Is a GTX 2060 Super a good card to get or...

I'm trying to decide if I should get a gtx 2060 Super card.  Is it a decent card, at 6GB of VRAM, for higher resolution scenes or should I wait for something better?

About to start creating graphics for my first OGN and just looking for some incite.

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  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,192
    edited June 2020

    The 2060 Super has 8GB of VRAM, so the next cheapest card that has more is the flagship 2080ti. Every 20xx card except the 6GB 2060 and the 11GB 2080ti have the same amount of VRAM, so the difference is in the number of CUDA and tensor cores, which will speed up your renders. 

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  • kenshaw011267kenshaw011267 Posts: 3,805

    The 2060 is a good card for rendering. Good but not great. If your budget is in that range definitely get it. You will get lots of renders done in reasonable amounts of time.

  • edited June 2020

    If you can wait... Wait til' fall.  The 3000 cards "should" be out (and they promise to be advanced in comparison to 2000 series cards).  At the very least, they should make the older cards a bit cheaper.
    https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-rtx-3080-ampere-all-we-know

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  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    I went with 2070 Super because 2060 Super didn't support NVLink/SLI.

    Not that I have two cards, but who knows... At the next update, it is good to have options

  • fred9803fred9803 Posts: 1,564

    I said in a previous post that people shouldn't be buying new GPUs with NIVIDIA about to release a new series. But in reality there's never a right time to buy one as there's always something new around the corner.

    I bought a RTX 2080 a few months before the cheaper and better super ones came out but that's just the game I (all of us) are playing. Resentment is like drinking poison and waiting for the other person to die.

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715

    I agree, and have said similar.

    Wait.

    You cash in your pocket is to your benefit; giving it to Nvidia (or whoever) is to theirs.

  • GalaxyGalaxy Posts: 562
    edited June 2020

    As knowledgeable persons said

    1. Go for RTX

    2. Go for more VRAM (As in future Daz Studio probably will require more VRAM)

    3. Wait for 3000 Series RTX (You either buy a 3000 card or get a price drop for 2000 cards)

     

    I am still waiting because I want a feeling of pleasure by giving my cash to Nvidia. Not a situation like "Oh I made a mistake due to not wait for few days" (not applicable for those who don't have any card at present).

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  • HavosHavos Posts: 5,404
    edited June 2020

    Bear in mind that even if the 3000 range does hit this autumn, that will be the top of the range cards, and the more reasonably priced 3060 and 3070 will follow later, maybe not until the end of the year. Also we don't know if the cards will work in DS without fixes of Iray from nVidia, so again, depending on DS and nVidia release cycles, you might have to wait a year to use these new cards in DS.

    I got a 2060 super 8GB version, and for me at least, it is very fast. Rendering even complex scenes took no longer than 30-60 mins, and simple scenes in a few minutes. I personally don't find the 8GB limiting at all, but I am willing to put in the handful of mins work into optimising a heavy scene with Scene Optimizer.

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  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    edited June 2020
    Galaxy said:

    As knowledgeable persons said

    1. Go for RTX

    2. Go for more VRAM (As in future Daz Studio probably will require more VRAM)

    3. Wait for 3000 Series RTX (You either buy a 3000 card or get a price drop for 2000 cards)

     

    I am still waiting because I want a feeling of pleasure by giving my cash to Nvidia. Not a situation like "Oh I made a mistake due to not wait for few days" (not applicable for those who don't have any card at present).

    Me too.

    I had saved up for a 1080ti, but decided to wait, then figured what the hell, I'll get a Titan; have the cash for that too now, but I'm rendering in Blender now and Threadripper and 980ti do just fine. I like having my cash in the bank - despite the crap interest.

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  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024
    Havos said:

    Bear in mind that even if the 3000 range does hit this autumn, that will be the top of the range cards, and the more reasonably priced 3060 and 3070 will follow later, maybe not until the end of the year. Also we don't know if the cards will work in DS without fixes of Iray from nVidia, so again, depending on DS and nVidia release cycles, you might have to wait a year to use these new cards in DS.

    I got a 2060 super 8GB version, and for me at least, it is very fast. Rendering even complex scenes took no longer than 30-60 mins, and simple scenes in a few minutes. I personally don't find the 8GB limiting at all, but I am willing to put in the handful of mins work into optimising a heavy scene with Scene Optimizer.

    I agree.

    Vacation time is just around the corner, do I want to sit for hours, waiting for the render to finish because I may get a 15% reduction in price of 20 series GPU when the next generation will be released...

    I just upgraded a 4GB GTX960 to a 8GB RTX 2070 Super, and a scene that took 10.5 hours to render, is now finished in 25 minutes.

  • Just like the other guy above I have the 8GB 2070 Super and it renders really fast !! What I use to render for hours now takes minutes.

  • Noah LGPNoah LGP Posts: 2,617
    edited June 2020

    RTX 3060 (8GB GDDR6) should be 5% slower than 2080 Ti, it will be released in Q1 2021.

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  • I got a pretty good deel on an RTX 2070 at newegg for $399. It has 8 GB of RAM.

    https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-2070-gv-n2070wf2-8gd/p/N82E16814932160?Description=RTX%202070&cm_re=RTX_2070-_-14-932-160-_-Product&quicklink=true

    Going from a GTX 1060 to the RTX 2070 improved my render times by about 40%.

     

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,333

    I'm definately waiting for the 3000 cards, even at Christmas shopping time or later & will compare to AMD's newest GPU tech purchasable at that time too.

  • ScarletX1969ScarletX1969 Posts: 587

    Finally went with the 2070 Super.  Costed $100 more than the regular but I'm not upgrading for another 3 years after this.  Probably get a second one too.  Any idea if Nvidia will add NVlink capabilities to Iray?

  • WolfwoodWolfwood Posts: 787

    Finally went with the 2070 Super.  Costed $100 more than the regular but I'm not upgrading for another 3 years after this.  Probably get a second one too.  Any idea if Nvidia will add NVlink capabilities to Iray?

    I read somewere that even DAZ already added support for memory pool using it. But i don't know if someone has already tested it because is too recent and probably even those that have multiple compatible cards don't have the bridge because they had no use for it before this.

  • Night Owl 3DNight Owl 3D Posts: 125

    Great choice. I have had my 2070 super for a couple months.  Previously I was running 2 GTX 970's.  I was happy with the rendering performance but wanted to increase my usable video memory so I didn't default to CPU so often.  Adding the 2070 Super gave me a great rendering performance jump.  One thing I found with mine, while rendering the temps run pretty high with the fans on the 2070 running at default speeds.  I installed the free EVGA Precision X1 to control and monitor onboard fan speeds on my  2070 and remaining 970.  And for the record, it works fine with cards other than EVGA.  Just boosting fan speeds 20% made a big difference while rendering.  Beats the cost of water cooling option!

  • Ghosty12Ghosty12 Posts: 2,068
    edited June 2020

    You should of waited for a couple of months, let's just hope that you don't regret your discision to buy now, what with Ampere just around the corner.. It is like this if Ampere's release was a year or so away or your current graphics card died then sure buy a new GPU, but with Ampere being released in a couple of months or so seems a bit silly to splurge out on a new card right now..

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  • takezo_3001takezo_3001 Posts: 1,998
    Galaxy said:

    As knowledgeable persons said

    1. Go for RTX

    2. Go for more VRAM (As in future Daz Studio probably will require more VRAM)

    3. Wait for 3000 Series RTX (You either buy a 3000 card or get a price drop for 2000 cards)

     

    I am still waiting because I want a feeling of pleasure by giving my cash to Nvidia. Not a situation like "Oh I made a mistake due to not wait for few days" (not applicable for those who don't have any card at present).

    That is what I'm doing, as I'm saving up for a 3080ti; it has been rumored to have at least 12 gb of VRAM, which my paltry 1080's 8gb has reached DS's limit for rendering a simple 1 char/background prop (Building/landscape) before falling back to the CPU/black screen render!

  • DMaxDMax Posts: 637

    Enjoying this conversation as I am sick (...horribly sick) of using DS on my Macbook... takes me 12h to render the simplest scenes and still getting something fairly grainy. Been shopping for NVidia and while I know that any Nvidia GPU will jump my render performance like crazy from what it currently is... would you guys have a suggestion for a notebook with a good NVidia GPU? I want to make a fair purchase now (up to approx $2500) and not worry about any upgrades for 3-5 years; also, is it better to have one super GPU (eg. Titan) or two good GPUs (eg. 2080)? The notebook I will eventually purchase will be used solely for DS as my main workstation will be the Macbook. I recognise that a tabletop is better suited for renders but I travel a lot and need a laptop.

    Thank you for your insights!

  • elusiv_3763c6f5e0elusiv_3763c6f5e0 Posts: 15
    edited June 2020

    Sadly, i don't think waiting for 3000 series will bring any savings.

    It's highly likely there won't be a price drop on 2000 - it will remain the same, or even increase, whilst the 3000 will push GPU prices to new record highs. 

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  • kenshaw011267kenshaw011267 Posts: 3,805
    Galaxy said:

    As knowledgeable persons said

    1. Go for RTX

    2. Go for more VRAM (As in future Daz Studio probably will require more VRAM)

    3. Wait for 3000 Series RTX (You either buy a 3000 card or get a price drop for 2000 cards)

     

    I am still waiting because I want a feeling of pleasure by giving my cash to Nvidia. Not a situation like "Oh I made a mistake due to not wait for few days" (not applicable for those who don't have any card at present).

    That is what I'm doing, as I'm saving up for a 3080ti; it has been rumored to have at least 12 gb of VRAM, which my paltry 1080's 8gb has reached DS's limit for rendering a simple 1 char/background prop (Building/landscape) before falling back to the CPU/black screen render!

    That makes no sense. I render 3 or 4 G8's with environments on an 8Gb card.

  • DustRiderDustRider Posts: 2,800
    DMax said:

    Enjoying this conversation as I am sick (...horribly sick) of using DS on my Macbook... takes me 12h to render the simplest scenes and still getting something fairly grainy. Been shopping for NVidia and while I know that any Nvidia GPU will jump my render performance like crazy from what it currently is... would you guys have a suggestion for a notebook with a good NVidia GPU? I want to make a fair purchase now (up to approx $2500) and not worry about any upgrades for 3-5 years; also, is it better to have one super GPU (eg. Titan) or two good GPUs (eg. 2080)? The notebook I will eventually purchase will be used solely for DS as my main workstation will be the Macbook. I recognise that a tabletop is better suited for renders but I travel a lot and need a laptop.

    Thank you for your insights!

    If your looking for a top quality budget laptop, Clevo/Sager laptops are really good. I have one that was custom assembled by Prostar that I used heavily for 3+ years, and it's still runs really well (had to move up to a machine with 128Gb RAM, so I don't use it much now). You can order a custom build from their website, or get a prebuilt from Amazon. This would be a great machine for the price:

    https://www.amazon.com/Prostar-PB51DF2-i7-10875H-3200Mhz-Gaming/dp/B087Z9M1Q2/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=prostar+clevo&qid=1593320086&s=pc&sr=1-1

    I had my new laptop (MSI GT76 Titan) custom built at Xotic PC, and I'm really happy with it, and with the quality of service and build from Xotic. I would have gone with Prostar again, but they didn't offer a machine with 128Gb RAM. My next laptop (3 years or so) will probably be from either Prostar or Xotic PC (note that Prostar has been in business for about 20 years, which is impressive for a small custom shop).

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    Noah LGP said:

    RTX 3060 (8GB GDDR6) should be 5% slower than 2080 Ti, it will be released in Q1 2021.

    Facts should be backed up with evidence.

  • VisuimagVisuimag Posts: 571

     

     

    nicstt said:
    Noah LGP said:

    RTX 3060 (8GB GDDR6) should be 5% slower than 2080 Ti, it will be released in Q1 2021.

    Facts should be backed up with evidence.

    https://www.tweaktown.com/news/72225/nvidias-mid-range-geforce-rtx-3060-could-beat-flagship-2080-ti/index.html

    In any event, to the OP, yes a 2060 is a decent card for rendering. Spend your money how you want, though (I just built a mostly new rig last week, for example). You can get it now (even though I'd advise the next step up on a 2070), or grab one of the 3000 series cards in a few months. That's the great thing about options. :)

  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,310

    Sadly, i don't think waiting for 3000 series will bring any savings.

    It's highly likely there won't be a price drop on 2000 - it will remain the same, or even increase, whilst the 3000 will push GPU prices to new record highs. 

    Yeah, I agree.  If Nvidia was going to get agressive with pricing they would have already started, and they haven't.  Six months or a year from now, the conversation might be different.  Mining is a wild card, as well.

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 11,845
    Visuimag said:

     

     

    nicstt said:
    Noah LGP said:

    RTX 3060 (8GB GDDR6) should be 5% slower than 2080 Ti, it will be released in Q1 2021.

    Facts should be backed up with evidence.

    https://www.tweaktown.com/news/72225/nvidias-mid-range-geforce-rtx-3060-could-beat-flagship-2080-ti/index.html

    That article is speculations based on rumors and leaked specs that they themselves say might not be true. Not exactly what I'd call evidences...

  • VisuimagVisuimag Posts: 571
    edited June 2020

     

     

     

    Leana said:
    Visuimag said:

     

     

    nicstt said:
    Noah LGP said:

    RTX 3060 (8GB GDDR6) should be 5% slower than 2080 Ti, it will be released in Q1 2021.

    Facts should be backed up with evidence.

    https://www.tweaktown.com/news/72225/nvidias-mid-range-geforce-rtx-3060-could-beat-flagship-2080-ti/index.html

    That article is speculations based on rumors and leaked specs that they themselves say might not be true. Not exactly what I'd call evidences...

    I mean, he asked for where such info may have originated. That's a source. Obviously, it's all speculation right now, but I'm not going to derail the thread arguing with you about it.

     
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  • kenshaw011267kenshaw011267 Posts: 3,805

    Some actual facts that won't stop the hype train but might give some people actual information.

    Ampere has been announced but no commercial or datcenter cards have been announced. NONE.

    There have been no specs released or even release dates announced.

    All this stuff from the click bait end of the IT journalism world are worthless. Some might be legit but if you go back and look at these same source's reporting before every other major launch you will find them full of completely untrue stuff. Most recently when Navi was approaching release there were claims that it would include HW ray tracing, not true. That the top end card would rival, or flat outperform, the 2080ti, not true. And so on.

    What we do know about Ampere entering the consumer market is that Nvidia is still testing cooler designs for their reference cards. There was a recent, likely, legit leak of images of a very strange cooler. Cooler Master, which is who Nvidia uses for their coolers, has not stopped or slowed production of other products indicating they have lines making these coolers. Samsung, who will be the fab for the Ampere chips, has not slowed delivery of other 7nm wafers so they do not seem to be in mass production either. The Nvidia partners also have not reduced production of Turing cards or started trimming product lines, another indication that the Ampere cards are not yet in production.

    Taken as a whole, along with the utter lack of Nvidia hyping an announcement, it is unlikely Ampere will be released in 2020. It is possible they will try and get something to market by Black Friday but that window is closing rapidly.

  • VisuimagVisuimag Posts: 571

     

     

     

    Some actual facts that won't stop the hype train but might give some people actual information.

    Ampere has been announced but no commercial or datcenter cards have been announced. NONE.

    There have been no specs released or even release dates announced.

    All this stuff from the click bait end of the IT journalism world are worthless. Some might be legit but if you go back and look at these same source's reporting before every other major launch you will find them full of completely untrue stuff. Most recently when Navi was approaching release there were claims that it would include HW ray tracing, not true. That the top end card would rival, or flat outperform, the 2080ti, not true. And so on.

    What we do know about Ampere entering the consumer market is that Nvidia is still testing cooler designs for their reference cards. There was a recent, likely, legit leak of images of a very strange cooler. Cooler Master, which is who Nvidia uses for their coolers, has not stopped or slowed production of other products indicating they have lines making these coolers. Samsung, who will be the fab for the Ampere chips, has not slowed delivery of other 7nm wafers so they do not seem to be in mass production either. The Nvidia partners also have not reduced production of Turing cards or started trimming product lines, another indication that the Ampere cards are not yet in production.

    Taken as a whole, along with the utter lack of Nvidia hyping an announcement, it is unlikely Ampere will be released in 2020. It is possible they will try and get something to market by Black Friday but that window is closing rapidly.

    I don't think anything suggests it is likely or unlikely that Ampere will release this year. It's just the usual specualtion with neither version of events truly taking precent over the other. I can see COVID-19 playing a potential role in a delay to 2021, but even that is mere speculation. Techradar has a good dicussion on it.

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