Louisiana Questions
NylonGirl
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https://www.daz3d.com/louisiana-hd-for-genesis-8-and-darcy-8
Can somebody explain to me how the Louisiana character depends on Darcy? Even if I click on the "Head with Darcy" preset, if I click on the Shaping tab and click on "Currently Used", there is no percentage of Darcy shown. Both characters are installed.
Also, are the promo pictures using just the Louisiana morphs? Maybe I've gone even more loopy than usual, but to me it seems like the face in the promo pictures is shaped differently from the one generated by the character preset. I've tried lots of camera angles and focal lengths.
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It looks like she probably isn't working properly. As you note, there's a separate "Louisiana Head for Darcy" preset, but if you use either the preset or parameter, none of Darcy gets called. It's likely that the link between Louisiana and Darcy's head got broken at some point, and nobody noticed, because the Louisiana Head for Darcy actually does change the shape of her head on its own.
It may be that most of the promos are done with the La. for Darcy head, with or without Darcy dialed in. (Although, honestly, I can't figure out how to get there with Darcy and Louisiana. The closest I can get is with Louisiana's head and La. for Darcy both at 100% [which is just what the La. for Darcy slider does on its own], and even then, she has a very sharp chin and looks older.)
Below is Louisiana with Darcy at 30% and at 60%, and with Louisiana for Darcy head dialed in with no Darcy. Doesn't particularly look like the promos; I think something is weird with those.
Louisiana for Darcy 8 head With 30% Darcy
Louisiana for Darcy 8 head with 60% Darcy
Louisiana for Darcy 8 head with NO Darcy
Here is what she looks like with and without that Louisiana Head for Darcy setting
Yeah, it looks like a bug. The head for Darcy should dial in some Darcy, otherwise the Darcy 8 requirement makes no sense. It's not hard to dial in some Darcy, but it doesn't sound like it's working as intended.
Well I have submitted a support ticket and I can't wait to see how it goes.
Did anything get resolved with this issue?
She's on sale and the promos look great, but I'm not going to buy a broken morph even if the sale is good.
Nope.
There's nothing "broken" about the morph. The character looks great. There are two different head morphs. Louisiana for G8F and Louisiana for Darcy 8 are two different head morphs.
There have been other "for x 8" characters that don't use any of the named base characters. After closer examination, it appears that the Darcy head was used as a base for the Darcy morph, rather than relying on dialing in Darcy.
In the attached, you see 4 renders using Louisiana's skin. One's base G8F, one is vanilla Louisiana, one is the Louisiana for Darcy head, and finally there's vanilla Louisiana with 50 pct Darcy dialed in. The last two look a lot alike, so yeah, the Louisiana for Darcy morph has some Darcy in it. I don't know how much.
NB: I didn't dial in any of the HD morph.
Did they respond at all? Say they are looking into it? When I’ve reported bugs, it has often taken as long as 6 months for them to fix them.
It's not necessarily a bug. You get two different head morphs, one of which has features from Darcy, like the ears that you don't get with the non-Darcy version. The bonus is that you get the influence of Darcy's features, whether you own Darcy or not.
Then is is a bug or labeled incorrectly. If it doesn't require Darcy for either head morph then it shouldn't be labeled as such. How about head morph 1 and head morph 2? The product page says it requires darcy 8 but if no part of Darcy 8 is dialed in, then that is wrong
If it bothers you, then put in a support ticket. Mind you, they have enough real problems to deal with.
I did get a response on 28 July, which I responded to, directing the support person to this thread. I got a second response on 30 July. My original concern was not just that the second morph didn't trigger Darcy at all. It was also that the face of the character didn't seem to have the same shape as the character in the promo pictures. I had read somewhere that DAZ doesn't like people posting in forums about customer support responses, so I don't know how much I can say about it before somebody heaves a bosom. But the support person did seem to agree there was a problem. As far as I know, the case has not been closed yet. And maybe the character has been updated since then. Neither Sevrin's example renders nor the ones I did myself today, exhibit the worst problems I remember seeing before. But the change log doesn't list any updates.