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Daz Studio crashing computer, anyway to stop it?

DaventakiDaventaki Posts: 1,624
in Technical Help (nuts n bolts)

I know that this is a problem across the board and something to do with iray and all that but what I want to know is there anyway to stop it froming crashing the computer?  I have tried different settings within DS but sometimes it will crash the whole system without any notice and nothing appears in any log files as to why it is doing it.  I know it has to do with probably the cpu and ram and possibly the gpu but there has to be some way to keep it from shutting down the whole system.

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  • TheKDTheKD Posts: 2,696

    Hmmm, is it a modern PC? If it is, usually it will only shut down the computer if it gets danger zone hot.

  • kenshaw011267kenshaw011267 Posts: 3,805

    You need to monitor the system with the something that reports the CPU and GPU temps. I also highly recommend you clean the dust out of the interior paying attention to the cpu and gpu coolers. Also verify all the fans are working.

    If it isn't a heat problem there are other things to test but DS should not be crashing your entire computer.

  • DaventakiDaventaki Posts: 1,624

    Not getting hot the render hasnt even had time to get going when it does it and I dont use iray preview.  This time is was because I forgot to turn the line tesallation down on SBH and it causes it.  Its not a new computer by any means but its not that old either.  Built it a couple of years ago, nothing else causes it to crash like Daz Studio...

    As far as temps go even during a render ive never seen it hit 80 celsius

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,293
    edited February 2020

    Do you have an AMD or intel CPU? I've found DAZ Studio a more likely to blue screen my new AMD Ryzen 7 2700 desktop in the 3 weeks I've had it then it ever was in 4 years of rendeer on intel CPUs, although it did blue screen intel CPUs twice or thrice in those 4 years. The AMD CPU has blue screened once in 3 weeks already.

    In all cases for myself the bluescreening was because of a memory management problem while DAZ Studio was rendering. In the past when I have had a scene that consistently crashes DAZ Studio I've changed the render to be optimized for memory instead of speed or auto to fix it. Reducing the resolution from 4K to 2K or even FHD is even better and you can leave your current optimization to it current value. I've always CPU rendered.

    If you GPU render you are much more likely to get a bluescreen than by CPU render in the first place and usually because of GPU drivers having bugs.

    If you are having a consistent blue screen and for a certain scene too then file a ticket with DAZ support is the only way to get it fixed but only after upgrading/downgrading to the latest stable release of nVidia GPU drivers. You can also try lowering the resolution of your render to solve your blue screen problem.

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  • DaventakiDaventaki Posts: 1,624

    AMD and GPU renders, Ill try the optimize for memory and see if that helps.  It seems random when it decides to crash (different scenes) but its always before it kicks completely into the render-meaning it says Rendering.... then crash....

    Otherwise if its working normally it will says Rendering.... then list the GPUs then state geometry on each etc.

    And using Iray preview now is a no go where before I used it frequently along with having multiple processed renders open..........  Since the recent updates.......

  • scorpioscorpio Posts: 8,471
    nonesuch00 said:

    Do you have an AMD or intel CPU? I've found DAZ Studio a more likely to blue screen my new AMD Ryzen 7 2700 desktop in the 3 weeks I've had it then it ever was in 4 years of rendeer on intel CPUs, although it did blue screen intel CPUs twice or thrice in those 4 years. The AMD CPU has blue screened once in 3 weeks already.

    In all cases for myself the bluescreening was because of a memory management problem while DAZ Studio was rendering. In the past when I have had a scene that consistently crashes DAZ Studio I've sent render to be optimized for memory instead of speed or auto. Reducing the resolution from 4K to 2K or even FHD is even better and you can leave your current optimization to it current value. I've always CPU rendered.

    If you GPU render you are much more likely to get a bluescreen that by CPU render in the first place and usually because of GPU drivers having bugs.

    If you are having a consistent blue screen and for a certain scene too then file a ticket with DAZ support is the only way to get it fixed but only after upgrading/downgrading to the latest stable release of nVidia GPU drivers. You can also try lowing the resolution of your render to solve your blue screen problem.

    I have a Ryzen 7 and in the year I've had it I don't think I've had 1 blue screen.

  • PadonePadone Posts: 3,786

    I have a ryzen 3 and no issues here too

  • kenshaw011267kenshaw011267 Posts: 3,805
    scorpio said:
    nonesuch00 said:

    Do you have an AMD or intel CPU? I've found DAZ Studio a more likely to blue screen my new AMD Ryzen 7 2700 desktop in the 3 weeks I've had it then it ever was in 4 years of rendeer on intel CPUs, although it did blue screen intel CPUs twice or thrice in those 4 years. The AMD CPU has blue screened once in 3 weeks already.

    In all cases for myself the bluescreening was because of a memory management problem while DAZ Studio was rendering. In the past when I have had a scene that consistently crashes DAZ Studio I've sent render to be optimized for memory instead of speed or auto. Reducing the resolution from 4K to 2K or even FHD is even better and you can leave your current optimization to it current value. I've always CPU rendered.

    If you GPU render you are much more likely to get a bluescreen that by CPU render in the first place and usually because of GPU drivers having bugs.

    If you are having a consistent blue screen and for a certain scene too then file a ticket with DAZ support is the only way to get it fixed but only after upgrading/downgrading to the latest stable release of nVidia GPU drivers. You can also try lowing the resolution of your render to solve your blue screen problem.

    I have a Ryzen 7 and in the year I've had it I don't think I've had 1 blue screen.

    I've had a R7 2700 since it came out, bought it on day of release, and not had a blue screen that I remember. Blue screens are caused by wonky RAM, usually, or by very bad SW. 

    I'd wager that something isn't seated properly and that causes the issue.

     

  • kenshaw011267kenshaw011267 Posts: 3,805
    Daventaki said:

    AMD and GPU renders, Ill try the optimize for memory and see if that helps.  It seems random when it decides to crash (different scenes) but its always before it kicks completely into the render-meaning it says Rendering.... then crash....

    Otherwise if its working normally it will says Rendering.... then list the GPUs then state geometry on each etc.

    And using Iray preview now is a no go where before I used it frequently along with having multiple processed renders open..........  Since the recent updates.......

    Based on your report I think some component in your system is failing. You need to check your RAM and drives using utilities like memtest and chkdsk to see if you can find the problem. If you find it you can replace it.

  • TheKDTheKD Posts: 2,696

    Yeah, Im on ryzen 5 2600x on win7, only time I had blue screen issues was when I was messing with manual overclock settings when I first built it.

  • LOGILANDLOGILAND Posts: 1
    edited February 2020

    The answer could be for Daz to rescale their intire system so texture sizes are not 4096x4096 ! Say 5 textuers in one scene is like your graphics card trying to do 5x4K applications at once. IDK.

     

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  • kenshaw011267kenshaw011267 Posts: 3,805
    LOGILAND said:

    The answer could be for Daz to rescale their intire system so texture sizes are not 4096x4096 ! Say 5 textuers in one scene is like your graphics card trying to do 5x4K applications at once. IDK.

     

    Not remotely true. A 4k texture, assuming 8 bit color, is almost 48Mb. 5 is 240Mb. Even on a 2Gb card, which would be something like a GTX 1050, that is only around 10% of the available VRAM.

  • DaventakiDaventaki Posts: 1,624

    All systems check came out fine.  I have ordered some ram to increase mine from 16 to 32.  I figured out once my ram was maxed the whole computer restarted.  Its like its not even kicking to virtual memory so I dont know whats up with that because it is set up.  Only Daz Studio at this point causes the restart and its when Im trying to do something big in studio, Sad thing is some of the things I could do in 4.11 with no problems.......

  • FishtalesFishtales Posts: 6,162

    Make sure the Virtual Ram is at least twice, or more than, the amount of fitted ram and that there is enough space on the hard drive to accommodate it.

  • danielishola2danielishola2 Posts: 1

    pls i need help, daz app crashes anytime i add/select  a figure(female), is there a remedy? thanks

  • danielishola2danielishola2 Posts: 1

    pls i need help, daz app crashes anytime i add/select  a figure(female), is there a remedy? thanks

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