No DAZ Library. No nothing.

spearcarrierspearcarrier Posts: 686
edited December 1969 in Technical Help (nuts n bolts)

I just reinstalled Windows 7 because my renders were fubarred and today while working not only did renders that were still good suddenly go fubarred, they looked diseased.

I just installed a fresh copy of DAZ 6 pro.

It opens. It loads.

Content Manager is running. But it acts like it's not.

Please help. Cry.

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  • frank0314frank0314 Posts: 14,056
    edited December 1969

    How are you installing your content? Manually of with DIM. If your doing it manually you may need to reimport your metadata. If you browse to you content library tab do you see the packs or is it the smart content isn't showing?

  • JimmyC_2009JimmyC_2009 Posts: 8,891
    edited December 1969

    If you have no content showing in the Content Library, then you may have to tell DAZ Studio where the content is installed to.

    Go to Edit > Preferences > Content Library > Content Directory Manager, and make sure that your content library is listed as BOTH DAZ Studio Formats and Poser Formats there.

  • spearcarrierspearcarrier Posts: 686
    edited December 1969

    Yes, all the content is linked properly. But you know how DAZ acts when CMS is not running? That's how it's acting... with CMS running. So it's not even trying to find metadata or look in the proper folder. Or anything.

    I've reinstalled dozens of times according to DAZ instructions. Nothing is working.

  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    That very well could mean your Database file has a error, that can happen. Is all your Base files CMS, DIM and DAZ Studio installed default? If so they should read properly. If not they (CMS or DIM) might be pointing to the wrong place.

  • spearcarrierspearcarrier Posts: 686
    edited April 2014

    Well I even delete all of the cms files from the intended folder and it won't build new. It goes through the process of collecting metadata, which is finds, but no categories are made. Nothing. I'm tired of reinstalling this stupid thing telling it over and over and over telling it where to point. I can only check the library in DAZ itself, and it says it's pointing to the right place. I don't know what else to do.

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  • mjc1016mjc1016 Posts: 15,001
    edited April 2014

    What anti-virus are you running?

    There's a chance that it can be blocking the CMS from working properly...you may need to specifically allow the CMS in your AV program.

    Also there is a chance that it can be a permissions problem...what are your user account permissions, in the account you have installed DS in?

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  • spearcarrierspearcarrier Posts: 686
    edited December 1969

    Well I haven't installed any antivirus yet. DAZ is literally the first thing I'm trying to install.

    I wouldn't know how to set permissions on the thing, but I'm telling things to run as administrator manually.

  • spearcarrierspearcarrier Posts: 686
    edited December 1969

    I just tried pointing it to a new directory. I thought the database was only some content files. It tried copying over every single folder in that drive into the folder I pointed it to and then crashed.

  • namffuaknamffuak Posts: 4,146
    edited December 1969

    I just tried pointing it to a new directory. I thought the database was only some content files. It tried copying over every single folder in that drive into the folder I pointed it to and then crashed.

    OK, let's try this a step at a time, because it sounds like you missed a key step.

    Make sure that both DAZ studio and DIM (if you're using it) are shut down.

    Then stop the DAZ Content Management Service. Either from control panel -> administrative tools -> services, select DAZ Content Management Services, click on 'stop the service' or from windows start -> all programs -> DAZ 3D -> DAZ Content Management Service -> stop DAZ Content Management Service.

    Now check the directory that the CMS should be using; there should be five files - a 'master.vdb' and four ContentDB. files. Delete them. If you deleted them before, they should still be gone.

    Back to the CMS service - start it. This should create a new 'master.vdb' file in your directory.

    Now you can start DAZ Studio and re-import your metadata; this will rebuild the database.

    The key thing to remember is to stop the service before doing anything to the database files.

  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited April 2014

    Yes that should work... and here is more info that may help.

    By Default the CMS database lives on a Win OS here C:\ProgramData\DAZ 3D\Content Management Services\databases
    ProgramData is a Hidden folder and will not be seen until a user sets folder options to Show Hidden. That folder will hold the Bad database if the Folder location was not changed at the time of the CMS install.

    The default DIM location of files is C:\Users\Public\Public Documents\DAZ 3D\Install Manager in it will be the Default Downloads folder unless changed by the user in the DIM settings and the the Manifest Folder. The Downloads folder is were the DIM zip files will be stored until they are installed using DIM. The Manifest folder holds the dsx files that tell DIM a item has been installed and is what is checked for to see if a Updated file is ready for DIM.

    And Of course the Default DIM content folder is C:\Users\Public\Documents\My DAZ 3D Library.

    The metadata is Read by the CMS and added to the Database. If you try to Add metadata to a blown database file it will fail as the file is already bad and unreadable. It can and often does get so bad it can even Crash the CMS service and turn it off. From what I have read that is not your issue. To create a New Database you have two options. One is to First do a Reset DataBase in the Content DB Maintenance menu and then do a full Re-Import of Metadata. OR delete the bad Database file from the Drive and then create a new one with Re-Import MetaData.

    If neither one works then the only way to slove this will be to know all the paths all the above are now using on your PC.

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  • spearcarrierspearcarrier Posts: 686
    edited December 1969

    No I haven't missed a single step. I'm pretty sure.

    Following the explicit instructions on how to install and uninstall I have reinstalled DAZ and CMS more than 15 times now. I have reinstalled Windows twice.

    Upon each re-install I have specifically told DAZ the library is NOT in the default folder. I hate those default folders with a passion. I hate keeping anything on my C drive with a passion. It invites disaster and data loss when you do that. So the library has been told to go to E:/DAZ

    CMS has been told consistently to also use E:DAZ. I know this works because I've been using this same configuration for over a year. Basically when I reinstalled I set things up the way it was before using the same steps I always have before. I've went through this process a million times as Jaderail can vouche for! LOL... I did try to tell it C drive once, and it still didn't run.

    In an attempt to get CMS to actually *work* I just uninstalled and reinstalled, telling it to go to E:/3Database

    After the time CMS tried to copy over and entire terrabyte's worth of data and crashed, I redownloaded DAZ and used that for this last install.

    Still no results. CMS is refusing to run. Period. I can't even create an empty category. It'll import metadata, sure, but it doesn't KEEP said data.

    I'd love to look at this hidden folder, but folks keep saying "it's hidden" and I can't find instructions on how to get to it so it shall remain a mystery for now. =^-^= The husband is offering to unhide things. Imagine that. A spouse not keeping secrets.

  • spearcarrierspearcarrier Posts: 686
    edited December 1969

    The hidden folder bore no such animals. So the puter remains clean of the usual suspects.

  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    The hidden folder bore no such animals. So the puter remains clean of the usual suspects.
    As you have put CMS on E and told it to use E it should live there. I'm lost without sitting down at the PC and seeing the folders myself at this point.
  • spearcarrierspearcarrier Posts: 686
    edited December 1969

    Alas I knew this day would come. Poser will want me back. Maybe... ;-)

  • namffuaknamffuak Posts: 4,146
    edited December 1969

    Like Jaderail, I R Confuse.

    First of all, re-installing DAZ Studio shouldn't be necessary and really shouldn't have any bearing on CMS issues.

    When you install the CMS it wants two paths - the first for the executable code, the second for the database. Just on general principles I wouldn't use the same path for both.

    In my case, I have D:\CMS for the code and D:\CMS-DB for the database. The CMS service should start as soon as CMS is installed and create the master.vdb file in your CMS database directory. Does this happen? If not, your system is not allowing the service to start correctly and you'll need to look at the system event logs and the log CMS creates in the vlogs directory of the CMS executables.

    If the master.vdb does create then running either DIM or DAZ Studio should cause the four ContentDB files to be created. Again, if this does not happen you can look at either the DAZ studio log or the DIM log to see if errors have been logged.

    It has been my experience that you can re-import your metadata in DAZ Studio even if Studio was unable to connect to the CMS. And this will run quite fast; in my case, 4,600 items in about 2 minutes. :-)

  • spearcarrierspearcarrier Posts: 686
    edited December 1969

    I never get metadata for everything in my library. Just a few. Well, some of the library are things I made. But much of it is just flat old stuff. Or free stuff from sharecg. I depend on personalization of the library, as well. The key word thing? A big fat joke for people who think like I do. I have folders for this comic and folders for that, etc. Metadata only creates drama as you can see.

    It's working now.I truly wish I could post the problem and solution but my husband fixed it while I slept. (Having a fever didn't help.) I asked him what was wrong and he said he didn't know, he just fought with it until it gave in.

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