daz studio is very laggy in win10

Everything is slow. Trying to move to a different frame in timeline, takes like 10 seconds to do it after I click. Hell, even just clicking on minimized DS in task bar, I click on it, and it does nothing for 5 seconds then the program window pops back up. Sometimes I think the click didnt register, and end up clicking it a second time, then it pops up as a tiny window instead of full screen. Is this an annoyance I need to just learn to live with? Photoshop, blender, firefox, zbrush, marvelous designer, none of these programs are lagging like that. Those are the only programs I have been using so far since having to "upgrade" to win10 ~3 weeks ago.On win 1809 right now, later I am thinking of wiping that out and trying a clean 1909 install later today. This OS is just a damn nuisance so far. My PC isn't an old potato either, I just built it last year. b450 aurus pro mobo, ryzen 2600x, 32GB ram, 960 evo SSD for OS and installed programs. Running DS 4.12.1.55     

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  • Hi

    Have you tried to update to the latest video card driver for your system? It seemed to help others in a similar situtation.

  • TheKDTheKD Posts: 2,696
    edited February 2020

    you mean the game ready one? I am on the latest studio driver now. 442.19

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  • Good I also have that version and I use the studio driver too. I'm sorry you're having so much lag. Do you think you might have a open app somewhere running as well?

  • PaintboxPaintbox Posts: 1,633
    edited February 2020

    There is also the performance check in Edit > Preferences > Interface > Current Hardware Features...  , see if in the window that opens your GPU Card is visible. If it is not, Daz Studio is not using it to speed up your viewport.

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  • TBorNotTBorNot Posts: 370

    The version checks at startup, but why doesn't it say. "Oh, by the way, Windows says you have a video card, but, I don't see it.  Choose one:  Panic Despair"

     

  • TheKDTheKD Posts: 2,696
    edited February 2020

    Good I also have that version and I use the studio driver too. I'm sorry you're having so much lag. Do you think you might have a open app somewhere running as well?

    Got a few other programs open,blender and photoshop, that was never a problem in win7. Win10 is really bad at handling multiple open programs? 

    There is also the performance check in Edit > Preferences > Interface > Current Hardware Features...  , see if in the window that opens your GPU Card is visible. If it is not, Daz Studio is not using it to speed up your viewport.

    Looks right to me, It shows that it's using my 2080 super for openGL. I forgot to mention my GPU's in my initial post, have a 2080 super and a 1070 in this rig.

     

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  • TheKDTheKD Posts: 2,696

    Well, I ended up installing win10 1909 fresh after reformatting my SSD, didn't have time to install DS yet and test any though, will have to do that tomorrow, hopefully the crazy lag will be a thing of the past.

  • TheKDTheKD Posts: 2,696
    edited March 2020

    Now that I have had today to play around, it's a tiny bit better after install, but still laggy as hell doing just about anything. Last thing, I was baking a keyframe to animate timeline, no actual animation, just the T pose to use as transition. Took ten minutes to do that. I can't perview any aniblocks, it just hangs and goes to not responding mode. Trying to scrub through timeline always sucked for me, but animate used to work pretty well.

     

    Also, I recall another user here was saying that the daz studio process never seems to stop, and had to use task manager to stop it, I am running into that issue now as well. I quit DS, then went out for a few hours, got back and tried to open the scene I was working on. The DS executable was just doing nothing, checked task manager, and it was still open taking 6 gb of RAM, had to kill it so I could open DS back up and continue my work.

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  • prixatprixat Posts: 1,590

    I had to remove the (free) Octane plugin to get DAZ to shutdown properly.

  • PaintboxPaintbox Posts: 1,633

    How is the rest of your system doing? Diagnostics? 
     

    Sounds like it could very well be something else thats throttling?

  • TheKDTheKD Posts: 2,696
    edited March 2020
    prixat said:

    I had to remove the (free) Octane plugin to get DAZ to shutdown properly.

    Ah, I do have that installed, You had to remove it completely, or just disable it?

     

     

    Paintbox said:

    How is the rest of your system doing? Diagnostics? 
     

    Sounds like it could very well be something else thats throttling?

    Far as I can tell it's doing OK. Haven't had a whole lot of free time lately, but I have been working in MD and it seems to be doing OK. Will run some benchmarks tonight, see how it is doing after I finish puttin my arrangement points on my mannequin lol. Such a tedious process, will be glad when that is over!

     

    Novabench Score: 2794  A bit lower than when I was running win7, but not looking that bad either.

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  • CyberdeneCyberdene Posts: 72
    edited March 2020

    I wish I had Windows 7 still, Windows 10 have way too many processors running, like over 151 and I have reason to believe it contributes a lot to How DAZ operates I didnt get the chance to even test DAZ/IRAY on my other machine cause it has a outdated graphic card. The one I use now has a 2070 and I have noticed performance issues, which I will blame mostly on all the processors Windows 10 runs which can cause some serious slow and lagging to even full freezing up.

    Windows 7 only had 31 processors. If I had the money I'd get a new machine with Windows 7, I definately dont recommend anyone to upgrade to 10 if your going to use DAZ/IRAY. Since Daz is the only program on my machine that uses the most resources. Windows 7 might be a benefit than a hindurance like 10 is.

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  • TheKDTheKD Posts: 2,696

    Yeah, agreed. Win7 doesn't have support on a lot of new hardware unfortunately. The first time I was able to slipstream drivers into my win7 installer to get it on this rig, the mobo didn't have drivers for the LAN line though, so had to buy an adapter for LAN to usb 3.1 For some dumb reason, win7 won't install again though, so after a week of banging my head against the keyboard, I installed 10. Even after using OOSU10 and blackbird to strip crap I don't want or need like data mining and cortana there is still 46 backround processes running on enterprise.

  • takezo_3001takezo_3001 Posts: 1,997

    Serious lag if you have anything fitted to the model, My work-a-round has been to batch unfit everything (Even eyebrows/lashes)>pose>animate> then re-fit for the final render... it's irritating but unless you have a super-computer then that's what needs to be done!

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