Suggestions for a 27 or 32 inch monitor to work with DAZ
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Here are some options i am considering. Is a curved monitor only for gaming and not recommended for 3D modeling and rendering? The Dell is a bit pricey. I really want to pay arond $350 max.
LG 27UD58-B 27-Inch 4K UHD IPS Monitor with FreeSync
| Price: | $374.99 & FREE Returns |
| Color | Black |
| Brand | LG |
| Hardware Interface | Hdmi |
| Resolution | 4K UHD 2160p |
| Response Time | 5 Milliseconds |
About this item
- 4K UHD (3840 x 2160) IPS monitor
- Freesync OS Compatibility Windows 10
- On Screen control with screen Split 2.0
- Game mode & Black stabilizer; Brightness: 250 cd/m2, color depth (number of colors):10bit(8bit + A FRC)
- HDMI 2.0 (x2) and DisplayPort
- Mounting type: Wall Mount 100 millimeter x 100 millimeter
Dell UP2716D 27" Screen LED-Lit Monitor
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Size: 27" QHD
| Series | UP2716D |
| Color | Black |
| Brand | Dell |
| Hardware Interface | Usb3.0 |
| Resolution | QHD Wide 1440p |
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- Quad HD - 2560 x 1440 at 60 Hz
- Premier Color Technology, Narrow Bezel, Updated to Pro ID
- Optimized for multi-monitor setup, Built in KVM, PIP/PBP
- Compatibility- All Operating System
VIOTEK NV32Q True 4K Monitor 32-Inch Curved | 60Hz 4ms (OD) Streaming-Ready 3840 x 2160p Monitor for Gaming/Movies | HDR-Ready 1500R VA Panel w/FreeSync | HDMI 2.0 DP 1.2 Audio Out (VESA)
| Price: | $349.99 & FREE Shipping |
Size: 32" 2160p 4k 16:9 Black
| Color | Black |
| Brand | Viotek |
| Mounting Type | Wall Mount |
| Item Weight | 9.5 Pounds |
| Total HDMI Ports | 1 |
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- MULTIMEDIA JUGGERNAUT — This 4K widescreen monitor produces stunning images and captures every detail, turning every frame into a visual feast. The deep 1500R curvature provides greater viewing immersion by covering more field of view than 1800R monitors.
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- EXTENSIVE CONNECTIONS — Connect to other devices using the three HDMI ports or DP 1.2. The NV32Q works perfectly as a game console monitor and with external sound systems through the 3.5mm audio jack. Multitask like a beast, with built-in PIP/PBP.
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Personally I love the LG UltraWide monitors like these
https://www.amazon.com/LG-29WK600-W-29-UltraWide-21/dp/B078GL93KG/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=lg+ultrawide+monitor&qid=1592654851&s=electronics&sr=1-2
https://www.amazon.com/LG-34UM69G-B-34-Inch-UltraWide-Reduction/dp/B06XFXX5JH/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=lg+ultrawide+monitor&qid=1592654851&s=electronics&sr=1-4
They also have a curved version but that's outside your price range
I like the UltraWide monitors because everything fits on one screen instead of having to split up my workspace over multiple monitors
At that price point buy based on these factors:
Resolutions supported. If you want 4k then make sure the monitor supports it. (note that pricey Dell is 1440p not 4k)
Screen size. I personally do not like using a monitor smaller than 27" but YMMV.
The tech of the panel. IPS, TN etc. are different and they each have pros and cons.
Be aware that at this price you will not get, at least I've never seen, factory color calibration. If you are doing production work for printing you absolutely have to color calibrate the monitor. If not close is going to be good enough.
Also bear in mind that the Studio app interface will not scale to 4K.
Before jumping into 4K, take stock of your eyesight, and consider the peculiarity of Daz Studio's unchangeable tiny fonts. I have a WQHD (1440p) 27" and that's about the limit of comfortable readability for me. I also use a second screen for reference stuff, Youtube forums, etc.
They are alll 16:9 aspecct ratio, whiich is rather limiting in appliations like DS and graphics applications in general (which tend to have a lot of tool bars or vertical lists, for objects or layers or presets).
I've been looking at monitors myselff. Would a monitor capable of rotating vertically help in the situation of vertical lists, etc?
I'm usng a 24 inch right now, running at 1080, but text any smaller would be impossible for me to read. 4k though, the movies and videos would be awesome.
Never heard of Viotek ..need to check that out. great price.
I believe performance tends to suffer when the monitor is twisted. I'd also think that was a bit too much height - even 4:3 (a non-wide screen aspect ratio) was limiting (as I recall just one vertical pane group) and you'd reverse that.
Why is the font in the DAZ UI so small? It has been chronic problem since DAZ Studio's inception? I am 68 years old and have issues with my eyesight. I would think this is a problem that could be solved. Every other graphics application seems to have solved it? Is there some reason DAZ does not address this? I thought getting a bigger monitor with higher resolution would solve the problem, but obviously that is not the case.
Thanks for the comments! I like the price of the LG 29WK600-W 29" UltraWide ($229 at Amazon) and the fact that it is ultra-wide. I already have an older smaller Samsung monitor. I like having two screens, but even better to have the second monitor be an ultra-wide.
Is there a big difference between the 29" and 34". The 34" is $376. Is it worth the extra money?
It depends on what you're using that monitor for. If you're running a dual monitor setup and the vertical one is used primarily for panes, parameter dials, other adjustment functions and notes and reference materials, running one monitor vertically is fine and has the benefit that you can use a small seond monitor. I ran a top of the line Dell 32" and an older, much more basic 3/4 aspect ratio Samsung on one of my main setups for years and they meshed really well, with one of the biggest advantages being that I didn't have to swivel my head back and forth so much as I do with two 32' side by side.
It's the same 1080p resolution, and some users have reported jaggies at 34". This is an older model, and unless readability is a major concern, you might want to keep looking. Reviews are kind of mixed, but it's not expensive, either.
I have a very expensive 27" 4k Dell monitor at work, bought for CAD work just over a year ago. It gave me a severe migraine within an hour of starting work on it every day. I eventually halved the resolution in each direction, and that reduced the severity and speed of onset of the migraines. I got rid of them entirely by relegating the Dell to secondary monitor status for info only, using the old Ilyama 24" 1960 X 1080 px monitor as my main CAD one. On the basis of my small experience with just one monitor, stay away from 4k.
Regards,
Richard.
Interesting. I just assumed 4K was better, but I will have to rethink that.
The issue is the size of the monitor and how far you sit from the monitor. I strongly suggest Googling the details.
As a basic rule, I don't advising buying a monitor based on other peoples opinions or a spec list unless it's something that everyone raves about, and you're not going to find one like that in this price range. Find some B&M stores that sell them, or someone else who already has one, and go look to see if you actually like it. Manufacturers, especially ones based in China, will often bend the way they get spec results, and even when the specs may be technically accurate, the color of the monitor itself may have strong color casts or poor contrast which cannot be completely adjusted for. I'm currently running two 32" monitors side by side on both my old and my new workstation setups, and in both cases the specs of the two monitors are close, but the images each have distinctive looks, with the more expensive monitors providing the best overall look. All that said, in my experience LG, Samsung and Dell monitors are generally going to be the most reliable in terms of having a pleasing image, though the primary monitor on my new setup is a smashing BenQ PD3200U. One last bit of advice: sometimes there can be a lot of fluctuation during the run of a product, and that's especially true of monitors, so it's it's better to pay a little extra from a vendor that has a good return policy (or whose store you can actually walk into) than going for the cheapest price online and getting stuck with one of the off units. Amazon, in particular, seems to have become a dumping ground for older and outdated products, and is also infamous for "pooling" reviews of similar but different products, which can bury reported flaws in specific models amongst multiple glowing reports for others or, conversely, hurt a very good product because of production issues that have long since been fixed. The early production run of my BenQ, for example, had a firmware issue that caused flickering, resulting in a number of negative reviews, even though Tom's hardware named it one of their Editor's Choice in 2017. I saw a LOT of complaints about flickering in Amazon's reviews, indicating old product, so I didn't buy it from them until they specifically posted in the product description that all of the units being sold were post firmware fix.
::coughs:: So... I'm running 3 monitors, all 4K. The leftmost is a Dell P2415Q 24" LED and it is set up in portrait mode (vertical.) In the middle as the main monitor, UH750 28" QLED (which has been somewhat color-calibrated) in landscape mode, and to the right, a Samsung U28E510 28" LED also in landscape mode. Windows scaling is at 175% for the two Samsungs and 200% for the Dell. Even with pro-sumer color calibration, the three monitors look slightly different, but I rely on a combination of the two Samsungs for checking color. The two outside monitors are run off of a RTX2080 Ti and the center monitor runs on a second RTX 2080 Ti.
With those resolutions and that scaling the DAZ interface is usable at 4K for me. Would I like the text a little larger, sure, but it's usable. I usually float the content menu library and put that on Dell monitor and give it as much verticle height as I can, and I sometimes put an Aux viewport on the far-right monitor (but that's as often kept for a browser window for related tasks.) For me, DAZ generally doesn't have a problem with positioning on either of the landscape monitors, but add in the portrait monitor and snapping and resizing can get a little dodgy with the floating panels sometimes hopping offscreen and having to be retrieved. Most graphics and editing apps I run have no problem with 4K or the multiple monitors. Avid Media Composer Free, though, just completely spazzs during start-up and cannot configure properly (I suspect due to the verticle monitor), which is fine because I mostly use HitFilm Pro, Premiere, and After Effects for editing and compositing and they all behave just fine.
TomD
I just use a 43 inch 4k TV for my monitor. Took a bit of getting used to the size, but I like it now.
I use a 2 samsung 27" twin monitors and I love them tthese are only 1080p anything bigger i could not read daz on the screen. 27" was the sweet spot for me
Thanks - with my presbyopia and fixed focus computer glasses I've always ignored multi-display set-ups but that's an interesting approach.
Can you spread DAZ Studio's panels across two monitors? I was thinking of getting a second monitor and it would be very nice to have the quad-view in one monitor and the Aux viewport filling the other.
For the OP: I would recommend not getting a curved monitor for work, get IPS for better color accuracy, and 1440p is a good balance between the large text and icons of 1080 and the teeny tiny ones of 4K. I bought this...and it's half price now, wooow.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01K1INYWG/
I have two of the 29" LG Monitors for different PCs and I love them. Yes, it is not the latest technology but I'm not a gamer. The audio quality is pretty good too for a basic set of built-in speakers. The 34" is the same resolution and feature set but physically larger. I would stick with the 29" unless you really need something physically larger.
unfortunately for me only 1 copy of Daz will only resides on 1 monitor at a time. I can move daz studio by dragging from one monitor to the other. But you can't split the view ports between 2 monitors. I can open 1 copy fo daz studio then put another 2nd copy of studio on the 2nd monitor . but only one studio per monitor on my set up. & you won,t be able to share work space between them the 2 open studios. They will have to be 2 different separate projects folders to work that way. at least on my set up anyway
I like to use dual monitors for post working one project on 1 monitor as I am rendering on the other I drive both my monitors with a 980tiSC and save the 2 -1080ti's for rendering.
I find if you want a monitor that's it's best to use dual monitors. One being FHD and the other 4K. For those cheap home office sized desks like you can buy at Office Depot and similar stores the monitor size that works best is 27" to 28". I still use my 14 year old ancient 27" FHD monitor but have looking to buy a 4K at 27" or 28". The 4K is just to run game testing on and to run 4K render windows on.
In fact if you look at the price of a 4K TV with much computer hardware and software stuffed into them and much larger in size than these 4K monitors it's apparent we are being price gouged with regards to these 4K computer monitors. For that reason I'll buy a 2nd FHD at less than $150 and buy a huge 4K TV to hang on my wall for only about $200 - $250 more than these new 27" - 32" 4K computer monitors. I'll test games on the TV using an Android box.
But if you still want a cheap 4K computer monitor: this Philips and other Philips 4K monitors have consistently been the cheapest 4K monitors I've seen in the past year but for some reason since this covid-19 the price has went up for new by over $100. The price used to be new $225 - $250. Now you have to buy used or used - refurbished to get close to that price but they are still about $25 - $50 more than they were at $270.
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0881YHY6P/ref=sspa_dk_detail_6?psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFEUTRONkJSODlISTgmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTA5MTMzNzEyQjlEQUhZN0dOWTVFJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA1NTk5ODVLRjRONzI4TDRUMDImd2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9kZXRhaWwyJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==#customerReviews
Good luck
Well, that's just saved me the cost of a second monitor. I was seriously thinking of getting one because my 25" Dell is a bit crowded with all the DAZ Studio panels crammed into one display. Now I know that I can't, I'll have to think of another solution.
You can float and split your Studio panels between multiple monitors. I've attached a photo of my setup - since we're sharing. The Content Library pane is on the left monitor - Studio proper in the center - and on the right is a floating Aux viewport and the Octane viewport. The text in the Content Library pane is small - I think Studio has a problem with managing the scaling on multiple monitors, and it will get flaky if dragged around too much. But, with some finesse, you can do it. No problems at all on the similarly scaled and configured center and right monitors.
TomD
I also have no trouble undocking panes and moving them to another monitor
That's very good to know Tom, thank you. Hope Marble sees it too.
We use a lot of big TVs as monitors in my business, and while these are servicable, there are a lot of differences between a dedicated computer monitor and a TV, with one of the biggest being that TV's are designed to be viewed from a distance and monitors are meant to be viewed from close up. As a result, computer monitors have to have a much higher pixel density on their screen than a same-sized TV, which is part of what makes them more expensive, and while a same resolution TV may work okay, that's only as long you can get far enough away from it to offset the less dense pixels. The thing is, not many people have the space in their office to have their monitor at least five to eight feet from their keyboards, and there are a number of other areas in which TVs also come up short to a same-resolution monitor having to do with viewing angle, color accuracy, etc. If someone made a 4K 32" monitor that would be the closest comparison, but I'm not aware of anyone who makes one of those, and if they do it's probably priced the same as a comparable monitor.
How dd you get that to work I have tried 5 ways to sundays to have Aux View port and View port on seperate monitors & I can undock the view ports from daz but they won;t move to a second monitor so hows that work for you?
well I went and tried to move the Daz Studio tabs from one monitor to another . I can undock & relocate tabs within studio . but tabs will not move off studio at all just relocate where you want them docked. . I could not even move them off the studio on the same monitor, let alone move the content tab to another monitor. so I have no idea how you guys are doing it. All my tabs stay within daz studio . would you please care to share your settings, & what version of daz are you using??