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Why do outfits need FBM for Daz Original female characters?

i53570ki53570k Posts: 212
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I don't own any Daz Original and only G8F characters made by PA.  Almost all clothings have FBM made for specific Daz Name 8 females.  Some even include support for non-Daz Original G8F.  Do they make the outfit better?  I own G8M fantasy characters of odd shape and clothing seems to fit them fine. 

Also, if Victoria 8 is the flagship character then why some outfits that come with Name 8 female FBM do not have Victoria 8?  There is also zero support for Daz's own HD Body Shapes https://www.daz3d.com/hd-body-shapes-for-genesis-8-female ?

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  • lilweeplilweep Posts: 2,487

    The clothing/outfit is originally made (i.e., modelled) for a spefic shape.

    Any morphs away from that shape can distort the outfit (especially around breasts etc), so the FBM is just there so that when you morph in the Characters or specific body shapes morphs the FBM or other controlled morphs will add necessary corrections.

    You don't "need" the corrective morphs per se, but as you have mentioned, they are there to make it look better.

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 11,690

    DS will morph the clothes automatically to fit the shape you used (if that shape has "autofollow" enabled), but as with all automatic processes it can sometimes give less than optimal results.

    Those custom-made fit morphs included are intended to replace the auto-generated ones to give you better results

  • skinklizzardskinklizzard Posts: 218

    genesis 8 base both male and female are what the clothing is generally designed on, other shapes are then supported via FBM for any characters the PA/vendor/creator chooses to support.

    outfits will use autofollow to try to fit any shape morph applied but can often not work very well especially around the chest area with large changes to the bust, this is why the FBM's are used/made.

    To make an FBM for a product you generally have to own the shape you want to support in order to create a proper FBM that fits that shape, so anyone wanting to create an outfit that supports those HD body shapes would have to own the HD Body shapes product.

  • i53570ki53570k Posts: 212

    Thanks everyone for the answer.  So is this something that I should worry about when purhcasing outfits if the character is Zbrush sculpted but not a Daz Name 8 character?

  • skinklizzardskinklizzard Posts: 218

    not generally something you really need to worry about unless you're deviating a lot from the base shape, autofollow works with all the shape morphs so the outfit will 'fit' and if it doesn't fit well you can often use dForce to morph it into a better fit or create your own fitting morphs.

    but either way if you want it to work gauranteed out of the box check the supported shapes listed as it might not support all the daz name 8 characters either.

    for instance this one https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-fiesta-outfit-for-genesis-8-females which doesn't support Eva 8, it'll still work but might not look as good on Eva 8 as it would on Gabriela 8

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