Edited Textures Save Darker

PorphyrogenitusPorphyrogenitus Posts: 68

Well my DAZ progress is coming along slowly because I don't get to do it a lot and I fumble through things, but I finally got around to trying to edit textures.

So this is probably more of a "photoshop question" than a "DAZ question," but I figure people here are more likely to have encountered it and know how to fix it:

anyhow when I edit a skin texture (say, a torso, because I wanted to take something out of an otherwise good texture), when I save it out of photoshop it saves slightly darker.

Which means that when that surface is used with the other surfaces (limbs & face), there are "seams," especially between the shoulders and the chest.

The "easiest" way to solve this would probably be to "edit" all the surfaces and save them, then they'll all (probably?) be the same shade. But I really don't want the color to shift at all; I want to save it the same shade/color as it was before.

I already searched online elsewhere for a solution to that, but the tips I found didn't work, and seemed to apply to a different issue anyhow because they were about to keep colors the same when saving another file type to JPEG, but I'm editing images that are already JPEGs.

So: what's the best way to save an image after editing it in a way that keeps the colors stable?

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  • mjc1016mjc1016 Posts: 15,001
    edited December 1969

    Make sure you aren't embedding/using a color profile in PS when saving the texture.

    Basically, if you do embed or use a color profile, then the others won't match (obviously) because they were either saved with a different one, by the original artist or none at all...

  • PorphyrogenitusPorphyrogenitus Posts: 68
    edited December 2013

    Ok, thanks. Pardon my noobness, but where will I find/turn off "color profile" in PS?

    I thought it might be the "ICC profile: sRGB" radio button on the "save as" screen, but unchecking that didn't help: it still saves in a different shade. Nor did checking "Don't Color Manage This Document" under "Assign Profile" - same problem.

    The last 2d editor I really used was paintshop. I'm newer to photoshop than I am to DAZ.

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  • mjc1016mjc1016 Posts: 15,001
    edited December 1969

    Hmm...if neither of those is doing anything to prevent the changes, then I'm not sure where the problem lies.

    I'm pretty much a GIMP user, and my knowledge of the ins and outs of PS stops several generations back.

    Maybe Jaderail will drop in and comment on this, as he is a really big PS user.

  • PorphyrogenitusPorphyrogenitus Posts: 68
    edited December 1969

    Thanks, though; I appreciate the response. ^_^

    In the meantime I'll keep fiddling around with it. It's probably something I'm overlooking.

  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Well, after the lead up I hate to report that I too hit the color change in texture files when I use PS, only in JPG format too. I still use PSP for most texture work. Luckily PSP reads the color pallet from the JPGs so you have to try pretty hard to mess them up in it.

  • mjc1016mjc1016 Posts: 15,001
    edited December 1969

    I don't have that problem in GIMP so, I'm basically at a loss...

    My guess, though, is that PS IS using some sort of 'default' color profile that isn't matching the one used to originally create the file and that calibrating/setting the proper color profile would cure it.

  • macleanmaclean Posts: 2,438
    edited December 1969

    Are you using the Save for Web option in Photoshop? If so, uncheck the ICC profile box in the dialog.

    Also, try opening a jpg in an image viewer and in photoshop, then compare them side by side. If it looks different in PS, then its due to your color profile. You can manage color in Menu> Edit> Color Settings (SHIFT+CTRL+K).

    mac

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,941
    edited December 1969

    I don't think attaching a profile will hurt - it will affect how some viewers show the image, but not - to my knowledge - how Poser or DS use it. I would suspect that the issue is on loading the image, PS is converting to a profile instead of simply assigning one while leaving the RGB numbers unchanged. What options do you have set for Edit>Colour Settings under Colour Management policies - mine are set to Preserve Embedded profiles, I suspect yours may be set to Convert to Working RGB.

  • PorphyrogenitusPorphyrogenitus Posts: 68
    edited December 2013

    Thanks for everyone's help!

    That last things, the ones Mac & Richard mentioned, seems to be what it was, conversion on loading the image. I had "Preserve Embedded Profiles" checked, but for some reason that wasn't taking hold until I also changed 'Convert to Profile' destination source to match the source profile, and under "Assign Profile" change it from "Working RGB" to "Don't Color Manage This Document."

    It also wanted me to sing "hey, you, get off of my cloud" but I thought that was going a bit too far.

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  • mjc1016mjc1016 Posts: 15,001
    edited December 1969

    I don't think attaching a profile will hurt - it will affect how some viewers show the image, but not - to my knowledge - how Poser or DS use it. I would suspect that the issue is on loading the image, PS is converting to a profile instead of simply assigning one while leaving the RGB numbers unchanged. What options do you have set for Edit>Colour Settings under Colour Management policies - mine are set to Preserve Embedded profiles, I suspect yours may be set to Convert to Working RGB.

    I knew someone who uses PS of a more recent vintage than when I last used it, would know the exact settings...

  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Wonderful info. But really? Three settings to just preserve a load on the fly pallet? I thought for sure PS was going to be easy and powerful. Power YES easy not so much....

  • PorphyrogenitusPorphyrogenitus Posts: 68
    edited December 1969

    Jaderail said:
    Wonderful info. But really? Three settings to just preserve a load on the fly pallet? I thought for sure PS was going to be easy and powerful. Power YES easy not so much....
    IKR? I'm just getting started with it. And it's not just three settings because, at least in this latest "cloud" version, when I open an image it first opens in a window, from where you have to open it again for editing. . .but first I had to make sure all the stuff on the right side were set to 0, because a couple of the "default" settings were -50, -100; and if you leave them like that it changes the image tint. >_<</p>
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