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Ram with no XMP profile for current motherboard

lazarus102lazarus102 Posts: 47
in Technical Help (nuts n bolts)

I just bought https://www.newegg.ca/p/N82E16813144262 this motherboard, and I'm waiting on the DDR4 ram that I ordered so that I can use it. 

But I didn't search the exact model number from the MSI ram compatibility list. So it's quite likely that it won't have an XMP profile. 

Now anyone that knows the specifics of what an XMP profile is, and how it's implemented, should know that technically any kind of ram should be useable with this motherboard, just that the exact 100% stable timings have not been tested and put into an XMP profile by MSI. That said, I am just curious if anyone here might know from experience what the best timings would be for https://www.newegg.ca/team-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820331413?Item=N82E16820331413 this ram, on that board with a 2700X Rizen.

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  • kenshaw011267kenshaw011267 Posts: 3,805

    16-18-18-38 (According to the product listing) for sub timings you'll need to get them TeamGroup. 

    However Ryzen is notoriously difficult about RAM and timings. You might get it running at 3200 or it might fail during memory training and rop back to 2133 no matter what timings you enter. 

    If at all possible cancel the order and get RAM on that mobo's QVL list for Ryzen 2000.

  • FishtalesFishtales Posts: 6,162

    Compatible upgrades for your board here.

    https://uk.crucial.com/gbr/en/compatible-upgrade-for/MSI(MicroStar)/mpg-x570-gaming-plus

  • lazarus102lazarus102 Posts: 47
    kenshaw011267 said:

    16-18-18-38 (According to the product listing) for sub timings you'll need to get them TeamGroup. 

    However Ryzen is notoriously difficult about RAM and timings. You might get it running at 3200 or it might fail during memory training and rop back to 2133 no matter what timings you enter. 

    If at all possible cancel the order and get RAM on that mobo's QVL list for Ryzen 2000.

    Well, I ordered the motherboard and CPU weeks ago, and it's taken newegg over a week to get me a single ram stick that was supposed to take 1-3 days. I'm not waiting any longer to use my new hardware even if I'm forced to run the ram at default speed. I actually looked up several alternatives on the same day that I bought it (just after I bought it and realised it wasn't on the list) but they were all nearly double the price... Since the board only came out in June, I'm guessing that they get a cut of the profits from the ram sales in order to keep the qualified list short; that way the ram companies can rake in more cash from people with newer motherboards, by selling rizen certified sticks.. Seems I can't go a single godamned day without corporate greed screwing me over in some way.. 

  • kenshaw011267kenshaw011267 Posts: 3,805

    Not at all. There are a lot of RAM on the market and getting every kit out there and testing it on every mobo is just not possible, and some do fail that's what the QVL is all about. Secondly in the US at least that would be quite illegal, it would violate the anti trust laws, and when word got out would get all the companies involved sued by both consumers and the companies frozen out of the deals.

     

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