Can't get expression back from zeroed figure...

Zai

OK so this is a really weird problem and there may not be an actual solution, but here's hoping!

I made an expression for G8M and saved it out. Somewhere along the line I had used a "zero dials" setting on the figure, instead of zero pose. Apparently, I used it before I saved the expression out. So...the end result is while it saved a file, it saved all zero dials and it doesn't work on a new clean base. OK fine....that makes sense.

But...I still have a scene with a figure in the same pose and expression. I check it...and it has EVERYTHING set to zero, including the expression. It IS in the pose and has the expression, but it's just all set to zero. I was trying to get the expression back so I can resave it. So I tried saving the pose out again. It works....loads on a new base and everything, the pose is there and the expression is loaded. But...it shows all zero dials..LOL. 

That means it MUST be saving the info SOMEWHERE. So I went looking for any hidden dials and came up with basically nothing. The body has a few but not the face.

Anyone have any ideas? I'm hoping not to have to recreate the expression since I had it perfect :( It's so annoying because even though I can see it right in front of me I can't get at it. I'm just sitting here giving DS dirty looks wanting to yell... GIVE IT BACK!

Richard Haseltine

Are you checking both the local sldiers and the pose controls on the figure? There's a way to bake rotations, so that a pose shows zero rotations, but that doesn't work for morphs so I don't think it can be what is happening here.

Zai

Sorry hadn't gotten back to this, Richard. Thanks for the help...so..here's the deal...

I checked every dang dial and there's no values anywhere. I then went in and checked the pose file manually to see what I could see. In the text, there ARE numbers..but they are sort of useless to me. See example below:

 

"url" : "name://@selection/rLipUpperOuter:?translation/x/value",

"keys" : [ [ 0, 0.4813001 ] ]

},

{

"url" : "name://@selection/rLipUpperOuter:?translation/y/value",

"keys" : [ [ 0, -0.4229089 ] ]

},

{

"url" : "name://@selection/rLipUpperOuter:?translation/z/value",

"keys" : [ [ 0, 0.2123827 ] ]

 

I could pick them out and recreate the expression, except they have values on all 3 axis's and there's no way to dial that in. I thought maybe I could do like in/out on z, up/down on y or something weird like that, but then you bring in right/left etc., etc. I don't think it's really possible (at least not easily) to back into the expression this way, even though I do have SOME numbers. 

In the end I finally just recreated the expression as best I could. Trust me to break things! Moral of the story....RUNNNN far away from things that say "Zero DIALS" if that's not REALLY LITERALLY what you intend to do...LOL!

Zai

Also FYI..this was just an expression created with basic daz standard dials - no vendor expressions or baked dials.