product to inj face rigging to V4 and M4

Mistara

product to inj face rigging to V4 and M4

and mil3 would be nice too.

 

WendyLuvsCatz

the mesh needs to be unwelded

you can actually use the transfer utility on all of them using clones but mouths are welded shut, eyeballs welded to sockets etc

just the skins work somewhat better

Richard Haseltine

You can't inject new bones, and the rules on parenting in legacy rigging might well block the project from the outset.

WendyLuvsCatz

I did autofit m4 with all his morphs++ etc injected to Genesis 3 once, 

hid genesis 3

if you ignored facial animation for mouth and eyes with bones and used his morphs instead most other stuff works quite well including genesis 3 morphs on the mesh

the face bones have the welding issue for mouth and eyes
I used that to export an obj for morphloader on M4 to transfer morphs from genesis 3 to M4

so it could be done if the welding issue could be solved not m4 skeleton though

Mistara

WendyLuvsCatz said:

the mesh needs to be unwelded

you can actually use the transfer utility on all of them using clones but mouths are welded shut, eyeballs welded to sockets etc

just the skins work somewhat better

i cant work out how they rigged the eye lids?  the eyelid skin has to fold.  did they start with closed eyes

the poser heirarchy needs to see the eyelids split into 3 body parts.

Mistara

its seems more like merging separately rigged figures.

parenting a figure to a figure, was how the victorian street shoppes was set up.  each building was a figure.

cant be done inside poser.  a mystery how they did it.  unless they manually edited cr2

Mistara

WendyLuvsCatz said:

I did autofit m4 with all his morphs++ etc injected to Genesis 3 once, 

hid genesis 3

if you ignored facial animation for mouth and eyes with bones and used his morphs instead most other stuff works quite well including genesis 3 morphs on the mesh

the face bones have the welding issue for mouth and eyes
I used that to export an obj for morphloader on M4 to transfer morphs from genesis 3 to M4

so it could be done if the welding issue could be solved not m4 skeleton though

mebbe they started with the mouth open, closed it after the verts were assigned.

WendyLuvsCatz

Mystiarra said:

WendyLuvsCatz said:

I did autofit m4 with all his morphs++ etc injected to Genesis 3 once, 

hid genesis 3

if you ignored facial animation for mouth and eyes with bones and used his morphs instead most other stuff works quite well including genesis 3 morphs on the mesh

the face bones have the welding issue for mouth and eyes
I used that to export an obj for morphloader on M4 to transfer morphs from genesis 3 to M4

so it could be done if the welding issue could be solved not m4 skeleton though

mebbe they started with the mouth open, closed it after the verts were assigned.

yeah was way I actually rerigged the subdivided marsh monster for iclone, baked rotations on mouth for obj mesh and the target skeleton figure

I used the other figures internals just his skin and eyes

but that for strictly my own use in renders obviously 

fixmypcmike

What is it that you are trying to accomplish?

Mistara

Fixmypcmike said:

What is it that you are trying to accomplish?

bones for the eyebrow ridge, upper and lower eyelids, cheekbones, chin bones, upper lip and lower lip, ear bones, nose bones

fixmypcmike

Mystiarra said:

Fixmypcmike said:

What is it that you are trying to accomplish?

bones for the eyebrow ridge, upper and lower eyelids, cheekbones, chin bones, upper lip and lower lip, ear bones, nose bones

I get that, but what are you trying to retain from the Mil4 and Mil3 figures.

Mistara

i want to keep my  characters presets, but i like the elegance of rotation animated face posing to linear morphs movements.
also great for face sculping.non symmetrical face structure

 

toothless in the dragon movie had over 6000 controls

fixmypcmike

Mystiarra said:

i want to keep my  characters presets, but i like the elegance of rotation animated face posing to linear morphs movements.
also great for face sculping.non symmetrical face structure

 

toothless in the dragon movie had over 6000 controls

I don't think you'd be able to keep your character presets, because the mesh has changed.  You would need to transfer them the way we already do with the Genesis figures.

Mistara

Fixmypcmike said:

Mystiarra said:

i want to keep my  characters presets, but i like the elegance of rotation animated face posing to linear morphs movements.
also great for face sculping.non symmetrical face structure

 

toothless in the dragon movie had over 6000 controls

I don't think you'd be able to keep your character presets, because the mesh has changed.  You would need to transfer them the way we already do with the Genesis figures.

face rig for gn1 and 2 would be nice too.

i've used gianni6 as a base for several home spun chars

 

Mistara

it would havve to start with eyelids closed?! wouldnt it??

how would you uv map an eyelid if the mesh doesnt start that way?

Richard Haseltine

Mystiarra said:

it would havve to start with eyelids closed?! wouldnt it??

how would you uv map an eyelid if the mesh doesnt start that way?

UVing can be done on a non-default shape.