Looking for true 3d smoke/clouds/fire.

jd641jd641 Posts: 459

I just bought this: https://www.daz3d.com/iray-clouds and while the cloulds look great, the setup is based on billboards so it's not what I was looking for. Basically I'm looking for is smoke/cloud or fire + plume that could be rotated 360 degrees and be viewed from any angle and give off the impression that it's a fully formed 3d object.

 

Thanks.

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,618
    edited August 2020

    you will need to use 3Delight for true volumetric clouds in DAZ studio because iray so far doesn't support it

    https://www.daz3d.com/hd-volumetric-clouds

    or in general https://www.daz3d.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=volumetric%20clouds

    all you can do is use transmapped planes in various arrangements or a software that does volumetrics such as Blender, Bryce, Carrara or if you can afford it Octane render not the DAZ studio plugin

    Post edited by WendyLuvsCatz on
  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,260

    ..I have this

    https://www.daz3d.com/cloudscape-creator-bundle

    A little expensive but it allows for making layered cloud effects. and uses actual meshes instead of billboards.

    There is also this:

    https://www.daz3d.com/hd-volumetric-clouds

  • kwanniekwannie Posts: 870

     

    Have you tried Animated Clouds from The Philosipher, I have it and it works great.

     

    https://www.daz3d.com/ireal-animated-clouds

  • jd641jd641 Posts: 459
    edited August 2020

    OOoooh those all look great!

    Would it be easy to make a plum/trail of smoke or a billowing puff of cloud coming out of a pipe/exhaust from the iReal clouds?

    Post edited by jd641 on
  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,875
    jd641 said:

    OOoooh those all look great!

    Would it be easy to make a plum/trail of smoke or a billowing puff of cloud coming out of a pipe/exhaust from the iReal clouds?

    Look at the last promo image. It looks like those are billboards. Maybe you shouldn't dismiss billboards so quickly.

  • AlbertoAlberto Posts: 1,442
    jd641 said:

    I just bought this: https://www.daz3d.com/iray-clouds and while the cloulds look great, the setup is based on billboards so it's not what I was looking for. Basically I'm looking for is smoke/cloud or fire + plume that could be rotated 360 degrees and be viewed from any angle and give off the impression that it's a fully formed 3d object.

     

    Thanks.

    You can consider Fluidos II. It can create 3D smoke,clouds and fire.

    https://www.daz3d.com/fluidos-ii-for-daz-studio

     

  • watchdog79watchdog79 Posts: 1,026

    I am not sure if this is what you are loking for as far as fire and smoke are concerned, but I find it amazing: https://www.daz3d.com/iray-fireworx

    I also have this: https://www.daz3d.com/sy-kaboom-iray

    You may also want to check this for smoke effects: https://www.daz3d.com/gnbd-smoke-project--4k-tiff-files

     

  • Sven DullahSven Dullah Posts: 7,621
    Alberto said:
    jd641 said:

    I just bought this: https://www.daz3d.com/iray-clouds and while the cloulds look great, the setup is based on billboards so it's not what I was looking for. Basically I'm looking for is smoke/cloud or fire + plume that could be rotated 360 degrees and be viewed from any angle and give off the impression that it's a fully formed 3d object.

     

    Thanks.

    You can consider Fluidos II. It can create 3D smoke,clouds and fire.

    https://www.daz3d.com/fluidos-ii-for-daz-studio

     

    Wait whatsurprise, Fluidos works on the Mac now? And ships with 3DL mats? surprise...not in my wildest dreams etclaugh

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,260

    ...very expesnve option though.

  • Sven DullahSven Dullah Posts: 7,621
    kyoto kid said:

    ...very expesnve option though.

    Yeah thinking I might just sell my car (and house)...the dog stays of courseindecision

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,260

    ...I've seen whatit can doand yes it's pretty incredible but 119$ and the fact you have to do an animation sim for the effects (which is why I don't use anything dForce) pretty much stops me right there. 

  • AlbertoAlberto Posts: 1,442
    kyoto kid said:

    ...I've seen whatit can doand yes it's pretty incredible but 119$ and the fact you have to do an animation sim for the effects (which is why I don't use anything dForce) pretty much stops me right there. 

    Not necessarily. It can do it without any animation in only one frame (the 0 frame).

    kyoto kid said:

    ...very expesnve option though.

    Yeah thinking I might just sell my car (and house)...the dog stays of courseindecision

    Yes, the dog stays!

    But, remember, in Daz there is always a sale! (in March, some people get it for $27)

  • jd641jd641 Posts: 459
    Alberto said:
    kyoto kid said:

    ...I've seen whatit can doand yes it's pretty incredible but 119$ and the fact you have to do an animation sim for the effects (which is why I don't use anything dForce) pretty much stops me right there. 

    Not necessarily. It can do it without any animation in only one frame (the 0 frame).

    kyoto kid said:

    ...very expesnve option though.

    Yeah thinking I might just sell my car (and house)...the dog stays of courseindecision

    Yes, the dog stays!

    But, remember, in Daz there is always a sale! (in March, some people get it for $27)

    I've had Fluidos on my wishlist for the longest time. Sadly it's waaaaaay out of my price range and I missed that huge discount a few months ago. :(

  • FishtalesFishtales Posts: 6,162

    I used HD Volumetric Clouds in this render.

    Click on image for full size.

  • Sven DullahSven Dullah Posts: 7,621
    Alberto said:
    kyoto kid said:

    ...I've seen whatit can doand yes it's pretty incredible but 119$ and the fact you have to do an animation sim for the effects (which is why I don't use anything dForce) pretty much stops me right there. 

    Not necessarily. It can do it without any animation in only one frame (the 0 frame).

    kyoto kid said:

    ...very expesnve option though.

    Yeah thinking I might just sell my car (and house)...the dog stays of courseindecision

    Yes, the dog stays!

    But, remember, in Daz there is always a sale! (in March, some people get it for $27)

    Right:) Wishlisted:))

  • jd641jd641 Posts: 459
    Fishtales said:

    I used HD Volumetric Clouds in this render.

    Click on image for full size.

    I love the way it's catching and scattering the light throughout the clouds. Very well done!

  • FishtalesFishtales Posts: 6,162
    jd641 said:
    Fishtales said:

    I used HD Volumetric Clouds in this render.

     

    Click on image for full size.

    I love the way it's catching and scattering the light throughout the clouds. Very well done!

    That isn't how it looks straight from the library, I had to work a fair bit with it in the Surface Tab. You have to know how the Volume settings work and how the Chromatic setting affects the light.

  • for Fire try Kindredarts Iray fireworx  https://www.daz3d.com/iray-fireworx you can manipulate the props quite a bit to make them much more realistic (reduce cutout for more see through flames...etc...)

  • MattymanxMattymanx Posts: 6,956
  • Romulus71Romulus71 Posts: 144
    Mattymanx said:

    I've used this and it is a great set of props for backgrounds and any kind of energy or fire wielding characters

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715

    Or try Blender.

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