Microsoft updates
andreretogasser
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O.K., my computer is not the newest product. For over 2 years I was able to render my illustrations - of course it was always a matter of time but it worked ... the last 8 months, I observed that Daz3D ran worse with every MS update. And after each MS update, the time required to get Daz3D up and running got worse. It makes me sick.
Newest state - only the dialogue window for the Internet connection to log on my account shows correctly on screen (as it always did first of all) when I open Daz3d. The working surface is active, according to the icon - but it is impossible to get it on screen to actually use Daz3D. The only possible action is X (Icon) to close the application.
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As an aside, you don't have to work online at all.
What version of WIndows is this, and what are your system specifications? Also, which version of Daz Studio is this?
I know I can work offline - as you say that's not the issue :-)
Windows: Win10 Fam Version 1903 / 18362.418 64bit last vers. installed 03.10.2019
System: ACER ASPIRE ES17 - 731G, Intel Celeron CPU N 3150 1.60 GHz RAM 8Go with a NVIDIA GeForce 910M 2GB dedicated VRAM, 8GB DDR3L
DAZ 4.12 64 bit
User: Mark one caveman built in 1971 - without proper supervision, without proper formation on PC - but not under the influence of drugs neither ;-) - and so far quite capable of working on the DAZ application.
That machine is minimum spec to run Win 10. If you ever got Daz to work well on that rig in Win 10 I'm shocked.
Laptop performce on low spec systems is always quite iffy and that is a rerally really low spec system. You migh pick up a small amount of performance by getting an SSD, if the rig allows adding/replacing the drive. But honestly put that dinosaur out of your misery. Groupon/eBay or Craigslist should all have cheap laptops better than that thing at $200 ro $300.
Now I'm a little bit proud - because I made hundreds of illustrations using Daz3D on this computer, some I am proud of.... but OK. - pictures, no animations, and I was not in a hurry when it came to rendering (overnight).
HOWEVER, it does not answer my question why Daz3D worked until last MS update (for my purposes) and does not work anymore since.......
likely you're way over 8Gb needed and you're doing lots of disk swapping. That has been known to lock up programs or to make it take unusually long time to load.
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It sounds to me like when I set a program up on a second monitor and just turned on the primary.
Newest state - only the dialogue window for the Internet connection to log on my account shows correctly on screen (as it always did first of all) when I open Daz3d. The working surface is active, according to the icon - but it is impossible to get it on screen to actually use Daz3D. The only possible action is X (Icon) to close the application.
If this is a possible situation, there is a key combination out there to fix it, unfortunately, I don't remember it.
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Sorry for the question - I am really a Mark I caveman user, maybe I ask stupid things:
Unless it would be done automatically, I am not aware to do anything like "lots of discswapping"..... until recently, I simply opened Daz3D and did my thing.... as everybody does.... - I guess?
so, following you Daz3D was not over 8Gb needed on my PC before the MS setup (for Daz3D worked normally-at least for my needs) and it became over 8Gb needed with the update? That would sound to me like Mister Gates friends making me buy a new PC? Don't get me wrong, I am not against renewing my material - but I would have kind of hard feelings being tricked in it......
As it seems, I am pretty Dinosaur-mode: No second screen has ever been attached to this PC. I do therefore not see how the MS update might possibly have messed up my standard configuration... ? - right? If not, this is getting pretty scary for a caveman user like me.....
No, Windows has had a feature call virtual memory since Win 95, IIRC, where if the amount of memory the running applications need exceeds the physical amount available then some of that memory is written to a hidden file on disk and then read back in when needed, with other stuff written to disk to make room. If you're consuming nearly all abailable RAM with just the OS and background apps it can happen quite a lot.
For instance With just Chrome open my Win 10 computer is using 5.6 Gb of RAM. This system has no OEM bloatware since I built it myself and am very careful of what gets installed.
Laptops, and pre built computers more generally, have a lot of stuff that loads at boot and does next to nothing. Cleaning all that stuff out, by uninstalling it, can take quite a while but can greatly improve performance. The trick is for someone who doesn't know computers very well to do it without uninstalling something actually needed.