Where Should I Save Things?

HonzoHonzo Posts: 193

Where I should I save things so they make sense to the Daz system itself?  If I just save a character or scene using the defaults of 'Save As' they show up in the list of 'Open Recent' until they aren't recent- but they don't show up in the My Daz Connect Library that 'Open' links to. They seem to be in "C:Daz 3D>Applications>64bit>DAZ 3D>DAZStudio4" which doesn't have much in common with the path to My Daz Connect Library, also seems to be full of dlls- not the kind of place you usually want to store things like assets. It doesn't have any of the content I've installed, either- and it seems like it would make sense to have some relationship between what I make and what it's made out of. So where am I supposed to save characters, morphs, etc, so they can be accessed by the file system properly?
 

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,800

    Don't try saving to the Connect library, if you are using the default paths use Documents/Daz 3D/Studio/My Library - which seems to be the default for each filter type even if that isn't a mapped content directory at alll (which I find annoying). DS does drop to the application folder in at least some cases if it can't find the default/last used folder but not, as I recall, for saving presets or scenes.

  • HonzoHonzo Posts: 193

    Thank you! The file system is very confusing, and I haven't been able to divine the reasoning behind it.

     

  • HonzoHonzo Posts: 193

    So....  I just tried to put a G3M figure in a scene by clicking on the icon in the Smart Content pane, and it returned the message that the asset does not exist. If the asset does not exist, why does it appear in the Smart Content Pane? According to the rollover on the icon itself, it is in My 3D Library- yet another library... 

    Is there any purpose to these different default libraries? Why can't Daz find assets that it installed itself? I have not moved anything.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,800

    Check the icon for the Genesis 3 Starter Essentials product in the Products tab of Smart Content - if it doesn't have a circled triangle at top-right the system thinks there's a Connect install and is trying to load that. You can right-click and select Uninstall to make the DIM install (in My Daz 3d Library by default) work again.

  • HonzoHonzo Posts: 193

    Check the icon for the Genesis 3 Starter Essentials product in the Products tab of Smart Content - if it doesn't have a circled triangle at top-right the system thinks there's a Connect install and is trying to load that. You can right-click and select Uninstall to make the DIM install (in My Daz 3d Library by default) work again.

    Thanks!

  • HonzoHonzo Posts: 193

    I spoke too soon...  

     

    So, I don't see any of those circled triangles anywhere. If I click 'browse to file location', the figure is shown in My Daz 3D Library. It still will not load.  Right click on the icon, there's no option to delete it. There is a 'group as' button, and under that is a checked box for 'None' which cannot be unchecked.

    I also see a few assets, like G3F, that show a different kind of icon with a white picture frame with a triangle and exclamation point in it. This will not allow 'browse to file location,' but otherwise behaves like the first one.

    Daz Central shows G3 Starter Essentials, where I presume these items came from, as installed.

     

    Since I can't uninstall things from Smart Content that it doesn't believe exist, I'll try to uninstall them from Daz Central- but how should I reinstall them to make them work right?

  • HonzoHonzo Posts: 193
    edited June 2020

    Can't figure out how to install this again except through Daz Central, and that gives the same result. The video under the Install tab is a dead link...

    Figured out how to uninstall from the Content Library, and then reinstall from there, and now everything seems to work.

    It's hard to emphasize how truly aggravating this file management system is. I imagine that somebody has reasons for wanting several different ways to do the same thing, but at the very least, it should be crystal clear where everything is actually going, where the system is searching for things, and how to set default pathways up from the relevant tools themselves.

    To be fair, though, almost every package I've used for related purposes seems to have something similarly bizarre- but different- going on in their file system. This only makes it worse, though, because it's harder to remember the 'right' way to do things once you've figured it out in the twenty-third program...

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,800

    If there were no ircled triangles on the product thumbnails (not individual files) then the system thought everything was installed through Connect.

    Exclamation mark in a frame means no thumbnail, exclamation mark at lower-left means the actual file is missing.

  • HonzoHonzo Posts: 193

    If there were no ircled triangles on the product thumbnails (not individual files) then the system thought everything was installed through Connect.

    Exclamation mark in a frame means no thumbnail, exclamation mark at lower-left means the actual file is missing.

    Thanks, that's helpful. I was getting both kinds of exclamation marks, but now it's resolved by installing through the Install Tab. Am I right that that is what is referred to as DIM, or is this yet another system? 

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,800

    Daz Central and Daz Install Manager (DIM) are external appliations using the same zips, the latter allowing more configuration. Installing within Daz Studio, through the Install pane or one of the product lists, is Daz Connect.

  • HonzoHonzo Posts: 193

    Daz Central and Daz Install Manager (DIM) are external appliations using the same zips, the latter allowing more configuration. Installing within Daz Studio, through the Install pane or one of the product lists, is Daz Connect.

    Okay... so which is most compatible with Smart Content? Or does it matter? I can't backtrack far enough to figure out how I installed the Gen3 Essentials, but I think it was in the original program download, right? Seems like that content should be installed with 100% connection to Smart Content, but it wasn't...  

    I find this baffling. I'd think it was somebody's job to make all this stuff play nice together.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,800

    All of them should set things up correctly for Smart Content

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