Found a problem with posing when turning off limits for all body parts of G8F.

Flortale

Can you guys please confirm the problem?

First, let's demonstrate normal, proper hand translation movement behavior.

1. Start a new DAZ scene.
2. Load G8F.
3. Turn IK off with CTRL K.
4. Select the Translation tool.
5. Select G8F's hand and begin moving it along X, Y, or Z axis.

You should notice everything is smooth and working fine.

Now try this:

1. Select the hip of G8F and choose select children, which selects all G8F's body parts.
2. Cick Edit-> Figure -> Limits -> Limits Off , there will be a delay of a few seconds.
3. With all the body parts still selected, click Edit-> Figure -> Limits -> Limits On, once again a few seconds delay.
4. Note: All we've done is turn limits off then on, no big deal right?
5. Select the hand and try to move it via the translation tool, you're going to notice it's completely messed up now and doesn't work nearly as properly prior to messing with the limits.

Why does this happen and how can I restore G8F to it's original limit settings?  Restore Figure, Pose or Shape doesn't work. Restoring original rigging doesn't work either. I was forced to load a new G8F and transfer all my work to this new G8F, because the G8F I was working on is broken because of messing with the limits, so finding a solution to this would be great just in case it happens again. I'm worried if I turn limits off when applying poses, it's going to eventually break my ability to move the hand properly with the translaton tool, foricng me to transfer all clothing, surfaces, mats to a new G8F, which is extremely annoying.

Richard Haseltine

I'm not sure why that is happening, at a guess turning limits off allowed some linked property to assume an undesirable value which restoring limits didn't (fully) override, but in general I would not advise turning limits off across the whole figure as there are certainly ways in which that can cause issues.

Flortale

Richard Haseltine said:

I'm not sure why that is happening

Just curious, did you test it yourself and confirm the problem?

at a guess turning limits off allowed some linked property to assume an undesirable value which restoring limits didn't (fully) override, but in general I would not advise turning limits off across the whole figure as there are certainly ways in which that can cause issues.

I definitely won't be doing that again.  I wish I knew what the culrpit was exactly because anytime you apply poses in general, it will ask if you want to turn limits off, and I'm worried if I answer yes it could trigger the problem again.

Flortale

I don't mean to bump the post, but I need a solution. I'm worried if I apply a pose, in which the pose asks me to turn off limits, it might break my G8F again and prevent me from being able to move the hand properly with the translation tool.