Xeon good for Daz?
DelanRivals
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Hey guys im looking for advice on Daz3d And Iray Perfomence, so im thinking of getting a dual Xeon x5675 Setup with 24gb of ram, becuase the x5675 is insanley cheap right now!
and i have an GTX 980 4gb which is not enough memory but it gets the job done.
so im wondering if this is a good combination? are xeon's great for Daz studio?
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If you're working in Iray, you should prioritize getting a better GPU.
I would imagine that you would be disappointed with the performance of even a dual Xeon x5675 setup for rendering in iray.
Here's a comparison between the x5675 and the i7 8700K: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Intel-Xeon-X5675-vs-Intel-i7-8700/1309vs3099
From that, it is possible that a dual x5675 might be close to a single i7 8700K.
Now look at the iray benchmark thread here: https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/341041/daz-studio-iray-rendering-hardware-benchmarking/p1
If you look at table 1.2 in the benchmark thread, the i7 8700K shown there comes in at around 0.48 iterations/sec - which is around what you would get with a dual Xeon x5675 setup. Now compare that to a 1080Ti at 3.9 iterations/sec, a 2080Ti at 6.9 iterations/sec, or a 1070 at 2.6 iterations/sec.
If you use any other 3D program such a Vue or Poser, which mainly render with CPU, then the dual Xeon idea is likely a cost-effective way of getting performance close to a newer CPU, but for iray it's the GPU that you need to look at.
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alright cool, so is the Dual xeon great for anything beside rendering?
Not really my area of expertise, but I would imagine that it depends on what you are doing. If you're working in Office or Photoshop, they will be fine. Not sure how they would perform in gaming.
i was thinking of getting a GTX 690 with my GTX 980 becuase the 690 has 3000 Cudacores and it costs $100, yeah im on a Extreme Budget.
What do you think?
As a former dual-Xeon user, no. And no CPU-based solution is going to do much for your rendering speeds in IRay. I have a 12-core Xeon and it contributes diddly to the render times. In the order of 5% of the total render performance when I had my 1080tis. It's probably less than that now with my 2080tis.
As for the GTX 960, don't. It only has 2GB of VRAM, anything of any size will kick you down to CPU rendering, making the video card useless. Never upgrade your system with a less powerful card.
Kepler graphics cards are the oldest microarchitecture supported. I wouldn't anticipate that lasting for much longer.
Further CUDA is not directly comparable across GPU generations. CUDA from Kepler are slower and less capable than Maxwell CUDA which slower than Pascal CUDA and slower than Turing CUDA. So the 690 is probably substantially less capable than newer cards. Also the 690 is a multi GPU card with each GPU only having 2 Gb of VRAM, I'm completely unsure if the chips pool VRAM in any way, so you might only be able to fit 2 Gb scenes, which are very tiny, on the card.
I'd look to get a newer card even if it isn't that generations flagship.
Alright, thanks very much.
ok thanks man.
I misread the GPU as a 960, not a 690. Sorry. Thing is, while the 690 has 4GB of VRAM, the card is actually two cards on the same PCB, so it only has 2GB per card in the standard config. All other comments on the 690 in this thread are valid.
Building a budget Iray rig is very hard. Most scenes will take up more than 4Gb of VRAM and that excludes from consideration everything lower than/older than the 980ti and the OG Titan. Even the low end of the Pascal line, 1050ti and down (and a couple of versions of the 1060) don't really measure up. I've heard claims that 1060's are going for around $100 used but you have to be very careful that you're getting the 6Gb version, which is really the only one worth getting for Iray.