I seriously just asked myself "but how do they make that rotobot stand up"

StratDragonStratDragon Posts: 3,253
edited May 2020 in The Commons

https://www.daz3d.com/b-23-robot

I looked at this and thought to myself what would be involved with making this stand upright in Studio.
Thats a thing that just happened.

In my defense I have gulped down only one of many coffees this morning.

 

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  • richardandtracyrichardandtracy Posts: 5,959

    And turning would be an interesting exercise with one flat cross section wheel. Unicycles can turn due to CG transfer and a curved cross section wheel. I suppose it could be done with a torque reaction internal gyro, but there are easier ways of doing it. I have precisely the same reservations about the Segway; An exceedingly clever, high tech, energy intensive, design intensive, resource intensive solution solving a problem a bicycle solved 150 years ago with virtually no technology, little resources, small design effort and zero non-renewable energy input. In my view, the Segway is a solution still looking for a problem that hasn't yet been solved.

     

  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,067

    Wait... are you using the version of DS with iGravity™or TruPhysics™?... Those won't come out for at least ten years or so... Dude the number one rule of time travel is not to take stuff back with you... and the second is not to openly allude to possession of temporally displaced items... and the third rule... it had something to do with coffee, but I wasn't listening... I had finished my coffee yet.

    Well, I hardly think at this point you could eff up this timeline any worse than it's already been, so at this point it's a moot point...

    Moot... 

    Sounds like something a cow would say...

    I wonder what other words we use that cows came up with?

    I'll look into that after I have my coffee.

     

    Side note on the robots... I wonder if the modeler did it on purpose, but "Do Not Play on or around" stickers are usually found on dumpsters... it made me smile.

  • MelissaGTMelissaGT Posts: 2,611

    This robot appears to be a nod to the Victor/Securitron from Fallout: New Vegas. 

  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 15,225

    someone had to post a unicycle video - guess it is going to be me.

  • gaebelgaebel Posts: 5

    This robot appears to be a nod to the Victor/Securitron from Fallout: New Vegas. 

    Or to Claptrap from Borderlands.

     

  • Ghosty12Ghosty12 Posts: 2,068
    gaebel said:

    This robot appears to be a nod to the Victor/Securitron from Fallout: New Vegas. 

    Or to Claptrap from Borderlands.

     

    Yeah when I first saw it I thought of Claptrap as well..

  • FPFP Posts: 117
  • RuphussRuphuss Posts: 2,631

    to say it in short

    it has no weight

    or does it constantly fall in your viewport ?

  • Yes, Gyros. Internal Gyros.

    (Powered by hamsters.)

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,639
    edited May 2020

    I understand counterbalance and stuff but if it fell over it would be like those beetles that die if they fall on their backs.

    Unless it has thrusters using highly compressed gasses in very small cylinders as to not take up too much real estate to right itself.

    Also interesting how they crank the wheel, guess some sort of chain or belt in one of the side flanges but is it driven by a motor or also compressed gas.

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  • 1gecko1gecko Posts: 309
    edited May 2020

    but the HUGE question is that, if it HAS powerful enough internal gyros to make standing up, turning and moving (without the torque body-slamming it) possible - and the HUGE power consumption involved (since we are not talking a laser gyroscope sensor but rather physical gyros to *exert* force);  Why is it using a WHEEL as its primary mode of travel at all?!?!?!

    I mean, we got to *see* why C3PO had such problems with movement / flexibility - he was designed and built by a 5 yr old!  That doesn't say much for the designer of this woeful little dude...

    (I actually thought of passing on it even AT the price - free - because I could never see myself using such, but I figured it might come in handy sometime for kit-bashing...)

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,264
    Diomede said:

    someone had to post a unicycle video - guess it is going to be me.

    .;..forgot to post this on the "Foruth be with You" day, but yeah, unicycles are cool.

    Then there's this...

    Thor would have been proud.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,264
    gaebel said:

    This robot appears to be a nod to the Victor/Securitron from Fallout: New Vegas. 

    Or to Claptrap from Borderlands.

     

    ...that was my first thought as well, though has no arms. (however, nothing a little kit bashing wouldn't fix).

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,343
    Diomede said:

    someone had to post a unicycle video - guess it is going to be me.

    I don't think I'd have ever saw a unicycle in use without the rider juggling so that's a first.

  • dennisgray41dennisgray41 Posts: 823

    https://www.daz3d.com/b-23-robot

    I looked at this and thought to myself what would be involved with making this stand upright in Studio.
    Thats a thing that just happened.

    In my defense I have gulped down only one of many coffees this morning.

     

    Transuranic counter weights in the wheel.

     

  • dennisgray41dennisgray41 Posts: 823
    Diomede said:

    someone had to post a unicycle video - guess it is going to be me.

    I don't think I'd have ever saw a unicycle in use without the rider juggling so that's a first.

    I sometimes have dreams in which I am riding a uicycle, and suddenly I remember Why am I on my unicycle and not driving my car. Then I can't remember where I left my car. I have stange dreams. 

  • jd641jd641 Posts: 459
    gaebel said:

    This robot appears to be a nod to the Victor/Securitron from Fallout: New Vegas. 

    Or to Claptrap from Borderlands.

     

    When I first saw it I thought "This robot is dangeriously close to claptrap"! Sure the arms are shorter, the long antenna isn't there and the wheel base is altered but if that's my first thought I just hope no one from Gearbox browses here and thinks the same thing.

     

  • davidtriunedavidtriune Posts: 452

    looks like chinese claptrap knockoffs

    jk

  • Robot?

    Propane and propane accessories. That's what's what.

  • James_HJames_H Posts: 1,046

    Yes, Gyros. Internal Gyros.

    (Powered by hamsters.)

    I demand Daz free the hamsters.

  • wizwiz Posts: 1,100
    edited May 2020
    kyoto kid said:
    Then there's this...

    Not "this", "those". They produce and consume electric unicycles by the 10s of millions in China.

    Americans and western Europeans underestimate the usefulness of a vehicle that can

    • get you from your home to pick up public-transit
    • fit under the seat on a bus or train
    • get you from where public transportation drops you to work or school
    • again get tossed under a seat or into a locker, untell it's time to reverse it all and go home.

    Something that starts at about $200, and goes 5-65miles (depending on the size and type of battery) with top speeds ranging from a comfortable jogging speed of 12mph (legal limit in China) to 35mph (for other markets, including America). You may even use it inside your workplace if you work in a 25,000,000ft2 factory complex 3 miles from end to end. 

    In the US, may see some in very urban areas, but mostly we consume the higher end models (better acceleration, longer range, all terrain tires, etc).

    Me, I'm too cool for that. I  have one of these:

    Since it's made in Seattle and not subject to Chinese law, it does a good 20mph, long before China started making faster models for export.

    I am Norrin Radd, baby! I have the Power Cosmic.

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  • wizwiz Posts: 1,100
    edited May 2020

    And turning would be an interesting exercise with one flat cross section wheel. Unicycles can turn due to CG transfer and a curved cross section wheel. I suppose it could be done with a torque reaction internal gyro, but there are easier ways of doing it.

    Squishing the tire to one side or the other works fine. I've been driving a OneWheel for years (see the post above this one).

    I have precisely the same reservations about the Segway; An exceedingly clever, high tech, energy intensive, design intensive, resource intensive solution solving a problem a bicycle solved 150 years ago

    Did you ever see a bus or commuter train that could hold 50 bicycles?

    Where do you put your bike as you go from class to class, or building to building at work?

    Something like an original Segway or those "hoverboard" style smaller two-wheel ones can pivot about its center, which is very handy.

    The Chinese electric unicycle ones are briefcase sized. You won't notice if you're in an elevator with six people that each have one. You will notice if there are six people with bicycles.

    with virtually no technology, little resources, small design effort and zero non-renewable energy input.

    Humans don't eat for free, my friend. The resource requirements to keep a bicycle on the road are huge. And my solar panels produce

    In my view, the Segway is a solution still looking for a problem that hasn't yet been solved.

    I'm familiar with the expression "A solution looking for a problem", but I can't work my way through all the logical premises in "a solution still looking for a problem that hasn't yet been solved."

    Personal electric transportation devices (Segways, hoverboards, OneWheels, electric unicycles) solve a ton of problems. Maybe not your particular first-world problems (although I'm first-world and I have one) but not everyone has your privilege.

    Post edited by wiz on
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