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HeadShop 13 submitted to DAZ (Commercial)

info_b3470fa520info_b3470fa520 Posts: 895
edited May 2020 in Daz PA Commercial Products

We are happy to let you know that HeadShop 13, our next major milestone in development, is entering beta testing.

HeadShop 13 is a software product used to automatically create 3D heads from photographs.It is used inside DAZ Studio as a plugin. It works with Genesis 3 and 8 figures. HeadShop 13 is outputting a modified morph OBJ file and 4096×4096 texture files. HeadShop has been in development since 2007 and regularly introduces features not found in other photo-to-3D software.

What is new in HeadShop 13?

  • HS 13 adds a new easy-to-use Profile” tab to create nose shapes
  • HS13 integrates LoveChild, an additional piece of sophisticated software that allows the morphing between two photos to create a third image. A slider can regulate the degree of resemblance to one or the other photo.
  • HS 13 introduces much improved texture blending that samples 3 separate point of skin surface.
  • HS 13 also generates full body textures and a wrinkle „bump” map.

In addition, HeadShop 13 features a number of break-trough technologies that cannot be found in other similar programs. See Previous Post – White Paper.

 

See „How-to” video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5IhOtNPzhI&t

Preliminary Manual: HS13 Manual

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Comments

  • PaintboxPaintbox Posts: 1,633

    Looking forward to this solution, it would be nice if the texture could also be balanced (remove hightlights and shadows) since espeically in the third those are very visible.

    Also how does it look if you use a high res source texture?  Maybe a face from https://www.3d.sk/ for example?

  • info_b3470fa520info_b3470fa520 Posts: 895
    edited May 2020

    The two images were also high-res sources (4165x4165). In regard to remove highlights, we do have a mirror-texture function, where one side of the head that has better texture than the other can mirrored. Uniquelly, HeadShop also features a retouch brush in the Color Tab, the only one such among "Photo-to-3DHead" software. Still, it is a good suggestion for HS14:-)

    Thanks for your comment!

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  • sterlenejcsterlenejc Posts: 178
    Just a silly question: now that we have a couple of programs/pmugins to convert images to faces, is it even possible to create something to convert images into body shape? It's quite unlikely, but if possible, it would come in handy...
  • info_b3470fa520info_b3470fa520 Posts: 895

    It is an interesting idea. In theory it is possible, but there are many problems. HeadShop, for example, uses an Algorithm that automatically detects 50 significant points that build the eyes, nose, mouth and jaw shape. This is important as to make the capture of these points automatic saves work and time for the user. No such a auto-capture is available for the body. The easiest would be to prepare a bunch of pre-made morphs that would mimick the different types of breast, shoulders, etc. Some of these moprhs are already built into DAZ Studio, but users must manually dial-spin.

     

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,462
    edited May 2020

    Hi, I see, that the seam on the neck, around the ear and on the head is still there.

    Do you have a plan to fix it in the future, or you think it is insignificant for the software to do

    and leave it to users, if they wish to fix the issue themselves?

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  • info_b3470fa520info_b3470fa520 Posts: 895
    edited May 2020
    Artini said:

    Hi, I see, that the seam on the neck, around the ear and on the head is still there.

     

     

    What you see is a rough preview in HeadShop, without the new Back-of-head, Ear or Neck textures applied. Once exported into DAZ Studio and all textures applied, the seams dissappear.

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  • PaintboxPaintbox Posts: 1,633
    info_b3470fa520 said:

    The two images were also high-res sources (4165x4165). In regard to remove highlights, we do have a mirror-texture function, where one side of the head that has better texture than the other can mirrored. Uniquelly, HeadShop also features a retouch brush in the Color Tab, the only one such among "Photo-to-3DHead" software. Still, it is a good suggestion for HS14:-)

    Thanks for your comment!

    That is good to hear! Something like a tone equalizer would be very handy, allthough you if you want really good results you always have to prep your source I guess.

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,462
    info_b3470fa520 said:
    Artini said:

    Hi, I see, that the seam on the neck, around the ear and on the head is still there.

     

     

    What you see is a rough preview in HeadShop, without the new Back-of-head, Ear or Neck textures applied. Once exported into DAZ Studio and all textures applied, the seams dissappear.

    Ok, great to know. I am looking forward to the release, then,

  • dragotxdragotx Posts: 1,138
    Will this work with studio installs that are not default c: locations? I have every aspect of studio installed onto a separate drive, and know this was a problem for a previous version. Has that been fixed?
  • info_b3470fa520info_b3470fa520 Posts: 895
    dragotx said:
    Will this work with studio installs that are not default c: locations? I have every aspect of studio installed onto a separate drive, and know this was a problem for a previous version. Has that been fixed?

    It was working and will also work with DAZ Studio non-standard installations, such as when Studio or Libraries installed on drives other than c:. What is required is that DAZ is installed in one self-contained folder called "DAZ 3D" in which reside the full DAZStudio4 subfolder containing the full app. HeadShop installer can be directed to install the "HeadShop plugin" folder into "DAZ 3D" folder. (There's one requirement that involves the c: drive; HeadShop writes "temp" files into DAZ default location to C:/Users/username/AppData/Roaming/DAZ 3D/Studio4/temp).

    Also see "How-to" install video

  • zx96zx96 Posts: 13

    One question, I have just bought today HS12, without knowing the next version was shortly coming. 

    So I wonder, would HS13 be a free update for whoever just bought v12 or would it be an upgrade to be paid for?

    It seems an exciting upgrade and thanks

  • dragotxdragotx Posts: 1,138
    info_b3470fa520 said:
    dragotx said:
    Will this work with studio installs that are not default c: locations? I have every aspect of studio installed onto a separate drive, and know this was a problem for a previous version. Has that been fixed?

    It was working and will also work with DAZ Studio non-standard installations, such as when Studio or Libraries installed on drives other than c:. What is required is that DAZ is installed in one self-contained folder called "DAZ 3D" in which reside the full DAZStudio4 subfolder containing the full app. HeadShop installer can be directed to install the "HeadShop plugin" folder into "DAZ 3D" folder. (There's one requirement that involves the c: drive; HeadShop writes "temp" files into DAZ default location to C:/Users/username/AppData/Roaming/DAZ 3D/Studio4/temp).

    Also see "How-to" install video

    While that's an improvement over forcing the isntallation of Studio to be on C:, it still means this program is completely unusuable for me, and anyone that configures their install manually. 

  • info_b3470fa520info_b3470fa520 Posts: 895
    edited May 2020
    dragotx said:

    While that's an improvement over forcing the isntallation of Studio to be on C:, it still means this program is completely unusuable for me, and anyone that configures their install manually. 

    How is that so? Our experience is that half of our users do install HeadShop on drives other than c: - without any issue. Pls. elaborate...

    Also, I do not recall receiving a request for skype/tech support at info@abalonellc.com

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  • RobotHeadArtRobotHeadArt Posts: 917
    info_b3470fa520 said:
    dragotx said:

    While that's an improvement over forcing the isntallation of Studio to be on C:, it still means this program is completely unusuable for me, and anyone that configures their install manually. 

    How is that so? Our experience is that half of our users do install HeadShop on drives other than c: - without any issue. Pls. elaborate...

    Also, I do not recall receiving a request for skype/tech support at info@abalonellc.com

    Users want the plugin to work if their temp folder isn't on C:.  FluidOS plugin is able to cope with writing temporary files to the user's temp folder that resides at a non-default location so this isn't a limitation of the DAZ API.

  • dragotxdragotx Posts: 1,138
    info_b3470fa520 said:
    dragotx said:

    While that's an improvement over forcing the isntallation of Studio to be on C:, it still means this program is completely unusuable for me, and anyone that configures their install manually. 

    How is that so? Our experience is that half of our users do install HeadShop on drives other than c: - without any issue. Pls. elaborate...

    Also, I do not recall receiving a request for skype/tech support at info@abalonellc.com

    The requirement for studio to be in a folder named Daz3d, as I do not have that nomenclature anywhere in my studio software install, only in the library itself. Additionally, I do not have a temp folder on C:, I have mine set to a separate location as well. Every plugin I have used with studio works fine with my setup, the only one I have run into that does is headshop (granted that was several versions ago when the app did not work at all if your install wasn't on C). It has been years since I have seen any app that wasn't an a temporary app written for a specific enterprise server that actually cares where it is installed, as long as it's files are in a structure it expects to find them in. I was really hoping this version would be clear if such restrictions, but if it isn't then I will have to pass on this one as well.
  • DkgooseDkgoose Posts: 1,451

    looks great in cart debating on buying...will there be an upgrade coming for "headshop for genesis 8" or would it be better to just buy the full version? 

  • Charlie JudgeCharlie Judge Posts: 12,740
    edited June 2020

    Since I already owned HS12, I bought and installed the upgrade version of HS 13. There may be a small bug. When I use it to load an obj that I created with HS 13 in a previous session of DS it displays an error message that says I am attempting to load an object not created in HeadShop. If I load the morph anyway it does seem to work OK; BUT the message is a bit disconcerting

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  • Kokinme FukutaroKokinme Fukutaro Posts: 2

    Acccording to the product manual, the installation file of Headshop13 should consist of the following 2zip files, but only HS13full.zip is provided. morpher.zip is missing.

                 HS13full.zip & morpher.zip

    Where is morpher.zip? There is only one zip file (HS13full.zip)  in my product library.

     

  • Charlie JudgeCharlie Judge Posts: 12,740
    sean.hawkeyes_38370ae43c said:

    Acccording to the product manual, the installation file of Headshop13 should consist of the following 2zip files, but only HS13full.zip is provided. morpher.zip is missing.

                 HS13full.zip & morpher.zip

    Where is morpher.zip? There is only one zip file (HS13full.zip)  in my product library.

     

    Did you buy the full version or the upgrade version? I bought the upgrade version and I have downloads for both files. 

  • JackReasonJackReason Posts: 144

    Does this work on a MAC? I have the standalone version for MAC. Can I buy just the upgrade and have it work?

  • Kokinme FukutaroKokinme Fukutaro Posts: 2
    Charlie Judge said:
    sean.hawkeyes_38370ae43c said:

    Acccording to the product manual, the installation file of Headshop13 should consist of the following 2zip files, but only HS13full.zip is provided. morpher.zip is missing.

                 HS13full.zip & morpher.zip

    Where is morpher.zip? There is only one zip file (HS13full.zip)  in my product library.

     

    Did you buy the full version or the upgrade version? I bought the upgrade version and I have downloads for both files. 

    I bought the full version. So, differnet situation from you? 

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,462

    Does anybody tried it?

    I would like to see some renders - especially from the side and without the hair.

     

  • ArtMadeonArtMadeon Posts: 17

    Hi @info_b3470fa520. I purchased this in the recent sale, however I'm getting an error when I try to run it.  I'm able to open the initial dialog, and choose an image ... however as soon as I try to adjust the points on the face, I get the following error:

    See the end of this message for details on invoking 
    just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.

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    System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
       at RH.Core.Controls.frmNewProject4PrintAhead.RecalcRealTemplateImagePosition() in C:\projects\headshop\source\LLC-HS12_Gen8_src\LLC-HS12_Gen8_src\RH.Core\Controls\frmNewProject4PrintAhead.cs:line 872
       at RH.Core.Controls.frmNewProject4PrintAhead.pictureTemplate_MouseMove(Object sender, MouseEventArgs e) in C:\projects\headshop\source\LLC-HS12_Gen8_src\LLC-HS12_Gen8_src\RH.Core\Controls\frmNewProject4PrintAhead.cs:line 461
       at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnMouseMove(MouseEventArgs e)
       at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseMove(Message& m)
       at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
       at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
       at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
       at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)


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  • info_b3470fa520info_b3470fa520 Posts: 895

    This is not a place for tech support. Please send us an email at info@abalonellc.com and we will set up a support call and should be able to fix your problem.

  • michiliemichilie Posts: 3

    Hey,

    is there a chance of getting a trial-Version anywhere?

     

  • ramondo.robinsonramondo.robinson Posts: 0

    info_b3470fa520 said:

    This is not a place for tech support. Please send us an email at info@abalonellc.com and we will set up a support call and should be able to fix your problem.

    Any chance you could set up support for me...I contacted you some time ago. Thanks!

     

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