Do you have NVIDIA card in your system if, not don't waste your time.

bf2011

If you're happened to be very new to Daz and wish to learn it, consider the fact that unless your pc has a great graphics card, you will have a lot more frustration than fun creating content in Daz. If your current computer is not specifically designed for digital art creation on gaming everythyng you try to do will be super slow. From opening the program to simulations to even saving your file and rendering. Expect your system resources not being able to keep up with Daz studio demands of the cpu and gpu in your 4 yr. old computer that does not have at least 8 core prosessor or Nvidia card in it. As a result Daz will crash or stop working often.

 

fixmypcmike

In DS, F2 > Interface, what is "Display Optimization" set to?  Except for Iray GPU rendering you don't need a great video card.  I have a 9-year-old laptop, quad-core i7, 8GB RAM, Geforce 525M GPU.  Can't do Iray GPU rendering since DS4.10 (and it wasn't much help anyway, with only 96 CUDA cores).  I prefer 3delight anyway.  It runs fine for everything else.

bf2011

Fixmypcmike said:

In DS, F2 > Interface, what is "Display Optimization" set to?  Except for Iray GPU rendering you don't need a great video card.  I have a 9-year-old laptop, quad-core i7, 8GB RAM, Geforce 525M GPU.  Can't do Iray GPU rendering since DS4.10 (and it wasn't much help anyway, with only 96 CUDA cores).  I prefer 3delight anyway.  It runs fine for everything else.

I have 4 yr old Toshiba 4 core Intel 16gb ram. My gpu is not Geoforce. It just took me 30 min to run a 60 frame dForce hair simulation. And than i assigned dynamic dForce surface to a simple pillow object it gone like 10% into simulation until daz stoped working. And that's after completely restarting my laptop after the first time it took 10 min to "save file". I think maybe after 2-3 mo. plating with daz and putting heavy demand on my cpu,gpu memory or whatever else some of those hardware components may have deteriorated due to heavy demmand on the system.

contedesfees

Iray wants a good Nvidia card; there's no way around that. Get the best one you can afford if you wish to use Iray. I installed a 4GB GTX 1650 and consider that the minimum.

bf2011

contedesfees said:

Iray wants a good Nvidia card; there's no way around that. Get the best one you can afford if you wish to use Iray. I installed a 4GB GTX 1650 and consider that the minimum.

I'm thinking gtx 2060 6gb or higher if it fits my budget. But I'm curious, how is 1650 working out for you? I don't think I'm interested in rendering animations, just decent quality images.

WendyLuvsCatz

well now you do have the Blender bridge 

bf2011

WendyLuvsCatz said:

well now you do have the Blender bridge 

What's that all about? I been playing with blender about the same as daz, a few month. Thanks gonna have to check it out.

nonesuch00

bfarber2011 said:

contedesfees said:

Iray wants a good Nvidia card; there's no way around that. Get the best one you can afford if you wish to use Iray. I installed a 4GB GTX 1650 and consider that the minimum.

 

I'm thinking gtx 2060 6gb or higher if it fits my budget. But I'm curious, how is 1650 working out for you? I don't think I'm interested in rendering animations, just decent quality images.

I have a GeForce GTX 1650 4GB GDDR5 mobile with I think it's 892 cude cores and it it took 2 hours to do a render that my Ryzen 7 2700 with 8 cores/16 threads 32GB DDR4 CPU rendered in 3 hours. So the 1650 was 33% faster than my CPU render but those aren't the sort of numbers that knock your socks off. That is integrated in a laptop so can't be bought by endusers without buying an entire laptop.

Soon I will be adding a 2nd GPU to my desktop computer, current one is an MSI Radeon RX 570 8GB RAM, and that is also a GeForce GTX 1650 Super 4GB GDDR6 and in this case it has 1280 cuda cores with should cut render times down to either about 1 hour or 1 1/2 hours. I think 1 1/2 hours is correct estimate since it has only about 50% more cuda cores than the mobile GPU (1280 cuda vs 896 cuda). This card is a PCIe x16 with one fan but dual slots  and goes for $150 - $175 USD. Still nothing to knock your socks off. 5 minutes or less per 4K iRay render is what I consider 'knocking my socks off'.

That said, it is an huge impovement of 12 hours to 36 hours over CPU renders on my old laptop's i7-3630QM CPU with 16GB RAM.

DMax

WendyLuvsCatz said:

well now you do have the Blender bridge 

@WendyLuvsCatz

How does Blender work? In your opinion, does Blender render work as well as an nVidia Iray render on DS?
Asking this because if it does, then I might revert to my Mac and not require my recently purchased Dell with nVidia which was specifically purchased for DS+Iray.
Is Blender similar to DS in terms of usage and functions, etc... hopefully the learning curve isn't as steep.

WendyLuvsCatz

DMax said:

WendyLuvsCatz said:

well now you do have the Blender bridge 

@WendyLuvsCatz

How does Blender work? In your opinion, does Blender render work as well as an nVidia Iray render on DS?
Asking this because if it does, then I might revert to my Mac and not require my recently purchased Dell with nVidia which was specifically purchased for DS+Iray.
Is Blender similar to DS in terms of usage and functions, etc... hopefully the learning curve isn't as steep.

I don't find Blender easy at all 

it is however a very robust software but has a difficult user interface 

those who master it love it, I am not anywhere near there yet 

just mentioned the new free bridge because it might suit some

bf2011

WendyLuvsCatz said:

DMax said:

WendyLuvsCatz said:

well now you do have the Blender bridge 

@WendyLuvsCatz

How does Blender work? In your opinion, does Blender render work as well as an nVidia Iray render on DS?
Asking this because if it does, then I might revert to my Mac and not require my recently purchased Dell with nVidia which was specifically purchased for DS+Iray.
Is Blender similar to DS in terms of usage and functions, etc... hopefully the learning curve isn't as steep.

I don't find Blender easy at all 

it is however a very robust software but has a difficult user interface 

those who master it love it, I am not anywhere near there yet 

just mentioned the new free bridge because it might suit some

Thanks. And yes I agree, blender is a lot harder to master than daz, im trying. But for those who know blender sky is the limit, you can do pretty much anything your mind can imagine in Blender if you can master it. And you can render a scene in 15 min in cycles. Daz has it's limitations but it's a lot more suitable for posing human fugures at this point. Anyway gonna try the Bridge, hope I don't loose daz shaders and textures during transfer as when importing OBJ to Blender from Daz.

bf2011

DMax said:

WendyLuvsCatz said:

well now you do have the Blender bridge 

@WendyLuvsCatz

How does Blender work? In your opinion, does Blender render work as well as an nVidia Iray render on DS?
Asking this because if it does, then I might revert to my Mac and not require my recently purchased Dell with nVidia which was specifically purchased for DS+Iray.
Is Blender similar to DS in terms of usage and functions, etc... hopefully the learning curve isn't as steep.

I am just a beginner in both but from my limited experience nothing so far beats rendering in Iray in terms of quality. On the flip side in Blender Cycles render engine you can render a scene in 20 min. that would take 2 hours or more to render in Daz. And Evie is another blender engine that will render your scene in 1/4 time it takes in Cycles but with less details. Interface is quite different from Daz but it's also a free program and there is planty of YouTube tutorials. You can build props in Blender and import them into daz so you don't have to spend $ on them. You could build the whole human character and rig it if you wanted to from scratch, but that requires skill i don't posses at this point.

bf2011

nonesuch00 said:

bfarber2011 said:

contedesfees said:

Iray wants a good Nvidia card; there's no way around that. Get the best one you can afford if you wish to use Iray. I installed a 4GB GTX 1650 and consider that the minimum.

 

I'm thinking gtx 2060 6gb or higher if it fits my budget. But I'm curious, how is 1650 working out for you? I don't think I'm interested in rendering animations, just decent quality images.

I have a GeForce GTX 1650 4GB GDDR5 mobile with I think it's 892 cude cores and it it took 2 hours to do a render that my Ryzen 7 2700 with 8 cores/16 threads 32GB DDR4 CPU rendered in 3 hours. So the 1650 was 33% faster than my CPU render but those aren't the sort of numbers that knock your socks off. That is integrated in a laptop so can't be bought by endusers without buying an entire laptop.

Soon I will be adding a 2nd GPU to my desktop computer, current one is an MSI Radeon RX 570 8GB RAM, and that is also a GeForce GTX 1650 Super 4GB GDDR6 and in this case it has 1280 cuda cores with should cut render times down to either about 1 hour or 1 1/2 hours. I think 1 1/2 hours is correct estimate since it has only about 50% more cuda cores than the mobile GPU (1280 cuda vs 896 cuda). This card is a PCIe x16 with one fan but dual slots  and goes for $150 - $175 USD. Still nothing to knock your socks off. 5 minutes or less per 4K iRay render is what I consider 'knocking my socks off'.

That said, it is an huge impovement of 12 hours to 36 hours over CPU renders on my old laptop's i7-3630QM CPU with 16GB RAM.

Thank you for letting me know! ????

nonesuch00

bfarber2011 said:

nonesuch00 said:

bfarber2011 said:

contedesfees said:

 

Thank you for letting me know! ???

bfarber2011 said:

 

bfarber2011 said:

No problem. So now you know you really need a top flight nVidia card from the 20XX (or 30XX when they comeout) to get FHD and higher res  render times less than 30 minutes.

3WC

bfarber2011 said:

blender is a lot harder to master than daz.

Just like a Boeing 747 is a lot harder to pilot than a skateboard.... But there is so much more you can do with it. ;)

bf2011

3WC said:

bfarber2011 said:

blender is a lot harder to master than daz.

Just like a Boeing 747 is a lot harder to pilot than a skateboard.... But there is so much more you can do with it. ;)

For sure!

anthony.luigi_05ebfcd7e7

bfarber2011 said:

If you're happened to be very new to Daz and wish to learn it, consider the fact that unless your pc has a great graphics card, you will have a lot more frustration than fun creating content in Daz. If your current computer is not specifically designed for digital art creation on gaming everythyng you try to do will be super slow. From opening the program to simulations to even saving your file and rendering. Expect your system resources not being able to keep up with Daz studio demands of the cpu and gpu in your 4 yr. old computer that does not have at least 8 core prosessor or Nvidia card in it. As a result Daz will crash or stop working often.

I had a GTX 980Ti and it was decent. Upped to a 1080TI and noticed a big improvement all around. Next upgrade will be the 3080TI when Daz suppots it and all the bugs are worked out. IRAY rocks! Always go for the most onboard RAM in your card as well as you can afford.

 

bf2011

anthony.luigi_05ebfcd7e7 said:

bfarber2011 said:

If you're happened to be very new to Daz and wish to learn it, consider the fact that unless your pc has a great graphics card, you will have a lot more frustration than fun creating content in Daz. If your current computer is not specifically designed for digital art creation on gaming everythyng you try to do will be super slow. From opening the program to simulations to even saving your file and rendering. Expect your system resources not being able to keep up with Daz studio demands of the cpu and gpu in your 4 yr. old computer that does not have at least 8 core prosessor or Nvidia card in it. As a result Daz will crash or stop working often.

I had a GTX 980Ti and it was decent. Upped to a 1080TI and noticed a big improvement all around. Next upgrade will be the 3080TI when Daz suppots it and all the bugs are worked out. IRAY rocks! Always go for the most onboard RAM in your card as well as you can afford.

 

From what i read about it the problem is you can't just install 20xx series nvidia gpu into any old laptop. It doesn't fit. So you have to spend around $2000 on a new computer with nvid in it or use an adopter cord and loose 30% to 40% of gpu performance.