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Cerian Nobility question

SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,310
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So the clay render shows 4 hasp closures, but the textured renders show buttons, so the clay render doesn't show what we're getting.  The texture add-on shows buttons and  hasps.  What's the deal?

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  • SadeSade Posts: 883
    edited June 2020

    hullo. I am the texturer. The button from textures XD the clasp are from mesh :) (for some design i felt the button is better. i made 5 set, base and texture expansion, half are clasp half button, if i remember well)

    I hope i could help :D

     

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  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,310

    But shouldn't the Cerian Nobility base texture be representative of the mesh?  As it stands, you don't get all the benefits of the base item unless you also buy the add-ons.  The only thing interesting about this garment are the hasps.  As it stands, we just get some painted on buttons and leaves on an outfit made out of sweat fabric.

    It's annoying that with every Pro Bundle, the garments that come with the bundle only have the most boring texture.  In this case, however, we don't even get the full benefit of the mesh.

  • ALLIEKATBLUEALLIEKATBLUE Posts: 2,977
    sade said:

    hullo. I am the texturer. The button from textures XD the clasp are from mesh :) (for some design i felt the button is better. i made 5 set, base and texture expansion, half are clasp half button, if i remember well)

    I hope i could help :D

     

    This is a gorgeous outfit. The base outfit is anything but boring in my opinion and the expansion textures are very nice as well.  Thanks for the different button styles on the texture set.  Can't wait to render them all

  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,185

     If it isn;t with the clasps in the base product, it is basically selling what you see is not what you get. Forces us to have to buy the texture add to get what we should have gotten with the base product. not good

  • JOdelJOdel Posts: 6,288

    Or just use shaders on them. I'm assuming they are a matt zone?

  • The Blurst of TimesThe Blurst of Times Posts: 2,410
    Sevrin said:

    But shouldn't the Cerian Nobility base texture be representative of the mesh?  As it stands, you don't get all the benefits of the base item unless you also buy the add-ons.  The only thing interesting about this garment are the hasps.  As it stands, we just get some painted on buttons and leaves on an outfit made out of sweat fabric.

    It's annoying that with every Pro Bundle, the garments that come with the bundle only have the most boring texture.  In this case, however, we don't even get the full benefit of the mesh.

    Well, looking at it from another way, you're getting an EXTRA Trans map that knocks out the clasps.

    :-D

    JOdel said:

    Or just use shaders on them. I'm assuming they are a matt zone?

    It's the "DecoFront" Surface zone, yes. They seem to be cut off with an Opacity map. You can delete that map if you like, or otherwise add them back in. The front buttons are on the diffuse & other maps themselves ("FrontStrip" surface), not modeled as separate items.

  • SadeSade Posts: 883
    Sevrin said:

    But shouldn't the Cerian Nobility base texture be representative of the mesh?  As it stands, you don't get all the benefits of the base item unless you also buy the add-ons.  The only thing interesting about this garment are the hasps.  As it stands, we just get some painted on buttons and leaves on an outfit made out of sweat fabric.

    It's annoying that with every Pro Bundle, the garments that come with the bundle only have the most boring texture.  In this case, however, we don't even get the full benefit of the mesh.

    Sorry, i not share the outfits, and not make nothing, just the textures. sorry. :I

    (Actually this blue outfit one of my fav from that set)

  • SadeSade Posts: 883
    ALLIEKATBLUE said:
    sade said:

    hullo. I am the texturer. The button from textures XD the clasp are from mesh :) (for some design i felt the button is better. i made 5 set, base and texture expansion, half are clasp half button, if i remember well)

    I hope i could help :D

     

    This is a gorgeous outfit. The base outfit is anything but boring in my opinion and the expansion textures are very nice as well.  Thanks for the different button styles on the texture set.  Can't wait to render them all

    thank you ±<3 (i had a really bad day, you made it much better <3)

     

  • SadeSade Posts: 883

    (the clasp are there with the button versions too, i just simple hidded it with transparency map)

     

  • GoggerGogger Posts: 2,417
    sade said:

    (the clasp are there with the button versions too, i just simple hidded it with transparency map)

     

    I'm getting the outfit and the texture pack so I will be getting the full benefit of your work - thank you!  I prefer the clasps, but am pleased to know that if I change my mind at any point I can use buttons. I appreciate the effort and talent you put into your products.

  • MelissaGTMelissaGT Posts: 2,611

    I think the OP's point is being missed...that the textures that come with the *base* outfit do not include textures for the clasps that are pictured on the *base* mesh. Yes, you can just pop a metal shader on them. But you shouldn't have to. 

  • GoggerGogger Posts: 2,417
    melissastjames said:

    I think the OP's point is being missed...that the textures that come with the *base* outfit do not include textures for the clasps that are pictured on the *base* mesh. Yes, you can just pop a metal shader on them. But you shouldn't have to. 

    I completely agree on this. With any luck there will be a corrective update soon.  Admittedly, I am still waiting to purchase until I get home from work tonight so am commenting out of ignorance. At least I'll have something to test and scrutinize as soon as it DIM installs.   :)

  • DaventakiDaventaki Posts: 1,624
    melissastjames said:

    I think the OP's point is being missed...that the textures that come with the *base* outfit do not include textures for the clasps that are pictured on the *base* mesh. Yes, you can just pop a metal shader on them. But you shouldn't have to. 

    Also means that even if you turn the clasps back "on" the buttons are still going to be there because they are on the textures and not modeled. 

  • SadeSade Posts: 883

    ok.  .

    as texturer, i dont know which will the base set, and which will the expansion. i understand you, im sorry, but _I_ (its not the daz fault) decided, for few sets fits the button more.

    next time i make the buttons, as LIE.

    however, i have to tell, not the first, not the last time, when i use transparency maps, but every time when i do, i do, because i try to do the outfit better, make more versatility.

    thank you

    sade

     

  • BendinggrassBendinggrass Posts: 1,373
    sade said:

    ok.  .

    as texturer, i dont know which will the base set, and which will the expansion. i understand you, im sorry, but _I_ (its not the daz fault) decided, for few sets fits the button more.

    next time i make the buttons, as LIE.

    however, i have to tell, not the first, not the last time, when i use transparency maps, but every time when i do, i do, because i try to do the outfit better, make more versatility.

    thank you

    sade

     

    Hi sade.

     

    Generally I understand about the original comment .

    But I want to add that I love the things you have made available here. You are one of my favourite vendors, creators, here.

    Randy

  • SadeSade Posts: 883
    Bendinggrass said:
    sade said:

    ok.  .

    as texturer, i dont know which will the base set, and which will the expansion. i understand you, im sorry, but _I_ (its not the daz fault) decided, for few sets fits the button more.

    next time i make the buttons, as LIE.

    however, i have to tell, not the first, not the last time, when i use transparency maps, but every time when i do, i do, because i try to do the outfit better, make more versatility.

    thank you

    sade

     

    Hi sade.

     

    Generally I understand about the original comment .

    But I want to add that I love the things you have made available here. You are one of my favourite vendors, creators, here.

    Randy

    thank you

    i try the ask about and making more preset. If anything have i can help on it.  sometimes more connection between the phases would be nice, slowly getting closer. 

  • fastbike1fastbike1 Posts: 4,078

    @Gogger "With any luck there will be a corrective update soon"

    Won't be an update if no one submits a ticket.

  • The Blurst of TimesThe Blurst of Times Posts: 2,410

    It's not difficult to replace the Buttons panel with cloth? It's just the FrontStrip surface.

    Just go in, replicate the cloth section from other panels. The other stuff (bump and whatever) has such a small influence, that's also super simple to modify relative to the diffuse map.

    Whether you should or should not have to. I mean... I modify maps or create new texture maps all the time for my own purposes. If I don't like it, I change it. IMO, everyone should try to do that. It's a good skill to have.

    melissastjames said:

    I think the OP's point is being missed...that the textures that come with the *base* outfit do not include textures for the clasps that are pictured on the *base* mesh. Yes, you can just pop a metal shader on them. But you shouldn't have to. 

    I was just approaching it from the glass half full perspective. You're getting an extra Trans map (LOL).

    It's an EXTRA, not a subtraction.

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