what gpu do i save for?
Sonnyschenkels
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hi, i have a question for everyone here, i am saving for a new gpu to use the iray appication. currently i'm doing renders with my cpu ( ryzen 5 2600X 4.2 ) i wanted to save for a nvidia gpu and i thought i would ask what you guys reccomend me.
the choices i want to save for are ( MAX 300 EURO, i'm no rich boi :D )
| Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1050 Ti | 768 Cuda Cores | 4 GB | price | 141.5 Euro |
| Inno3D GeForce GTX 1650 Compact | 896 Cuda Cores | 4 GB | Price | 154 Euro |
| Inno3D GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER Twin X2 OC | 1280 Cuda Core | 4 GB | Price | 174.90 Euro |
| Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1660 OC | 1408 Cuda Cores | 6 GB | Price | 236.5 Euro |
| Inno3D GeForce GTX 1660 Ti OC | 1536 Cuda Cores | 6 GB | Price | 290 Euro |
or save for this beast ? will take me a long time.
| Inno3D GeForce RTX 2080 Ti iChill Black | 4352 Cuda Cores | 11GB | Price | 1370 Euro |
or just continue doing cpu renders and save for a RTX 2080 ti when the 3xxx Series releases?
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I would definitely skip the 4gb cards. Daz Studio w Iray has increasing demands on memory and many report this, especially on Windows 10. A scene needs to fit on the card, so memory should be your biggest buying factor (especially since every gpu will pretty much be faster than your cpu)
So the bigger your scenes (geometry and textures) , the more memory is used.
For the VRam, reckon on around 2Gb per figure, so if you regularly render 4 figures, it's unlikely a 6 GB card will do it in GPU, but most 3 figure scenes will. Some backdrop scenes are huge and don't fit in my 6Gb GTX1060 with no figures, so assess what you need to do first.
Also consider a second hand card - you get more grunt for your money.
The 6gb 1060 isn't much more than a 4gb 1050, so forget the 1050. Beyond that I can't really comment except to say, last year I bought my 2nd hand 1060 and rarely have moderately simple scenes take more than 10 mins to render, compared to the 50min plus I had in CPU before. I feel happy and didn't break the bank.
Consider a RTX 2070 Super or a RTX 2080 Super. If those are too much money, a RTX 2060 Super is worth saving for.
Manufacturer doesn't matter all that much. Be sure that your case has enough room for the GPUs, particularly 3 fan cards.
I would aim for an RTX card as, in the last few versions of Iray, there has been an additional memory overhead for non-RTX cards as code is loaded to provide equivalent features. Depending on how long it is likely to take you to save you should also bear in mind that there are expected to be new cards this year, which will no doubt offer better performance but which, judging by the previous generations, may well not support Iray for a few months (and it's possible that the current generation will rapidly vanish after the new is launched).
2080ti!
I have one and still struggle with complex scenes, so you will never be happy and always wonder about what could be if you settle with a lower spec card.
I got a 1060 ti- when I first got it I was amazed at the improvement, and scenes that I used to leave over-night were getting finished in 1-2 hours. Recently however, I've started getting crashes, and I still haven't estalished if it's a bug within DAZ, or if I've killed my year-old memory card. I'd suggest saving up more and buying something even beefier.
Consider the RTX 2060 or the RTX 2070 or the Super versions of those GPU that have nothing less than 8GB RAM. That will set you back about $400 - $500 dollars though. By the time you finish saving you might even want to wait to see what nVidia annouces for this year's GPU models as new products.
Crashes or the render dropping to CPU? The latter is not unlikely, depending on what you have in the scene, due to the additional code being added for non-RTX chips in the new versions of Iray.
The latter. I read the bugreport threat and have been trying to narrow down the cause- as far as I can make out it isn't caused by scene size. In fact, the only constant I can establish is that all my crashes have involved previously saved assets, while anything so far that I've built from scratch has been fine.
Okay, thanks everybody! I know what to do now, so best to save for a card with 6 - 8 Gb minimum, also best to see around for a 2de hand one and 1060ti or a 2000 series :)
I certainly would not make a purchase without knowing what AMD has up their sleeve... we'll know more on March 5th.
2nd hand 1070.
Iray can't use AMD card though...
I second skipping the 4GB cards. I have one now and anything that looks half way decent in Daz3D usually drops to CPU because it runs out of VRAM. I think somewhere in the forum says 2GB of any GPU is needed by Windows and Daz which leaves only 2GB for the scene in a 4GB card, which is not much.
I will definitely wait for the new cards. After a few years of stagnating GPU memory spec, all indications is that this year we will see a bump beause new gaming consoles are coming out. For Daz GPU rendering VRAM capacity is more important than anything.
I am running multiple, 1070, 1070ti and 1080ti. what ever you get you want atleast 8gb, I use to have some 4gb cards in my setup (ran 6 cards at one point) but after awhile they became useless because my scenes surpassed the 4gb pretty fast.
I would recommend 1070 and above and the 20## generation cards as long as they have 8gb or more. all do well respectivly, just wish that ram issue didint happen with that last update. (any one know why the last update went from needing 6gb ram to render a 6gb scene to needing 6gb ram PER CARD for the same scene.. i need more ram, lol )
Second this suggestion. I have one of these and while not top of the line, it works decently, and you can get one for pretty cheap now off ebay. Just make sure to deal with a reputable seller. It's your best bet for an 8 Gb card right now, and it will hold you until RTX or better cards become more reasonable and you have a bigger nest egg.
Got a lead on 2 thx 780ti with 2880 cud's each for 220 is it good ? To use they are each 3gb
Additional code for non-RTX chips as in support for Optix Prime Acceleration, and no ray tracing? Anything else? Thanks Richard.
You still only have 3GB to render. It won't be enough. Haven't you read any of the responses? You can get a single RTX 2070 Super for just a little more or a RTX 2060 Super for a little less. They will both be faster than the 780TI, even if you can manage a scene in 3GB Vram.
Yeah, I know I read all the reactions, I just thought that it would be good to ask. And no your right. Got the prices 331 for a 2060 mini, 541 for a 2060 super or 645 for a 2070 super. Also what would you do, buy it now or wait until the 3xxx Series are released ? I just want your opinion. I los thanks for the strong and firm answer.
Just bear in mnd that the last two generations, 10x0 and 20x0, there has been a wait between hardware release and Iray support - a long wait for the 10x0 crds, a shorter wait for the 20x0 cards but that was initially just to get themn working at all, taking full advantage of the new features took longer (the new cards were faster than the old anyway, but to the enxtent they would be once there was support for the ewn features).
Is IRAY not an option on AMD cards?
I was reading about them here: https://www.pcworld.com/article/3531413/amd-cdna-compute-gpus-radeon-rdna-graphics-cards.html