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@DAZ : When will you finally fix this? : "Unable to render. no rendering engine available."

MasterstrokeMasterstroke Posts: 2,033
edited December 1969 in Daz Studio Discussion

Win 7(64) DAZStudioStudio Pro64 - 4.6.139, Error Message: "Unable to render. no rendering engine available."

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  • TotteTotte Posts: 14,048
    edited January 2014

    Can you show what render settings you are using?
    EDIT:
    Just saw they didnt even load?

    Do you have an AntiVirus that has made a false positive and quarantined the DLLs?

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  • MasterstrokeMasterstroke Posts: 2,033
    edited December 1969

    No antivirus alarms. This issue has been going on for a while. Had opened a ticket allready. I found a workaround by using another install-path. But I like to have my PC organized the way I prefere to. This path has worked fine untill the relese of DS 4.5. especially since I have the freedom to set up the path, as I like to, with the DAZ installer. So what is going on. Since then and allthough DAZ is aware of that problem, nothing has been done on that. One user is just not important enough.

  • TotteTotte Posts: 14,048
    edited December 1969

    Masterstroke said:
    No antivirus alarms. This issue has been going on for a while. Had opened a ticket allready. I found a workaround by using another install-path. But I like to have my PC organized the way I prefere to. This path has worked fine untill the relese of DS 4.5. especially since I have the freedom to set up the path, as I like to, with the DAZ installer. So what is going on. Since then and allthough DAZ is aware of that problem, nothing has been done on that. One user is just not important enough.

    Windows security policies can interfere with DLLs, specially since they have tried to clean up the DLL-hell. Often, the installation path for an application is set for a reason.

    Now, I'm not an expert on windows programming but one thing you can do to avoid that someone makes a DLL with the same name as yours, and places it in a location where the OS first reads before where the real one is located, (to infect the system and make it looks like it was the application that did it) is to lock locations of a DLL so the application wont load it if it's not in the correct spot. I have no idea if that is the case,, but if it works as DAZ decided to install it, maybe there is a reason not to change that?

  • MasterstrokeMasterstroke Posts: 2,033
    edited December 1969

    I am not an expert enough to tell if there are some dll conflicts. Fact is, the DAZ installer gives me the choice to install DS where ever I like to. It just doesn't make sense, that some essentiall plugins don't work then. I just expect DAZ to fix it. thank you for noticing ;) Does anybody else have that kind of a problem? This cannot be only me.

  • TotteTotte Posts: 14,048
    edited December 1969

    Masterstroke said:
    I am not an expert enough to tell if there are some dll conflicts. Fact is, the DAZ installer gives me the choice to install DS where ever I like to. It just doesn't make sense, that some essentiall plugins don't work then. I just expect DAZ to fix it. thank you for noticing ;) Does anybody else have that kind of a problem? This cannot be only me.

    I Recommend installing with DIM, and it might just be you as it is most probably a combination of several factors causing it, moving installation path triggers it.

  • mjc1016mjc1016 Posts: 15,001
    edited December 1969

    More of an observation, than suggestion...

    I noticed that your 'base' language is German?

    It seems the more recent builds have trouble with localization...could you have any 'special' characters in you path?

    I think, but don't have anything to back it up, it has more to do with Windows implementation of character encoding than anything else.

  • PuntomausPuntomaus Posts: 450
    edited December 1969

    I've got the same setup as Masterstroke - German Win7 64 and DS installed on D, works like a charm. So I guess there's something else going on.

    Maybe try the following: download DS again - do not install but only unzip instead. In that folder go to the DAZ Studio 4 folder and double click on the DAZ Studio exe to start Studio. Then load something like a sphere or cube and render. That should work. I've tested it right now to be sure and it worked without problem. Maybe you can uninstall your buggy version and use this one instead.

  • mjc1016mjc1016 Posts: 15,001
    edited December 1969

    Puntomaus said:
    I've got the same setup as Masterstroke - German Win7 64 and DS installed on D, works like a charm. So I guess there's something else going on.

    Maybe try the following: download DS again - do not install but only unzip instead. In that folder go to the DAZ Studio 4 folder and double click on the DAZ Studio exe to start Studio. Then load something like a sphere or cube and render. That should work. I've tested it right now to be sure and it worked without problem. Maybe you can uninstall your buggy version and use this one instead.


    I've seen Win Vista and newer choke on, believe it or not, some special/accented characters from some font sets, depending on what the default system character encoding is...it's like it wants to be UTF-8, but some of the fonts don't have very good UTF-8 compatibility or something.

  • MasterstrokeMasterstroke Posts: 2,033
    edited December 1969

    I have tried several versions since.4.5. I used exe installers and zip installers. No way there is something about that path.

  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Let me ask this, do you run any other OS system calling programs from that drive? Reason I ask is I had a Bought Drive that was configured as a DATA drive only so the OS never executed command files from that drive. It would Open programs fine but if the running program called a DLL or custom command from that drive it failed. This is RARE I admit, but it can happen.

  • dakkuuandakkuuan Posts: 305
    edited December 1969

    Typically I just have to restart the PC and it resolves the issue. I've seen it a few times but it's more of an annoyance to me than a deal breaker.

  • PuntomausPuntomaus Posts: 450
    edited December 1969

    Masterstroke said:
    I have tried several versions since.4.5. I used exe installers and zip installers. No way there is something about that path.

    You tried what I suggested and the unzipped not installed version of DAZ Studio did not render either?

  • MasterstrokeMasterstroke Posts: 2,033
    edited December 1969

    Uninstalled DS and reinstalled it into D:/DAZ3d/Studio. Works like a charm now. It's so weird.

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