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Photoshop Elements with Elements + vs. a full photoshop subscription

billyben_0077a25354billyben_0077a25354 Posts: 771
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My Paintshop Pro is starting to act wierd and I am thinking about picking up Photoshop Elements along with Elements + vs. the $9.95 per month PS base subscription.  Looking for users of Elements with Elements + to see how it compares with a full blown Photoshop.  I perfer to get Elements if it will work since it is an actual purchase because I HATE subscription service softwware.

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  • marblemarble Posts: 7,500

    You might like to have a look at Affinity Photo - I think it would compare with Elements and it is not subscription.

  • StezzaStezza Posts: 8,251

    you may be able to pick up the PSE20 version cheap at some places now as the new version PSE21 will probably release next month sometime..

    Works great for me smiley

    I also have Affinity Photo as well wink

     

    billyben_0077a25354 said:

    My Paintshop Pro is starting to act wierd and I am thinking about picking up Photoshop Elements along with Elements + vs. the $9.95 per month PS base subscription.  Looking for users of Elements with Elements + to see how it compares with a full blown Photoshop.  I perfer to get Elements if it will work since it is an actual purchase because I HATE subscription service softwware.

     

  • LauritaLaurita Posts: 239

    I am not familiar with Elements but use PS professionally on a daily basis. Simply said: It is overblown for private use. If you don't need lots of layers, colour management or extensive cropping and masking you are most definitely better off with a smaller solution.

  • The RED CrownThe RED Crown Posts: 247

    Try Affinity Photo .

    I left Photoshop elements.

  • The RED CrownThe RED Crown Posts: 247
    marble said:

    You might like to have a look at Affinity Photo - I think it would compare with Elements and it is not subscription.

    yes

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 11,680
    edited September 2020

    Agreed with all that full Photoshop (hereafter "PS") is overkill.  I've used it for years and there are 3/4 of it that I haven't touched.  I'm also dismayed that PS is now a subscription service so I hang on to my old PS-CS5.0 like glue.

    I have played with the  advanced interface hidden in older versions of PhotoshopElements (hereafter "PSE") and found it completely satisfactory.

    I'm confused about the implications that PSE has a ~$10/month subscription fee?surprise  As far as I can find, it can be bought outright for as little as ~$40 in some places, but even Adobe sells it directly for $99.

    But regardless of price and various personal recommendations, here is a chart identifying all of the features available in the newest and all the older versions of PSE.  If you can't find the feature you want in that list, then you really do need something different.indecision https://elementsplus.net/ ;

    However, perhaps the issue comes down, not to features, but to ease of use.  There I have to agree, that the Photoshop family is a learned dicipline and acquired taste.  Personally, I freak out when I encounter an image editor that doesn't work like PS and I complain that everything's been dumbed down and hidden.  But I'm an old dog, and new tricks are difficult.sad

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  • fastbike1fastbike1 Posts: 4,078

    Frankly, Affinity Photo compares better with full Photoshop than Elements. Much more complete. Less expensive than either.

  • billyben_0077a25354billyben_0077a25354 Posts: 771
    marble said:

    You might like to have a look at Affinity Photo - I think it would compare with Elements and it is not subscription.

    The reason I was thinking aobut Elements is you can outright buy it vs Photoshop vika subscription.

    LeatherGryphon said:

    Agreed with all that full Photoshop (hereafter "PS") is overkill.  I've used it for years and there are 3/4 of it that I haven't touched.  I'm also dismayed that PS is now a subscription service so I hang on to my old PS-CS5.0 like glue.

    I have played with the  advanced interface hidden in older versions of PhotoshopElements (hereafter "PSE") and found it completely satisfactory.

    I'm confused about the implications that PSE has a ~$10/month subscription fee?surprise  As far as I can find, it can be bought outright for as little as ~$40 in some places, but even Adobe sells it directly for $99.

    But regardless of price and various personal recommendations, here is a chart identifying all of the features available in the newest and all the older versions of PSE.  If you can't find the feature you want in that list, then you really do need something different.indecision https://elementsplus.net/ ;

    However, perhaps the issue comes down, not to features, but to ease of use.  There I have to agree, that the Photoshop family is a learned dicipline and acquired taste.  Personally, I freak out when I encounter an image editor that doesn't work like PS and I complain that everything's been dumbed down and hidden.  But I'm an old dog, and new tricks are difficult.sad

    No, I was saying I don't want to do Photoshop with it's subscription fee which is why I am thinking about Elements that I can out right buy for $50.00 or $60.00 right now.

    Also thank you to everyone for the suggestion of Affinity Photo.  I will download the demo and see if it suits my needs.

  • marblemarble Posts: 7,500
    billyben_0077a25354 said:
    marble said:

     

    No, I was saying I don't want to do Photoshop with it's subscription fee which is why I am thinking about Elements that I can out right buy for $50.00 or $60.00 right now.

    Also thank you to everyone for the suggestion of Affinity Photo.  I will download the demo and see if it suits my needs.

    Here's my back story - I used to work for a computer support company and they had almost unlimited access to any software so that they could provide support. So I also had access to PS and ZBrush, etc. although I wasn't involoved with that kind of support. I worked from home quite often so I had some of this software on my home/work PC. Since I retired I had to clear all that stuff from my personal PC and started looking for alternatives. A long time ago I used Serif PhotoPlus as a PS alternative and it was quite good but used to crash a lot. I decided to give Affinity a go after they sent me a half-price offer as a long-standing Serif customer. I tried it, it is pretty stable and it does everything I need it to do and I only use a fraction of what it is capable of. It will also allow you to use your PS brushes and open .PSD files.

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