101 Expression Library With Dials for Genesis 8 Male Question

melaniemelanie Posts: 794
edited September 2020 in The Commons

I bought 101 Expression Library With Dials for Genesis 8 Male this morning and installed it through DIM. DIM shows that it's installed, but it's not showing up in Smart Content under G8M when I have my character selected and I have Filter by Context checked. It's not showing up in G8F either, as many G8M items have been showing up under G8F. If I unckeck Filter by Context, it shows up. I also can't find the dials for it.

Does anyone have this new set and can tell me where they are? I've looked in the entire list of expressions I have in Parameters and they're not there.

I"m posting a screen shot of my Expressions list. What am I doing wrong?

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  • Phoenix1966Phoenix1966 Posts: 1,715
    edited September 2020

    As far as I can tell, the data folder path is /data/DAZ3D/Genesis 8/Male/Morphs/Gustef/101 Expression Library/, when it should have been set up to install into data/DAZ 3D (with a space)/Genesis 8/Male/Morphs/Gustef/101 Expression Library/,. That is where G8 morphs should be going. If you move the folder yourself, the dials will show up. However, loading a G8M will then give you the hated "duplicate IDs" warning.

    I suggest you submit a ticket to support like I did...my 15th open ticket in the last 7 months.

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  • nemesis10nemesis10 Posts: 3,500

    I just went directly to the People>Genesis 8 Male> Expressions>Gustef> 101 Expressions but I will file a ticket to get the proper metadata set up.

  • dracorndracorn Posts: 2,345

    I just installed it as well, and I found the one-click options, but where are the dials?

    I have looked under Posing / Pose Controls / Head / Expressions, and it is not there.  Neither are any dial options included under Brow, eyes, mouth, etc.

  • @dracorn Like I mentioned above, the product's data folder is going to the wrong location, which is why the dials/sliders are not showing up. 

  • melaniemelanie Posts: 794
    edited September 2020

    So it's not just me. Thanks for the responses. I wonder if I should also put in a ticket as well.

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  • It's being worked on.. :)

  • LoonyLoony Posts: 1,817
    edited September 2020

    https://www.daz3d.com/101-expression-library-with-dials-for-the-genesis-8-male just for tagging.

    I hope it get fixed, is pretty frustrating :(

     

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  • DresdenskinDresdenskin Posts: 56
    edited September 2020

    Edited 

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  • this is happening to a lot of new releases lately

  • LoonyLoony Posts: 1,817

    yeah there was a thread, where we collected all the bad products, who didnt got checked correct before they get released :(

  • I bought this product to and was confused as to why the expressions did not show up.

    It's really flabbergasting that such basic level errors keep popping up of late in products. This is probably the epitome of that issue.

    The product only works 2 ways, presets and dials. For the Q&A and even the PA to miss that all the expression dials do not show up seems like a gross lack of attention on their part. 

     

  • LoonyLoony Posts: 1,817

    lol never heard the word flabbergasting.... but google say its spomething like surprising :D it sounds like a Magic word from Harry Potter :3

    and yes youre right, install it in a clean lib, load G8M and you see its not there...

    I mean how hard is it to test that?

  • ByrdieByrdie Posts: 1,783

    :sigh: Was just about to download, guess I'd better wait untill it's fixed.

  • LoonyLoony Posts: 1,817

    absolute, you get just frustrating atm with it :/ and an error message with every scene when you try to fix it...

  • RalfZRalfZ Posts: 31

    Just wondering – has this been fixed now? Can I download with DIM and all files appear in the proper folders or are there still problems?

  • RalfZ said:

    Just wondering – has this been fixed now? Can I download with DIM and all files appear in the proper folders or are there still problems?

    nope, only see it in smart content in pose/expressionsif you have the "filter by context' box unchecked and still no 

  • RalfZRalfZ Posts: 31

    Argh. I'll just sit tight then. Thank you for the reply though!

  • RalfZ said:

    Argh. I'll just sit tight then. Thank you for the reply though!

    your welcome. may take awhile if at all to be fixed though

  • Well, there was an updated file in DIM today.

    The dials still do not appear. The 100 .dsf files that all started with "alias_head" and the 100 .png files are missing from the data folder this time around.

  • LindseyLindsey Posts: 2,001

    The Daz Connect update is now showing the dials on the Parameters Tab. 

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  • @Lindsey Did you test them to see if they work? Also, your dials are now missing the .png images that should accompany each dial.

  • LindseyLindsey Posts: 2,001

    Yes, the dials work when dialed up manually.  The odd thing is when I double click on a dial preset, it looks like the preset image, but if go look at the matching expression dial, it's still at 0, but there are other dials that are dialed in. 

    If I dial in the expression, it also dials in other expressions.  It appears the expression dial is a controller and dials in "sub dials" for lack of a better term. I don't know if this is normal behavior as I don't normally examine expressions dialed in on the Parameter's Tab if I use a preset to load an expression.

    Pictures uploaded:

    1. Expression preset loaded showing other expressions dialed in.
    2. Expression preset loaded showing product's expression dial not dialed in.
    3. Expression dial manually dialed in to 100% and other expressions automatically dialed in.
    4. Picture 3, Expression dial manually dialed in to 100% and applied matching Expression Preset too.

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    2. From Expression Preset DIAL NOT APPLIED.JPG
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    3. Dials used when Expression dialed in.JPG
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    4. Expression dial appled, PLUS, applied expression preset too.JPG
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  • Don't think I'll bother with the updated DIM... I fixed it myself. I moved all the .dsf expression files from data\DAZ3D\... to data\DAZ 3D\... (with the space) but left the thumbnails where they were already installed. The only expression that gave me a "duplicate ID" error was "G 101 ELM Seductive Longing", and I fixed that by goint into its Parameter Settings, and editing Color B (changing it's "Val" setting from 255 to 253), then doing "File > Save As > Support Asset > Save Modified Assets. 

    Result: Dials are visible under "Head : Expressions : G 101 Expression Library Male", thumbnails are visible, all expression dials work (as do the presets), and no Duplicate ID issue.  

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  • Sheesh.

    Daz QA has really taken a nosedive. 

  • LoonyLoony Posts: 1,817
    edited September 2020

    Lindsey said:

    Yes, the dials work when dialed up manually.  The odd thing is when I double click on a dial preset, it looks like the preset image, but if go look at the matching expression dial, it's still at 0, but there are other dials that are dialed in.

    That seems to happen to some (or all?) products who have 1 click expressions, I tested it one time with a other expression and was confused why the slider was still at 0, I use mainly only the sliders, kinda never the folders.

    3. Expression dial manually dialed in to 100% and other expressions automatically dialed in.

    that is okay, when it reach the result

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  • LoonyLoony Posts: 1,817
    edited September 2020

    Any Update?....The bug is reported since 10 days :/ otherwise would I now ask the support to refund it.

    http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/read_me/index/71651/file_list

    From that List, would I say its still not corrected, but I dont know if the List get updated with a patch.

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  • Loony said:

    Any Update?....The bug is reported since 10 days :/ otherwise would I now ask the support to refund it.

    http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/read_me/index/71651/file_list

    From that List, would I say its still not corrected, but I dont know if the List get updated with a patch.

    The file list should reflect the current state of the installer - as far as I am aware it is auto-generated. I would expect that, having reported an issue, you would be able to get a refund if it was not fixed even if that went beyond the 30 day period, as long as the initial report was within.

  • The file list does not reflect the most recent version availble through DIM. I'm going to return mine, because it's not worth the trouble at this point. With 15 open tickets spanning 7 months for errors beyond metadata (I don't use smart content) and at least one from over a year ago that was closed with the notation that the product error would not be fixed and the item is still for sale in the store, I give up on this one.

  • LoonyLoony Posts: 1,817
    edited September 2020
    Loony said:

    Any Update?....The bug is reported since 10 days :/ otherwise would I now ask the support to refund it.

    http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/read_me/index/71651/file_list

    From that List, would I say its still not corrected, but I dont know if the List get updated with a patch.

    The file list should reflect the current state of the installer - as far as I am aware it is auto-generated. I would expect that, having reported an issue, you would be able to get a refund if it was not fixed even if that went beyond the 30 day period, as long as the initial report was within.

    well, then I will ask for a refund :/

    Its sad, it was such a great Product, wich was never useable :(

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  • @Loony, it does sound like @Lindsey got it to work via Daz Connect. I don't use that installatoin method, but for those who do, they should be good to go.

    Of course, the ReadMe (and I'm seeing this a lot lately on products that are updated) does not state anything under Resolved Issues.

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