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Mistara
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warning file /data/daz 3d/genesis/base/genesis.dsf could not be found error nodo -C8.5P
i checked, the file is in the data folder.
how can i help CA find the file?
is there a registry key? i can't find an .ini file.
i submitted a support ticket, but i impatiently want to start rendering CA, :lol:
Reinstalling DS and CMS was giving me error messages using the 'installer'.
so i uninstalled DS and CMS with the 'uninstaller'.
rebooted.
manually deleted the cms and daz executables folders.
Installed. custom destination path, E:\DS\ for the cms E:\QS\
oddly enough, didn't touch the carrara install at all. but, Aiko 5 loads up now. :cheese:
also, is there a way to undock the content browse palette? I want to put it on my 2nd monitor.
Thanks :)
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Where is that folder called Figures contained in?
You have a folder on it's own for Aiko 5, it has an icon, and I am assuming that it is Aiko 5.DUF. This file MUST be in the same DAZ Library as Genesis which is why I am asking where the Figures folder is located?
it's under my ds content library. i didn't touch the data folder, everything in data folder is default.
i read somewhere carrara only wants .duf files. but, i just re d/l the genesis starter essentials this morning, it's still a genesis.dsf file.
DUF is the new DS file format for Scenes and other things, DSF files are still used in the data folder, so that is not the problem.
Can you please post a screenshot of your DS Content folder, showing where the Figures and data folders are located? I have 'Aiko 5.DUF' in my folder in Carrara, and it is contained in My DAZ 3D Library\People\Genesis\Characters. When I load Aiko 5.duf in carrara, it works perfectly.
my genesis, aiko5, and Michael 6 all work dandy in DS.
will come back later with a screenshot.
the CA documenation says the shared folder can be anywhere.
Carrara and DS are installed on my e; drive partition
i had C7 installed on my c drive. uninstalled it. i manually deleted the C7 folders.
could there something left in the registry confusing C8?
Thanks. :)
works fine in DS4.
all i did was 'add folder' in Carrara. what more could it possibly need?
WHAT folder did you add in Carrara?
Is the top level folder called 'Content', and did you add that? If you post a screenshot of your Content folder showing the folders that it holds, I may be able so spot something?
Misty - Is it possible that you have more than one folder/location for DS content? I ask because the image that shows where your Genesis is shows it as Genesis.dsf ". After upgrading to the latest starter essentials, which you just did, it should be "Genesis.duf", So that makes me think you may have 2 (or more?) DS content folders on your system. The default location is C:\Users\Public\Public Documents\.
Another issue may be that you need to also install the latest version/update of A5. This is just a guess.
Also, Carrara is a little less forgiving in where everything is located than DS is. I've run into situations where Carraa can't load a file because it was in a location other than where it "should" be (a character file saved to the default location DS4 put it - the Studio 4 folder). DS could open it with no problem, but Carrara would give me the same error your getting,. After I saved the file where it "should" be, and everything worked as it should in Carrara. Your folder structure looks much different than mine, which is the default where DAZ "want's" everything. So this may also be the problem.
Just some thoughts. More info on your folder structures and exactly what folder you're "adding would help a lot.
i seem to have misplaced a post. lol
seems to me DS is more advanced than CA.
Thank you for trying to help :)
i have the original zip files, don't know if that would count as an extra DS folder.
my top folder is named MyLibrary, \data folder is directly a subfolder.
i'll try renaming MyLibrary to Content
i specified MyLibrary as the top folder when adding it.
I can see my DS folder stuff, and i can double click or drag genesis,
but ca doesn't seem to recognize the \data folder is directly under \MyLibrary
i'm trying the rmp carrara forum too. see if anyone learned a fix.
i arrange my folders to how it makes sense to me. hate endless drill downs :roll:
i didn't disturb the \data or \runtime folder. but everything else i moved.
maybe it's time to return ca before my 30 days is up. sigh
Well Genesis was actually built for DAZ Studio, so even with that older version still installed on your system is, of course, readable by DAZ Studio. The problem comes in when the dsf versions were supposed to be uninstalled, but they were not.
DS can still load them, but Carrara cannot. Kind of like asking DS to load a CAR file... it cannot.
Whenever we move our files around manually we run the risk of losing a connection between the files that require each other. CMS in DS might be able to piece your files to each other, but I fear that, in doing so, it's connecting to a long obsolete Genesis file... the DSF. New Genesis is DUF instead.
I have a short article on Daz Install Manager - Installing Custom Poser Runtimes that may help to show how we can use the DIM to our advantage in making unique places for sorting our content.
The great thing about using this approach is that you maintain the ability to uninstall. When DIM updates files, it automatically uninstalls files that need to be removed. Manual installation seldom uninstalls anything. I only say seldom instead of "never" because there may be some folks out there that do understand the importance of all of this, and comb through their folders when installing manually. But I have a feeling that most of those people have gone the way of the DIM, simply because it removes the headache.
I am new to DAZ Studio, and what I use it for is not at all the way I use Carrara. It is just a content creation tool for me, so I have never really looked into sorting files using the CMS. But that's how I was told to sort stuff, if I wanted to do that. Grabbing folders and moving them around after installation, even if using the DIM, voids the ability to uninstall, so you now have files that should really have been deleted long before the release of Carrara 8.5 and DAZ Studio 4.6
Whoa! Genesis of any type won't work in anything earlier than C8.5!
Just to make sure the other post I quoted and responded to wasn't a typo:
What version of Carrara do you have?
You mentioned a 30 day return in another post, yet you also mention C7? Is it possible you bought C8.5, but haven't installed it yet, or you launched the older C7 you may have already had instead of C8.5 (both can reside on the same computer and have different preferences, etc)?
Just to make sure the other post I quoted and responded to wasn't a typo:
What version of Carrara do you have?
You mentioned a 30 day return in another post, yet you also mention C7? Is it possible you bought C8.5, but haven't installed it yet, or you launched the older C7 you may have already had instead of C8.5 (both can reside on the same computer and have different preferences, etc)?
Evil - indeed, she has C8.5, Also you can't even see A5 in the content browser like in the first post with C7 or C8 .
Misty - I'm pretty sure now it's probably a content location issue that Carrara can't compensate for, and multiple versions of Genesis in your content folder. From what I can see it looks like things are set up much differently than the way DIM sets them up. Just out of curiosity, have you tried loading A5 from the Smart Content Tab, or is that unavailable as well?
Edit to add: A content folder arranged in a way that Carrara didn't recognize would also explain why Carrara didn't find it automatically. You might try installing Genesis and A5 using DIM, with the default location to see if that works.
Misty, according to the screenshot that you posted earlier, your data folder is NOT in the My DAZ 3D Library folder, it is in a folder called Content. That is why I wanted you to post a screenshot of your library folder. You should NOT have a folder called Content inside your My DAZ 3D library folder.
If you have My DAZ 3D Library listed as a Carrara library, then Carrara will be looking inside that folder folder for the data folder, and it wont be found, because it is inside another folder called Content. Remove My DAZ 3D Library from the list, and add the path to the Content folder, and then it should work.
Because you have named the library folder as 'My DAZ 3D Library' Carrara assumes that the 'data' folder is in that folder as well, and it isn't.
I guess I feel lucky, being new to the whole DAZ Studio thing. I mean, I used DAZ Studio before I got Carrara, but then it was still using the Poser Runtime style.
When Genesis came to town, I started treating it and all of its content like any other runtime. Luckily for me, I made a new runtime for this so I didn't wreck anything when I decided to obliterate it in favor for DIM, after I've finally wrapped my head around using that.
I really don't mean to preach, nor do I mean to sound high and mighty in the ways of Genesis... I am kind of new to all of this, with the exception that I've been experimenting with "Genesis in Carrara" as long as there has been a Carrara 8.5 beta to try.
The tell tale sign for me was seeing two Genesis thumbnails in my browser.
Sure, I could simply delete the dsf version and be done with it. However, I had a strong fear that such a thing would only increase the headache factor. For example, what if I still had a totally different obsolete file in there somewhere that still called for that Genesis dsf... it certainly would call up an error looking for it, right?
You can still see the presence of my confusion in my warnings in my Carrara Information Manual thread. I still have warnings in place that the DIM makes a whole new default library location. In changing things around, my first use of DIM led me to failure. I just wasn't looking at the file structure correctly.
So after a lot of careful consideration, I've finally decided to use this great tool the way it was meant to be used - as an install/uninstall manager for all of my DAZ 3D content. Most importantly for Genesis and all of its content, but I also decided to use it to manage my other, older style of 'Runtime Structure' installs as well.
To do this, I started by hooking up my big external drive to my computer and moved all of my content off of this machine. This made for a long process, but it gave me the reassurance that I have a backup if I need one. I always try to remember to do this before a mass obliteration of files - and I do have a pile of older, no longer used hard drives hanging around for just such times.
I actually decided to let DIM manage my software as well, since at that point in time, DIM was updated for most Carrara products and Carrara itself. So I went through and stored backups of all of my program folders as well (you never know, right?) and uninstalled Carrara and DAZ Studio and the DAZ CMS. Then I went through and deleted all remaining folders that housed all of this and finally cleaned everything up, including my registry, using C-Cleaner.
I explain all of this in my DAZ 3D Installation Manager 101a video, but many people complain that I put too much music and noise in it. Cest la Vive, eh?
So now I had no traces of my DAZ stuff on my workstation anymore. Weird feelings occur at that point - since the only thing I like about computers is my 3d endeavors.
I fired up the DIM. It checks itself for the latest version, which I always adhere to. As DIM improves, its compatibility to recognize Carrara content also improves.
It was a total blast using DIM to install every single thing that I've ever purchased from DAZ 3D! As seen in the video and explained in my article, I've used the DIM to create my new categories for sorting out my content. This is a huge benefit, as I can now select these categories from the drop-down at the bottom of the window - because I have a check in the "Show Details" box. So I can select all of the products I see for my "Environments" category, select "Environments" from the drop-down, and Start Queue, so that the DIM downloads and installs all of the stuff that I have selected, and it all goes to my Environments runtime.
For everything and anything that has anything to do with Genesis I install to the default "My DAZ 3D Library", but it could be any folder that you tell DIM to use. I like to keep all of that stuff installed to the one category for my own ease of use. If you have other methods, like you want Hair in one, clothing in another, etc., go for it. But I feel that the structure itself does a fine job of sorting this stuff already.
The first time I tried using DIM to install "Everything", I tried using the default library for everything - no separate runtimes. This made a huge mess. Many artists freely add their own folders into the main library on a whim - and it turns the whole thing, in my opinion, into a disaster area. That's my opinion anyways.
So now I use the My DAZ 3D Library for Genesis and any other DAZ 3D Triax figures, like the new DAZ Horse 2, DAZ Big Cat, etc., but nothing else. All prop products, etc., go to a different library. Also, All older-than-Triax people, animals, etc., go into different folders as well. For me, this keeps that one area for only one thing - even though there's a lot to that one thing.
Fact is, we can put this stuff in all different places when we let DIM do it, because it then tells both DS and Carrara what's going on.
A lot to digest, perhaps, but I felt a need to explain myself further to avoid sounding like I'm trying to scold - or worse, appear as if I'm some sort of expert. I'm not. I just thought long and hard about a good process that will work for me - and it has.
DIM is fantastic. It almost always has updates for my products - and I have it at the default that allows it to go ahead and install all updates to where the original files were installed - so I don't have to use the drop-down for updates. Just select them all and run the queue. Sweet!
After that initial Mass install of all of my stuff, which went much faster than I thought it would (no more double-clicking all of those exe files, answering all of the stuff that the installers ask....), it becomes very quick and simple to get the new stuff to where it belongs. Check this out:
Open DIM and say you've got a product ready for download and it has a name that doesn't really tell you exactly what it's for, or what it is. Click the circled "i" icon next to its name, and launch the online ReadMe. That tells you what it is and gives you the main promo image from the store - refreshing the memory of what it is. So then I just select the proper category and run the queue.
Instead od running the queue, you may also just select things from the drop-down and click the individual button to download/install just that one product. Be careful as you might end up clicking the wrong one, if you're doing this multiple times - simply because DIM is so fast, the list changes when you least expect it to! LOL
But another really cool feature is this:
Say you decide later on that you want to make a whole new category, but already have the stuff you want in that category installed somewhere else. You don't want to double up on installs either. What do we do then?
Easy!
You go to the Installed tab
Select everything you want removed from their categories and run the queue, which will uninstall them all.
If the files were deleted upon installation, the products will now appear in the Ready to Download tab instantly as they're uninstalled. If not, they'll instantly appear in the Ready to Install tab.
Now go in and make your new category, select all of these products and the new category, and run the queue!
The names of the actual main folder doesn't matter to Carrara, but the exact structure of what lies within, does.
thanks everyone for trying to help.
i'll be grateful for m5/v5 it bundled and grateful for the flash sale.
i thought i was going to just add my ds runtime and 'boop' that would be it. :lol: gonna take an aspirin lol
Did you read JimmyC's post at the very top of this page? I think he may have found a cure for you
Misty - don't know if this will help, but maybe it will.
Given the way things were going when looking at the changes in DS content folder structure from DS 3x to 4 to 4.5, the way formats for Genesis were changing, the need for a good, clean DS content installation after years of DS dropping stuff in different places with new installs, and the need for proper structure to use Genesis with C8.5, I decided to break down and use DIM and install all my Genesis content where it (DIM) wanted to. I'm really glad I did. I kept my old content folders, because I had projects I still wanted to use that were pointing to content in those locations. I also have separate runtimes for "Poser", or non DS specific content (i.e. V4, Props, Animals, etc.). But making a clean setup for Genesis content with DIM made things much better, and it makes maintaining it with all the new "Starter Essentials" and figure updates that DAZ keeps pushing out much easier to keep up with, install, and uninstall.
I guess what I'm saying is maybe now is the right time for you to do something similar. DS and Genesis/Genesis2 may be working perfectly with your current setup - but when will it "break"? You definitely have an old version of Genesis (the .dsf version) and a new version that you just installed with the latest "essentials" upgrade. This may never cause a problem, it may break with the next version of DS, it may break with the next new G2 character you install, or it may just cause random weirdness and errors that seem to happen for no apparent reason So you can beat the possibilities of future problems by making a brand new installation for Genesis/Genesis2 and related content using DIM, and easily use Carrara with Genesis, while keeping your current content setup intact. The big plus to using DIM to do this is the automated download and installation, and you can easily uninstall everything with DIM if you don't like it .
Yes, I can understand anyone's reluctance to using DIM, as I'm a bit of a control freak myself. But, I've also worked in the IT industry for the last 28 years, and sometimes it's just better to "go with the flow" so to speak. Also, with all the junk left behind by earlier installs of Genesis and DS, making a new, clean data installation can be very beneficial.
Anyway, good luck on whatever you decide to do.
And don't forget the DIM IS configurable...but it's best to do so, before, you start using it to download/install content.
when ds4.62.118 came out, i deleted my existing content folder and redid MyLibrary from scratch, with fresh d/l of all the genesis stuff product library filters could find.
imho. :lol: if it's sooo complicated i need nannyware, then it's too complicated.
keep it kiss - k.i.s.s. - keep it stupid simple - was what my teacher used to say.
this is my third ca version, started with 6. yep. thought i'd give it another go, renders are faster, iirc, faster than luxrender >.<<br /> with C6, first figure i rendered was Aiko3. luv her ♥
C7, first figure i rendered was TY2, with mo and toon goldfish. i think it's still in my rendo gallery.
C85, reached for Aiko5. sigh, i wanted to put her in the future car reshaded with some ca radiosity. once i figured out what radiosity is exactly, lol.
thanks, :)
that screenshot was the freshly d/l-ed genesis essentials to show the genesis.dsf still exists.
my rig is busy luxing, lux capacitor :) 88. point to time warp into the future when the grains will be rendered out.
no opportunity to screenshot yet.
Both DS and Carrara need the Data and Runtime folders to be directly underneath the content folder. What are your content folders in DS?
I know I am late to the party, but I had this issue with Gen2 stuff, the way to sort it is a pain, but simple to do
Open Daz Studio and add the runtime folders of your content to the Poser and Daz folders in the library pane, then tell Daz Studio to update the data base, then when you next go into Carrara and tell it to use any Gen1 or Gen2 stuff you should no longer see that issue