuration
System/Motherboard: Gigabyte Z370 Aorus Gaming 7
CPU: Intel i7-8700K @ stock (MCE enabled, watercooled)
GPU: Nvidia Titan RTX @ stock (watercooled)
System Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 32GB @ 32000Mhz
OS Drive: Samsung Pro 970 NVME SSD 512GB
Asset Drive: Sandisk Extreme Portable SSD 1TB
Operating System: Windows 10 1903
Nvidia Drivers Version: 436.48
Daz Studio Version: 4.12.1.016 Beta x64
Benchmark Results - Titan RTX (TCC mode)
Total Rendering Time: 3 minutes 48.31 seconds
CUDA device 0 (TITAN RTX): 1800 iterations, 2.117s init, 223.662s render
Iteration Rate: (1800 / 223.662) = 8.048 iterations per second
Loading Time: ((180 + 48.31) - 223.662) = 228.31 - 223.662 = 4.648 seconds
Benchmark Results - Titan RTX (WDDM mode)
Total Rendering Time: 3 minutes 54.66 seconds
CUDA device 0 (TITAN RTX): 1800 iterations, 2.278s init, 229.775s render
Iteration Rate: (1800 / 229.775) = 7.834 iterations per second
Loading Time: ((180 + 54.66) - 229.775) = 234.66 - 229.775 = 4.885 seconds
Benchmark Results - i7-8700K
Total Rendering Time: 1 hours 2 minutes 3.25 seconds
CUDA device 0 (TITAN RTX): 1800 iterations, 2.386s init, 3718.209s render
Iteration Rate: (1800 / 3718.209) = 0.484 iterations per second
Loading Time: ((3600 + 120 + 3.25) - 3718.209) = 3723.25 - 3718.209 = 5.041 seconds
System Configuration
System/Motherboard: Microsoft Surface Book 2
CPU: Intel i7-8650U @ stock
GPU: Nvidia GTX 1050 2GB @ stock
System Memory: 16GB DDR3 @ 1867Mhz
OS Drive: Samsung OEM 512GB NVME SSD
Asset Drive: Sandisk Extreme 1TB External SSD
Operating System: W10 version 1903
Nvidia Drivers Version: 436.48 WDDM
Benchmark Results - GTX 1050 2GB
Total Rendering Time: 38 minutes 55.61 seconds
CUDA device 0 (GeForce GTX 1050): 1800 iterations, 5.040s init, 2327.177s render
Iteration Rate: (1800 / 2327.177) = 0.773 iterations per second
Loading Time: ((2280 + 55.61) - 2327.177) = 2335.61 - 2327.177 = 8.433 seconds
EDIT: added 2nd run with Optix enabled.
If I did it right I ran a benchmark test of my new GTX 1660 since it seems nobody has reported one yet.
System Configuration
System/Motherboard: MSI B75A-G43
CPU: Intel Core i7-3770 3.40GHz
GPU: Gigabyte GTX 1660 6GB
System Memory: Crucial 32 GB DDR3
OS Drive: WD Blue 1TB
Asset Drive: WD Black 2TB
Operating System: Windows Pro 7 64-bit build 7601
Nvidia Drivers Version: 436.15 standard
Daz Studio Version: 4.11.0.383 x64
Optix Prime Acceleration: OFF
Benchmark Results
DAZ_STATS
2019-10-18 21:15:32.506 Finished Rendering
2019-10-18 21:15:32.538 Total Rendering Time: 13 minutes 29.71 seconds
IRAY_STATS
2019-10-18 21:16:53.332 Iray INFO - module:category(IRAY:RENDER): 1.0 IRAY rend info : Device statistics:
2019-10-18 21:16:53.333 Iray INFO - module:category(IRAY:RENDER): 1.0 IRAY rend info : CUDA device 0 (GeForce GTX 1660): 1800 iterations, 6.516s init, 799.269s render
Iteration Rate: (DEVICE_ITERATION_COUNT / DEVICE_RENDER_TIME) 2.252 iterations per second
Loading Time: ((TRT_HOURS * 3600 + TRT_MINUTES * 60 + TRT_SECONDS) - DEVICE_RENDER_TIME) 10.441 seconds
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2nd run with Optix enabled:
Optix Prime Acceleration: ON
Benchmark Results
DAZ_STATS
2019-10-19 09:34:38.101 Finished Rendering
2019-10-19 09:34:38.122 Total Rendering Time: 12 minutes 6.70 seconds
IRAY_STATS
2019-10-19 09:35:22.618 Iray INFO - module:category(IRAY:RENDER): 1.0 IRAY rend info : Device statistics:
2019-10-19 09:35:22.618 Iray INFO - module:category(IRAY:RENDER): 1.0 IRAY rend info : CUDA device 0 (GeForce GTX 1660): 1800 iterations, 5.229s init, 717.052s render
Iteration Rate: (DEVICE_ITERATION_COUNT / DEVICE_RENDER_TIME) 2.510 iterations per second
Loading Time: ((TRT_HOURS * 3600 + TRT_MINUTES * 60 + TRT_SECONDS) - DEVICE_RENDER_TIME) 9.648 seconds
@pctech4ny Yep, that's it!
I just added a 2nd run with OptiX enabled and added to my previous post.
(I think I'd better leave that enabled from now on...)
System Configuration
System/Motherboard: Asrock B450M Steel Legend
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 @ stock
GPU: Asus GTX 1050 ti Cerberus @ stock
System Memory: Corsair Vengence 16Gb @ 3200mhz
OS Drive: Intel 660p m.2 nvme 512GB
Asset Drive: SanDisk Ultra II 240GB
Operating System: Windows 10 pro 1903 18362.418
Nvidia Drivers Version: 431.60
Daz Studio Version: 4.12.0.86
Benchmark Results
Optix Prime Acceleration: off
Total Rendering Time: 29 minutes 29.59 seconds
Iteration Rate: 1.017 iterations per second
Preload Time: 8.134 seconds
System/Motherboard: Asrock B450M Steel Legend
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 @ stock
GPU: MSI RTX 2060 Super Ventus @ stock
System Memory: Corsair Vengence 16Gb @ 3200mhz
OS Drive: Intel 660p m.2 nvme 512GB
Asset Drive: SanDisk Ultra II 240GB
Operating System: Windows 10 pro 1903 18362.418
Nvidia Drivers Version: 441.12
Daz Studio Version: 4.12.0.86
Benchmark Results
Optix Prime Acceleration: off
Total Rendering Time: 6 minutes 50.6 seconds
Iteration Rate: 4.383 iterations per second
Preload Time: 7.065 seconds
Thanks for posting @droidy001. Finally a 2060 Super test. The 2060 Super can beat a 1080 and even knock on 1080ti and Titan XP territory. That proves just how good of a deal the 2060 Super is.
By comparison, the 1660 lags quite a bit behind. That is quite a gap between them.
@droidy001 was the device render time in the log file for your 2060 SUPER 403.535s? Just wanted to double-check since your results appear so much better than the 2070 (granted the only numbers we have for the 2070 right now are from Iray pre-RTX.)
You can double check by calculating the reported iterations per second at 1800 iterations. I get 6.8446 minutes, which comes out to 6 minutes and 50 seconds, matching the time. So it looks to be the correct time to me. And with RT cores it makes sense to me, because that is the only way a 2060 could be so close to a 1080ti or Titan XP.
Given that @droidy001 reported a Total Rendering Time of 6 minutes 50.6 seconds (410.6 seconds), an Iterations Per Second of 4.383, and a Loading Time of 7.065 seconds along with the fact that Loading Time is calculated as:
It follows that:
Device Rendering Time + 7.065 = 410.6
Device Rendering Time = 403.535
And given that the benchmark scene runs to 1800 Total Iterations and Iteration Rate is calculated as:
If also follows that:
Iteration Rate = 4.461 (not 4.383!)
Meaning that there is a discrepancy somewhere in these numbers.
Here is the log
Got it. Thanks!
So that would give:
Iteration Rate: (1800 / 405.053) = 4.444 iterations per second
Loading Time: ((6 * 60 + 50.98) - 405.053) = (410.98 - 405.053) = 5.927 seconds
Well, that makes the iteration per second even higher, LOL.
Yeah, it does. Mayhap we can convince someone with a 2070 to run the benchmark in 4.12 so we can see if ithe 2060 SUPER truly beats out one of its higher tier brethren (if so, that would be a first across the entire Turing range - at least in terms of Iray performance.)
Indeed. I know a lot of people don't like RTX prices, and in many ways they would be right. But the 2060 and especially the 2060 Super are actually quite good for what they offer. You are not going to beat that without going into the used market, and even then it would be tough as the 1080 still sells high used, and it isn't even as fast...and now that the 2060 Super matches the 1080 with 8GB, its almost no contest.
I figured I give 1.3 a go. This time I tested the 1080tis alone to see how they compare to a 2060 Super, and then ran them together.
CPU: i5 4690K
GPU #1: EVGA 1080ti SC2
GPU #2: MSI 1080ti Gaming
RAM 32GB HyperX
OS Drive Samsung 860 EVO 1TB
Asset Drive: Samsung 860 EVO 1TB and WB 4TB Black HDD
Driver 436.02
Daz 4.12.0.86
MSI 1080ti ONLY
2019-11-09 00:05:22.782 Total Rendering Time: 7 minutes 42.23 seconds
2019-11-09 00:05:50.885 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER :: 1.0 IRAY rend info : Device statistics:
2019-11-09 00:05:50.885 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER :: 1.0 IRAY rend info : CUDA device 1 (GeForce GTX 1080 Ti): 1800 iterations, 6.270s init, 452.016s render
EVGA 1080ti ONLY
2019-11-09 00:22:21.167 Total Rendering Time: 7 minutes 38.53 seconds
2019-11-09 00:22:28.149 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER :: 1.0 IRAY rend info : Device statistics:
2019-11-09 00:22:28.149 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER :: 1.0 IRAY rend info : CUDA device 0 (GeForce GTX 1080 Ti): 1800 iterations, 5.600s init, 449.931s render
Both cards
2019-11-09 00:13:08.008 Total Rendering Time: 4 minutes 2.43 seconds
2019-11-09 00:13:17.099 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER :: 1.0 IRAY rend info : Device statistics:
2019-11-09 00:13:17.099 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER :: 1.0 IRAY rend info : CUDA device 0 (GeForce GTX 1080 Ti): 911 iterations, 6.063s init, 233.354s render
2019-11-09 00:13:17.099 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER :: 1.0 IRAY rend info : CUDA device 1 (GeForce GTX 1080 Ti): 889 iterations, 6.299s init, 233.061s render
After this test I decided to update my Nvidia driver
Driver 441.12
Both
2019-11-09 00:53:12.046 Total Rendering Time: 4 minutes 0.1 seconds
2019-11-09 00:53:27.143 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER :: 1.0 IRAY rend info : Device statistics:
2019-11-09 00:53:27.143 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER :: 1.0 IRAY rend info : CUDA device 0 (GeForce GTX 1080 Ti): 904 iterations, 6.463s init, 229.385s render
2019-11-09 00:53:27.149 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER :: 1.0 IRAY rend info : CUDA device 1 (GeForce GTX 1080 Ti): 896 iterations, 6.924s init, 228.953s render
Both +50 Overclock
2019-11-09 01:00:22.623 Total Rendering Time: 3 minutes 56.39 seconds
2019-11-09 01:00:29.163 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER :: 1.0 IRAY rend info : Device statistics:
2019-11-09 01:00:29.163 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER :: 1.0 IRAY rend info : CUDA device 0 (GeForce GTX 1080 Ti): 901 iterations, 5.858s init, 226.760s render
2019-11-09 01:00:29.163 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER :: 1.0 IRAY rend info : CUDA device 1 (GeForce GTX 1080 Ti): 899 iterations, 6.278s init, 227.107s render
So...a 1080ti LOSES to a 2060 Super. That is simply incredible by any standard. The top gaming card (if you don't count the Titans) from 2017 has lost to a card that is only a 4th tier level in 2019. I do not think this has ever happened in a single generation. Granted it is at a specific task, but that does not change what an amazing thing this is. I cannot recall any instance of a x60 beating the x80ti from the previous generation at anything, nor the x80 from before they started adding "ti" to models. Holy cow.
But I did tell you guys this was going to be possible with RTX! So while I am kind of saddened that my sexy EVGA and MSI 1080ti can lose to some scrawny 2060 Super that can't even fill out its shroud (seriously, I bet that 2060 uses padding...), I am also quite excited for the future.
At least I can still comfort myself by their combined power, and with their powers combined they form a Mighty Megazord of rendering goodness and pack 11GB of Zordon's VRAM. But it appears that is the only way they can win. Perhaps I should upgrade my 1080tis to 2060 Supers, LOL.
System Configuration
System/Motherboard: MSi B450-A Pro
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600x stock
GPU: RTX2070 @ stock
System Memory: Corsair LPX 8GB @ default
OS Drive: Samsung EVO 860 500GB
Asset Drive: Seagate Barracuda 4TB @ 5400rpm
Operating System: Win 10 Home
Nvidia Drivers Version: 441.12 Studio
Daz Studio Version: 4.12.0.86
Optix Prime Acceleration: On
Benchmark Results
DAZ_STATS 6 minutes 49.16 seconds
IRAY_STATS
Iteration Rate: 4.5600559
Loading Time: 14.428
2019-11-09 08:55:43.038 Finished Rendering
2019-11-09 08:55:44.491 Total Rendering Time: 6 minutes 49.16 seconds
2019-11-09 08:55:49.054 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER :: 1.0 IRAY rend info : Device statistics:
2019-11-09 08:55:49.061 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER :: 1.0 IRAY rend info : CUDA device 0 (GeForce RTX 2070): 1800 iterations, 7.579s init, 394.732s render
(including the lines from the log, just in case I messed up calculations again)
Thanks @Drip!
@outrider42 are you still on Windows 10 1809?
System Configuration
System/Motherboard: Asus X99-A II
CPU: Intel i7-6850K @ 3.8GHz
GPU: GPU1 Asus 980TI OC @ 1317MHz GPU eVGA 2080TI @ 1650MHz
System Memory: G.Skill DDR4 32GB@1066MHz
OS Drive: Samsung PM981 Polaris 1TB
Asset Drive: BRAND MODEL CAPACITY/Same (if same as OS)
Operating System: Windows 10 Pro 1903
Nvidia Drivers Version: 441.12
Daz Studio Version: 4.12.0.86
Optix Prime Acceleration: n/a
Benchmark Results - GTX 980Ti OC
Total Rendering Time: 10 minutes 42.35 seconds
CUDA device 0 (GeForce GTX 980 Ti): 1800 iterations, 3.071s init, 634.380s render
Rendering Performance: 1800 / 634.380s = 2.837 iterations per second
Loading Time: (600s + 42.35s) - 634.380s = 7.97 seconds
Benchmark Results - GTX 980Ti OC + GTX 980TI
Total Rendering Time: 5 minutes 44.9 seconds
CUDA device 1 (GeForce GTX 980 Ti): 861 iterations, 4.067s init, 332.835s render
CUDA device 0 (GeForce GTX 980 Ti): 939 iterations, 3.726s init, 333.303s render
Rendering Performance: 1800 / 333.303s = 5.219 iterations per second
Loading Time: (300s + 44.9s) - 333.303s = 11.597 seconds
Benchmark Results - RTX 2080Ti
Total Rendering Time: 4 minutes 20.86 seconds
CUDA device 0 (GeForce RTX 2080 Ti): 1800 iterations, 8.463s init, 248.357s render
Rendering Performance: 1800 / 248.357s = 7.248 iterations per second
Loading Time: (240s + 20.86s) - 248.357s = 12.503 seconds
Benchmark Results - RTX 2080Ti - GTX 980Ti OC
Total Rendering Time: 3 minutes 5.16 seconds
CUDA device 1 (GeForce GTX 980 Ti): 514 iterations, 3.647s init, 177.934s render
CUDA device 0 (GeForce RTX 2080 Ti): 1286 iterations, 3.307s init, 178.757s render
Rendering Performance: 1800 / 178.757s = 10.070 iterations per second
Loading Time: (180s + 5.16s) - 178.757s = 6.403 seconds
System Configuration
System/Motherboard: Gigabyte Aorus Gaming 7
CPU: AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X 16-Core Processor 3.40 GHz
GPU: 4 X GV-N208TTURBO-11GC GeForce RTX2080Ti Turbo 11GB GDDR6 352Bit DisplayPort/HDMI/USB
System Memory: Corsair Dominator Platinum 128GB (8x16GB) DDR4 3200MHz C16 Desktop Memory
OS Drive: Samsung 970 EVO Plus Series - 1TB PCIe NVMe - M.2 Internal SSD (MZ-V7S1T0B/AM)
Asset Drive: Samsung 970 EVO Plus Series - 1TB PCIe NVMe - M.2 Internal SSD (MZ-V7S1T0B/AM)
Operating System: Windows 10 Build 1903
Nvidia Drivers Version: 441.20
Daz Studio Version: 4 12 0 86
Optix Prime Acceleration: Off
Benchmark Results - 4 X RTX 2080ti
2019-11-14 22:17:28.943 Finished Rendering
2019-11-14 22:17:28.993 Total Rendering Time: 1 minutes 14.95 seconds
2019-11-14 22:17:36.520 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER :: 1.0 IRAY rend info : Device statistics:
2019-11-14 22:17:36.521 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER :: 1.0 IRAY rend info : CUDA device 3 (GeForce RTX 2080 Ti): 450 iterations, 3.707s init, 67.418s render
2019-11-14 22:17:36.521 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER :: 1.0 IRAY rend info : CUDA device 0 (GeForce RTX 2080 Ti): 449 iterations, 3.680s init, 67.370s render
2019-11-14 22:17:36.527 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER :: 1.0 IRAY rend info : CUDA device 1 (GeForce RTX 2080 Ti): 453 iterations, 3.938s init, 66.954s render
2019-11-14 22:17:36.527 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER :: 1.0 IRAY rend info : CUDA device 2 (GeForce RTX 2080 Ti): 448 iterations, 3.899s init, 66.291s render
Iteration Rate: 26.86
Loading Time: 7.95
Benchmark Results - CPU Only
2019-11-14 22:48:31.406 Finished Rendering
2019-11-14 22:48:31.451 Total Rendering Time: 27 minutes 28.35 seconds
2019-11-14 22:49:39.433 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER :: 1.0 IRAY rend info : Device statistics:
2019-11-14 22:49:39.440 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER :: 1.0 IRAY rend info : CPU: 1800 iterations, 0.467s init, 1645.057s render
Iteration Rate: 1.09
Loading Time: 3.293 (I forgot to completely exit out of Daz)