Photoshop CS6

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  • TaozTaoz Posts: 9,979
    nicstt said:
    Taoz said:
    McGyver said:

    Subcription software is a rent seeking money grab, it's meant to tether one perpetually to that vendor and removes one's freedom to use a software until the consumer deems the current improvements warrant upgrade or repurchase... if it wasn't a money grab, the vendor would still include the option to buy a copy and leave that decision as to the value of "continual bug fixes and product support" to the customer. 

    I agree when talking about Adobe's subscription model, but some companies like Jetbrains have a perpetual fallback licence where you can keep an older version of the program if you cancel the subscription after a certain period. 

    Yeh, I like what they do; love their UI too, but as don't do java I never ended up getting it commercially. For c# I need to integration with power shell that studio has. It's a hastle with jetbrains' version.

    Nothing can beat Visual Studio with its Windows Forms and WPF GUI tools.  I hope MS eventually will make something similar that is fully cross platform, but it's hard to predict what they will do, they keep changing things all the time which is rather confusing.  I subscribe to Jetbrains All Products Pack, got a good offer as an existing customer when they shifted to subscription so I only pay €149/year for it.  It's mostly for Resharper which IMO is indispensable in Visual Studio, but the full package offer was only a bit more than Resharper alone so I took that instead, it has a lot of useful tools. 

     

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    Pixel8ted said:
    nicstt said:
    Taoz said:
    nicstt said:

    Is the "new" copy of this for sale n Ebay a legal licensed product? Anyone know a way to tell for sure.?

    It's legality is dubious at best.

    It's owned by Adobe. They don't sell it any more, only rent.

    If it was a legitimate copy it would be somewhere around $1000.

    $1000?  Used or new?

    Either.

    I saw a boxed version for sale a while back with manuals etc. You won't get new.

    If it had a printed manual,  it had to be CS2 or an earlier version because CS2 was the last version that included a printed manual. 

    Hmm, probably mis-remember what was in the box; I'm certain it was CS6 as I offered 600 for it.

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    Taoz said:
    nicstt said:
    Taoz said:
    McGyver said:

    Subcription software is a rent seeking money grab, it's meant to tether one perpetually to that vendor and removes one's freedom to use a software until the consumer deems the current improvements warrant upgrade or repurchase... if it wasn't a money grab, the vendor would still include the option to buy a copy and leave that decision as to the value of "continual bug fixes and product support" to the customer. 

    I agree when talking about Adobe's subscription model, but some companies like Jetbrains have a perpetual fallback licence where you can keep an older version of the program if you cancel the subscription after a certain period. 

    Yeh, I like what they do; love their UI too, but as don't do java I never ended up getting it commercially. For c# I need to integration with power shell that studio has. It's a hastle with jetbrains' version.

    Nothing can beat Visual Studio with its Windows Forms and WPF GUI tools.  I hope MS eventually will make something similar that is fully cross platform, but it's hard to predict what they will do, they keep changing things all the time which is rather confusing.  I subscribe to Jetbrains All Products Pack, got a good offer as an existing customer when they shifted to subscription so I only pay €149/year for it.  It's mostly for Resharper which IMO is indispensable in Visual Studio, but the full package offer was only a bit more than Resharper alone so I took that instead, it has a lot of useful tools. 

     

    Work subscribe to resharper for me; they won't do it for anyone else though lol.

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 11,682
    nicstt said:
    Pixel8ted said:
    nicstt said:
    Taoz said:
    nicstt said:

    Is the "new" copy of this for sale n Ebay a legal licensed product? Anyone know a way to tell for sure.?

    It's legality is dubious at best.

    It's owned by Adobe. They don't sell it any more, only rent.

    If it was a legitimate copy it would be somewhere around $1000.

    $1000?  Used or new?

    Either.

    I saw a boxed version for sale a while back with manuals etc. You won't get new.

    If it had a printed manual,  it had to be CS2 or an earlier version because CS2 was the last version that included a printed manual. 

    Hmm, probably mis-remember what was in the box; I'm certain it was CS6 as I offered 600 for it.

    The manual for Photoshop-CS5 was available separately.  I believe I saw my copy in my storage box when I looked yesterday.  But that box is on the floor, behind my computer and I'm just not going to get on my knees again to unload and verify.

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 9,979
    nicstt said:
    Taoz said:
    nicstt said:
    Taoz said:
    McGyver said:

    Subcription software is a rent seeking money grab, it's meant to tether one perpetually to that vendor and removes one's freedom to use a software until the consumer deems the current improvements warrant upgrade or repurchase... if it wasn't a money grab, the vendor would still include the option to buy a copy and leave that decision as to the value of "continual bug fixes and product support" to the customer. 

    I agree when talking about Adobe's subscription model, but some companies like Jetbrains have a perpetual fallback licence where you can keep an older version of the program if you cancel the subscription after a certain period. 

    Yeh, I like what they do; love their UI too, but as don't do java I never ended up getting it commercially. For c# I need to integration with power shell that studio has. It's a hastle with jetbrains' version.

    Nothing can beat Visual Studio with its Windows Forms and WPF GUI tools.  I hope MS eventually will make something similar that is fully cross platform, but it's hard to predict what they will do, they keep changing things all the time which is rather confusing.  I subscribe to Jetbrains All Products Pack, got a good offer as an existing customer when they shifted to subscription so I only pay €149/year for it.  It's mostly for Resharper which IMO is indispensable in Visual Studio, but the full package offer was only a bit more than Resharper alone so I took that instead, it has a lot of useful tools. 

     

    Work subscribe to resharper for me; they won't do it for anyone else though lol.

    Poor guys, having to do things the hard way... laugh

  • UnseenUnseen Posts: 663
    edited June 2020

    Is the "new" copy of this for sale n Ebay a legal licensed product? Anyone know a way to tell for sure.?

    I purchased Photoshop CS5 on Ebay when CS6 was released and I was happy to have paid with Paypal because it was a copy sold by a person located in the UK (I am in the EU). So I ended up buying CS6 from Amazon because it was more secure. 

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  • lilweeplilweep Posts: 2,561

    I've been using Photoshop since i was like 12 years old.  I always just pirated it from torrent sites until a couple of years ago when i manned up and paid the subscription fee.

    It's easy to sub to thing for a low monthly fee, but then you forget all the services you're signed up for.  Wish there was a way to package Photoshop with Substance Painter on creative cloud.

  • Roman_K2Roman_K2 Posts: 1,253
    edited July 2020

    In recent years I bought a Norton Ghost and a Corel Draw X6 on Ebay and they both turned out to be dubious, gray market "editions" on a purple, home brew DVD. Arrrgh! I should have read the fine print more carefully. Not recommended unless you really know what you're doing. In the case of Ghost I had purchased the last version at a chain store, but then I misplaced my master disc, thus locking myself out of the system!!!

    One reason to perhaps want older software is that the system requirements and overhead may be lower. And new features and tweaks often have a cost associated with them in terms of increased learning curve and having to move out of your comfort zone.

    I have seen repeated mentions of Photoshop having extra bells and whistles — like some sort of ability to work in 3D??? — and if I'm not mistaken this is supposed to have begun with the superdeluxe, "pro", "whizbang" version or versions of CS6. Hard to pin down exactly what is going on! I imagine any 3D function or extension would be similar to Mesh Grabber but I'm *only guessing* and it eludes me where the extra "whizbang" geometry would be coming from.

    Around the time that these... mentions started, there were... suggested links of PS being an "official partner" of DAZ 3D, or vice-versa... I forget which.

    Right now (summer 2020, pandemic etc.) when you go to https://auth.services.adobe.com it looks like they really, really, really want you to sign in and there are Google ID and Facebook ID link-ups which don't exactly turn me on. I think I have an article from WIRED saved someplace that suggests why this is a bad idea.

    I assume though that if a person wants to play in this court you have to sign up for their entire program and DRM and AFAIK that means the Creative Cloud.

    (Edit) Of possible interest in the graphics category: http://www.oldversion.com/windows/software/graphics/

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  • TaozTaoz Posts: 9,979
    Roman_K2 said:

    Right now (summer 2020, pandemic etc.) when you go to https://auth.services.adobe.com it looks like they really, really, really want you to sign in and there are Google ID and Facebook ID link-ups which don't exactly turn me on. I think I have an article from WIRED saved someplace that suggests why this is a bad idea.

    I always avoid using logins from google and other social media sites on other sites, it's probably just a way to collect more information about you. 

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