Blue neck? Hanfu outfit
Serene Night
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In the main promo https://www.daz3d.com/peacock-hanfu-outfit-for-genesis-8-males
There is a blue neck on the figure. Is this or is this not in the outfit? If someone owns it, please let me know. I don't like the blue. Seems strange.
thank you.
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The name in the file listing for the main item and add-ons is Of3d which is new to me. And only two images seem to show that neck color. The clay render has the collar ending below it. I am going to buy it, but just looking around first before building my cart. Will let you know for sure if no one else has before I get a chance Serene Night.
Yeah, thanks. It isn't in the other promos but wanted to make sure it could be hidden. It doesn't match the rest of the set.
I am installing the files now. The textures have 3 files.
So here is a simple render of the base outfit with Lee 8 in the A pose to make this fast. I used Samurai Bun hair too and PRO-Studio HDR Lighting System Light 14 R. No blue neck. But I found a weird set of thumbnails for the base set and textures, not sure if this is from the PA or how Daz will reflect 'fillers' when there is no thumbnails provided.
Update, the thumbnails have now shown up!
Well. without a lot of skilled simmulation expert work on the outfit to get it ready, it will not survive a simulation. It shreds apart. Why can't we get a dForce one for the guys?
Shame the dforce doesn't work. The weight maps might need tweaking. There is this: https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-hanfu-outfit-for-genesis-8-males, and it dforces just fine, but is less detailed.
They don't work? I'd be returning it as not working as the product clearly states dforce.
I went back to the promo page, because when I first looked at it I thought it said it was dForceable, and found this statement, "Peacock Hanfu Outfit for Genesis 8 Male(s) as rigged sleeves and dForce cloth to be easily fit to your character. It is intricately designed and accurately portrayed." I can't find any sliders to adjust the product's sleeves and if it wasn't for Mesh Grabber it would have poke through. The shirt is nice and can be kitbashed with other pants, again, adjust with Mesh Grabber at the armpits and waist areas. I am honestly disappointed but not to the point of returning the product. I am curious how the promo renders were done. The outfit is gorgeous, I just wish the structure lived up to the artistry.
Yeah, I just loaded it up, and there are ZERO adjustment morphs, and neither the shirt not the Hanfu are dforce ready. Adding a dforce modifier and simming with the default setting, makes the shirt and the hanfu explode. Turning off self collide on the shirt stops the exploding, but it needs a weight map to keep it from falling open. The hanfu is layered, sooooooo dforcing that would definitely require some creative weight maps on each layer. Unless you just sim the sleeves, but would still require a weight map.
Sigh.
Edited to add: Also the shirt is only one single surface and the hanfu is only four, so that limits reshadering options without much faffing about with the geometry editor. So if you're like me and refuse to buy texture sets that should be included with the base outfit, be prepared for that.
the people who bought it might need to open a ticket, I was going to wishlist it (still can) but wouldn't want it without Dforce.
I think they must be seriously understaffed with the logout glitching and many faulty products lately.
According to Daz Rawb they have recently take on more staff
https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/430671/is-daz-studio-as-we-know-it-heading-south/p1
Yeah, I have had replies from two of them.
He's talking about the Daz Studio staff, though.
I actually think he was talking about staff in general as Chohole has mentioned new CS staff in a recent post - but I'm probably wrong, I guess you are one of the forums members with insider knowledge the rest of us aren't privy to.
I don't have "insider knowledge" about Daz staff at all. This is my interpretation of Rawb's post, based on the fact that the first part of his sentence was about Daz studio team.
You clearly felt that my interpretation was wrong therfore one would presume that you know for a fact the meaning of his post.
I have submitted a report to Customer Service's Technical Support. I expect it may take a couple weeks before they even look at it. Although I asked they fix the outfit, I bet they will go the easy way out and change the marketing blurb. Sigh.
"rigged sleeves" might mean that the sleeves have custom bones. Expand the garrment in the Scene pane and see if there are custom bones added to move the sleeve forearm area, etc. If so, select one of those bones and you should find sliders in the Parameters pane, to rotate that bone, just like you rotate individual bones for G8M (bend, twist, side-side or XYZ rotate).
@barbult, you called it! I would never had thought to look there. Well that is one mystery solved.
Thank you very much.
Mary
I also updated my report to Daz giving you credit for finding them for me.
Great. I hope the bones give you the posing flexibility you are looking for. Now when you see an ad that says something for Daz Studio is "rigged", you know it means it has bones for posing.
well.. i came to this thread because the text in the promo wasn't clear enough for me... "rigged sleeves and dForce cloth" could mean pretty much anything from "works well without dforce thanks to the rigging but the draping is nicer if you use dforce" (as some products state) to "forget it without dforce it won't work at all and will be stiff as a board, the rigging of the sleeves is just to start the simulation from an accurate place"...
and reading this thread i still don't know what i'm supposed to think. because this product NOT needing dforce would actually have been for me THE reason to buy it: my gcard doesn't do dforce, and i'm so desperate to find Asian traditional robe-like clothing for G8M (also G3M), be it Chinese or Japanese style. the only outfit i have is the old Furisode Genesis, and this is exactly the kind of outfit that will never work well with any other generation even with the best converter...
offtopic: there is a serious lack of Korean traditional outfits (male), the kind you can see in dramas, like stuff from the Joseon period. with all the hats.
Are there any traditional female Korean outfits, either? I don't remember seeing any.
I've seen only noticed female Korean outfit: https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-hanfu-style-dress-and-poses-for-genesis-8-females
Hanfu is Chinese, not Korean. Korean dress is called Hanbok ("fu" and "bok" are the same character, but "Han" refers to different things).
I recall dforcing that Furisode on Genesis 3 at least
possible.. tho what i want is anything NOT dforce. gcard won't cooperate, not openCL compatible...
well, what i REALLY want is a new laptop/PC that can do dforce, and a load of cool dforce realistic clothing, lol, but unless a wonder happens it ain't happening tomorrow...
this is the funny thing about this particular outfit, i was a bit puzzled too... even the promo pics are a bit weird with all that floating around, it's called hanfu on the product page, but imho it looks rather like a hanbok..
but yeah besides that.. i'm not looking for chick stuff, only for male clothing...
There are several styles of hanfu. IIRC this variant is from the Tang dynasty.
seems you're right actually. i don't have much of an idea since i never researched this in any way, so it was interesting to check for images about this on goggle. thx! ^^