Can't save renders after Windows update this morning (Still not Working)

gerterasmusgerterasmus Posts: 287
edited July 2020 in The Commons

So now I have a render that I can't save. All I get is a 'File Save Error' message with 'Could not save file to : "C:/Users/WhateverLocationI/TypeIn"'

Anyone have any ideas what the problem might be? I've tried 'Render Target - Direct to file' and still get the same error. 

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  • LeanaLeana Posts: 11,845

    Folder has been set to readonly for whatever reason?

  • gerterasmusgerterasmus Posts: 287

    I've made new folders, doesn't save to anything.

     

  • gerterasmusgerterasmus Posts: 287
    Leana said:

    Folder has been set to readonly for whatever reason?

    Thanks @Leana

    Seems like my whole PC's folders were changed to read only. Thanks Windows.

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 11,845
    edited July 2020

    I suppose you've already checked that there was enough free space on the drive?

    edit: I see it's now resolved, good news :)

    Windows tends to do weird things from time to time, especially for folders in places the system uses directly like  Users and Programs.

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  • Charlie JudgeCharlie Judge Posts: 12,911
    edited July 2020
    Leana said:

    Folder has been set to readonly for whatever reason?

    Thanks @Leana

    Seems like my whole PC's folders were changed to read only. Thanks Windows.

    Hmmm, That is pretty disconcerting and could cause a lot of problems for a lot of people. I wonder if if that is happening to everybody with the update? Does anybody else have any experience with todays Windows update, especially the one for windws 10 Pro?

    Post edited by Charlie Judge on
  • Saxa -- SDSaxa -- SD Posts: 872
    Leana said:
     

    Windows 10 tends to do weird things from time to time, especially for folders in places the system uses directly like  Users and Programs.

    Edited that a bit.  Based on reading last few years,  Win10 seems to keep giving update surprises.  :Eyeroll:

    Still on Win7 for all my computers, no update fun here. laugh

    If only Linux was more widely used as an alt.

     

  • doubledeviantdoubledeviant Posts: 1,190
    Leana said:
     

    Windows 10 tends to do weird things from time to time, especially for folders in places the system uses directly like  Users and Programs.

    Edited that a bit.  Based on reading last few years,  Win10 seems to keep giving update surprises.  :Eyeroll:

    Still on Win7 for all my computers, no update fun here. laugh

    If only Linux was more widely used as an alt.

     

    I just purchased a new machine, and I was debating whether to update its version of Windows 10 or not. I did some reading, and it looks like Windows 10 updates over the past year have caused a LOT of problems, including blue-screen-of-death. It's become a meme at this point.
  • gerterasmusgerterasmus Posts: 287
    edited July 2020

    Still no joy. Took the read only off all folders, and still can't save. PhotoShop and everything else have no problem saving, only DAZ.

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  • It could be for what ever reason after your windows update, Daz is no longer a "trusted" application. 

    Try Windows troubleshooter :

    1. Press Windows + X key.

    2. Go to Control panel.
    3. In the search box, type Troubleshooter and then click Troubleshooting.
    4. Under System and Security,
    5. Click on System Maintenance and Click on Next button. 

    Plan B would be to set up a new Windows account on your PC and see if the problem persists:

    To create a new test user account follow the steps below:

    1. Press Windows key + X and select Command Prompt (Admin).
    2. Type net user NewAccount password /add and click Enter.
    3. Type net localgroup Administrators NewAccount /add  and click Enter.
    4. Log off from the system and login to the new user account.
    5. If your start menu and other applications work fine then you can transfer all your data to the new account.
    6. Remember your new account name is "NewAccount" and it's password is "password" as mentioned in the commands.

     

  • dannagiusy64dannagiusy64 Posts: 467

    I also did the update and it gives me several errors. What can I do?

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  • Kev914Kev914 Posts: 1,115

    Maybe you should try re-installing Daz Studio. When my pc updated to Windows 10 2004, my backup software, Macrium Reflect, got converted to the free version. And Chrome was missing it's icon and wasn't working right. I re-installed those programs and they are both fine now.

  • run4realrun4real Posts: 94

    Maybe you could try to remove the following Windows Updates KB4565483, KB4565633, KB4565554 (rollback) and restart your computer and check then if the problem persists and also check your Event Viewer after your tried to save a file. Microsoft wrote for e.g. for KB4565483 that a highlight was the following: Updates for storing and managing files. see https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4565483/windows-10-update-kb4565483

     

  • dannagiusy64dannagiusy64 Posts: 467

     how do I go back to the previous version?

    modeller said:

    Maybe you could try to remove the following Windows Updates KB4565483, KB4565633, KB4565554 (rollback) and restart your computer and check then if the problem persists and also check your Event Viewer after your tried to save a file. Microsoft wrote for e.g. for KB4565483 that a highlight was the following: Updates for storing and managing files. see https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4565483/windows-10-update-kb4565483

     

     

  • dannagiusy64dannagiusy64 Posts: 467

    if i uninstall daz to reinstall it from the control panel do i also have to uninstall SQL CMS? 

    KevinH said:

    Maybe you should try re-installing Daz Studio. When my pc updated to Windows 10 2004, my backup software, Macrium Reflect, got converted to the free version. And Chrome was missing it's icon and wasn't working right. I re-installed those programs and they are both fine now.

     

  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,310

    if i uninstall daz to reinstall it from the control panel do i also have to uninstall SQL CMS? 

    KevinH said:

    Maybe you should try re-installing Daz Studio. When my pc updated to Windows 10 2004, my backup software, Macrium Reflect, got converted to the free version. And Chrome was missing it's icon and wasn't working right. I re-installed those programs and they are both fine now.

     

    Maybe?  Remember that the problem didn't originate with Daz, but with Microsoft, and MS obviously have no clue.

  • dannagiusy64dannagiusy64 Posts: 467

    ok, but then what can be done? 

    Sevrin said:

    if i uninstall daz to reinstall it from the control panel do i also have to uninstall SQL CMS? 

    KevinH said:

    Maybe you should try re-installing Daz Studio. When my pc updated to Windows 10 2004, my backup software, Macrium Reflect, got converted to the free version. And Chrome was missing it's icon and wasn't working right. I re-installed those programs and they are both fine now.

     

    Maybe?  Remember that the problem didn't originate with Daz, but with Microsoft, and MS obviously have no clue.

     

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 11,681
    edited July 2020

    For what it's worth, I've upgraded my Win10-Pro to an early manual offering of "Feature Update 2004" and also the latest officially offered two fixes in the automatic Quality Update "2020-07" (KB4565503and KB4565627)  I've had no problem with DAZ after the updates.yes 

    However, the "Feature Update 2004" does introduce a problem for SSD drives causing them to be automatically defragged(aka: "trimmed" on an SSD) more often than necessary, (like literally every time you turn the system on or more)  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffHIY6pOJUk  There's a workarounds but it stops all automatic defrag/trim checks for the drivesad.  Yeah, we need a fix for the update.frown  Currently recommend not updating to the "Feature Update 2004" until it is offically released as an automatic update and unavoidable.enlightened 

    Note I actually like the new features introduced with Feature Update 2004, but the SSD bug is annoying.

     

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  • run4realrun4real Posts: 94

     how do I go back to the previous version?

    modeller said:

    Maybe you could try to remove the following Windows Updates KB4565483, KB4565633, KB4565554 (rollback) and restart your computer and check then if the problem persists and also check your Event Viewer after your tried to save a file. Microsoft wrote for e.g. for KB4565483 that a highlight was the following: Updates for storing and managing files. see https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4565483/windows-10-update-kb4565483

     

     

     

    1. Open Start menu and click on the cog icon to open Settings.

    2. In Settings, head into Update & security.

    3. Click on the - View Update History - or - View installed update history -

    4. On the Windows Update history page, click on - Uninstall updates -

    5. On the next screen, you will be presented with a list of recent Windows Updates.

    You can sort the list by installation date or you can also search through all of
    the installed/active updates using the search box at the top right. e.g. KB4565483

    6. Select the update.

    7. Click the - Uninstall - button.

    Click -Yes- on the confirmation box to uninstall the update.

    Reboot your computer to finish the process.

    Hope this helps!

  • If you are using Windows 10 and Windows Defender (meaning not a third party antivirus program like Norton or Avast), there might be some help here:

    https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/after-windows-update-1903-not-able-to-save-files/c79b3f27-2633-4e00-96ef-45a6891d039d

    Disclaimer 1: I updated Windows 10 this morning and have not had any problems so far, but I do not use Windows Defender.

    Disclaimer 2: I do not know "Controlled folder access" in Windows Defender is good or bad. 

     

  • LedLeechLedLeech Posts: 18
    edited July 2020

    Before anyone does a rollback, or uninstalls anything, I'd reccomend running the program as an administrator. If that doesn't solve it, it may be a permission or ownership issue. Permissions can usually be fixed easily by right clicking a folder, in this case your Daz 3D folder and clicking on Properties, then go to the Security tab, find Administrators and make sure "Full Control" is toggled to Allow, if not simply click edit and set it yourself.

    Edit: To avoid confusion, I'm specifically talking about the main Daz 3D folder containing the executables.

    Post edited by LedLeech on
  • tj_1ca9500btj_1ca9500b Posts: 2,057
    edited July 2020

    I isolated my current Daz machine from the internet about a year and a half ago.  It's amazing how few problems I have now that Windows can't phone home anymore!

    Of course, I'm still running an older Daz install.  I manually install packages into the DIM Download folder, DIM seems to work just fine with that.  DIM hasn't wigged out either since I took that system offline.  I could theoretically upgrade to the latest Daz version manually, but I don't want to, at least on that machine  The 'multiple instances' change thing looks annoying, so I'm happy with what I have for now.

    My next machine will have a newer Studio install, I have a more recent version of Daz Studio on an external drive ready for that day, but yeah, Windows updates can be friggin' annoying!  I had issues with one of the updates a while back, and while I did end up fixing the issues... well at some point you just get tired of being Microsoft's unwilling Guinea Pig.  I may end up isolating the new machine as well once it's up and running.

    Post edited by tj_1ca9500b on
  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,877
    LedLeech said:

    Before anyone does a rollback, or uninstalls anything, I'd reccomend running the program as an administrator. If that doesn't solve it, it may be a permission or ownership issue. Permissions can usually be fixed easily by right clicking a folder, in this case your Daz 3D folder and clicking on Properties, then go to the Security tab, find Administrators and make sure "Full Control" is toggled to Allow, if not simply click edit and set it yourself.

    Edit: To avoid confusion, I'm specifically talking about the main Daz 3D folder containing the executables.

    Don't try to run DS as administrator, it won't work (and could cause problems if it did).

  • LedLeechLedLeech Posts: 18
    edited July 2020

    Really? that seems odd to say the least. I still believe it could be a permission issue though. Windows 10 tends to lock up stuff, as others have noted above.

    Post edited by LedLeech on
  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,172

    I swear I'm going to stay on Windows 8.1.1 until NOTHING works anymore. LOL

    Laurie

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,623

    my Win10 wants to update, I am scared

  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,613
    AllenArt said:

    I swear I'm going to stay on Windows 8.1.1 until NOTHING works anymore. LOL

    Laurie

    Win 7 for me.

  • FishtalesFishtales Posts: 6,162

    I updated mine a few days ago and everything has been fine...so far surprise

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,680

    Did the windows update a day ago, and studio is fine.

  • NorthOf45NorthOf45 Posts: 5,558

    If you are using Windows 10 and Windows Defender (meaning not a third party antivirus program like Norton or Avast), there might be some help here:

    https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/after-windows-update-1903-not-able-to-save-files/c79b3f27-2633-4e00-96ef-45a6891d039d

    Disclaimer 1: I updated Windows 10 this morning and have not had any problems so far, but I do not use Windows Defender.

    Disclaimer 2: I do not know "Controlled folder access" in Windows Defender is good or bad. 

     

    That "Controlled folder access" can be a pain. Maybe the update turned it on by default; it protects, among other things, pretty much any folder under Users. I tried to work with it at first, but it seemed like every action I did was denied, and the notifications were so long that they didn't fit in the space provided, so I couldn't tell which module was being blocked. Finally turned it off and never had any problems. Just don't run any shady programs, or run them in a sandbox if you aren't sure.

  • dannagiusy64dannagiusy64 Posts: 467

    I had to send a ticket to support because I uninstalled and reinstalled daz. I am having many problems in the directories then I also uninstalled install manager. The latter does not see the programs already installed and asks me to install them. I do not know what to do. I'm 8 hours behind this. Also where did my plugins go? piantopianto

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