most popular types of character?
Drekkan
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Am wanting to know what the general best selling type of Daz characters are are they the flawless perfect model types or perhaps the more realistic types or other types? I'm just curious what generally is the most popular type of character on the market consistently in daz.
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Women. Usually with big breasts and tiny waists and big eyes and full lips.
And whatever they're doing, it's in high heels.
Exactly. And I forgot to mention if they're Asian, they must look barely 18.
I'm afraid only the people at Daz Inc. or the PAs who make lots of characters of different types would have an acurate answer, as they're the only ones who are likely to have that sales data. I don't think my own experience selling characters here is enough to establish any pattern beyond the fact that any single female character of mine has vastly outsold the male ones. Haven't noticed that any specific 'type' does better, but my consistant best sellers have been Chooli and Little Chooli, neither of which are glamour girls with big lips. Unfortunately, I can't speak to how that would compare with any other characters on the market, as all I have to go by them to are the sales of my small collection.
So... I don't know if that helps much, but maybe take a look at the What's Hot section or look at the characters in the store and filter the search results by Trending or Most Popular. That still won't be completely accurate if you mean to find out what's been most popular for a long period of time, but it can show you what characters people have been buying recently.
The only metric we can be farely confident about is female outsales male by a considerable margin (whatever considerable margin is), other than that it's barely speculation unless said person has data to back it up.
... We have been constantly told that females outsell males.
... And are often somewhat stylised.
From the various examples PAs have given in the past, female products usually sell around 2 or 3 times more than their male equivalent.
I've made two freebies and based on the downloads from those the answer is overwhelmingly pretty women.
1) One freebie was a scene that requires the use to have some DAZ products purchased plus download and install freebies from two other people that made freebies so it's a bit of money and work to pull what you need to use the scene together. The scene is of an opening cartoon credits of a 60s television show. In 3 years it has 783 views, 141 downloads, 6 comments, and oddly only 5 ratings, one less than number of comments.
2) The other freebie is much less work as it is just a FaceGen Artist Pro morph the user unzips & places in their DAZ Content Library & restart DAZ & it's ready to go. It's a face morph, geometry only, approximating a famous female pop band singer from the late 70s through mid 80s. She is still well known and very pretty. In 2 days that freebie has 336 views, 66 downloads, 1 rating, and no comments.
So if you can model gorgeous realistic woman I think you would make a lot of money.
I guess to be fair and negate the often stated claim in the forum that if one don't offer male 3D model products how can you state that they wouldn't sell as good as they aren't given equal opportunity to sell as the female 3D models?
Anyone have suggestions on what male celebrity I should use? Should it be someone that's mascilinely handsome? Someone that's generally well known to be behaviorally a heroically known man? Should it be some unknown male I use the random function to generate in FaceGen Artist Pro until one gets generated that 'strikes me as uniquely interesting'?
Should I do the same with randomly generating a uniquely interesting female in FaceGen Artist Pro as a freebie as that's more in line with the expectations for new female characters in the DAZ 3D Store?
You can probably assume because I am not a modeler or a prolific maker of freebies and have no followers any downloads got then would be on the desirability of the morphs and for no other reason. A PA in the DAZ Store would by weight of passing the DAZ 3D QA process would immediately carry more wait regarding general product desirability, but at a monetary price.
If you noticed and did the math for the ratio of views to downloads for both the "Bewitched" scene and the "Deborah Harry" morph it's about 1 in 5 or 20% (18% and 19% respectively).
Then I will post the results here.
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OK, the female freebie I uploaded is a likeness of Deborah Harry. I just made a likeness of Elvis Presley with FaceGen Artist Pro and seeing as Elvis Presley is arguably the most famous man in western history his downloads relative to Deborah Harry's would be a gage as to what will sell in the DAZ Store.
As luck would have it the Genesis 8 Male Essentials that come free with DAZ Studio's G8M skin materials and Armani hair is ballpark range for Elvis' hair and complexion were in real life (although I never realized they wore so much makeup on TV, stage, & movies back then!). They are easy enough to find if you search shareCG.com but unless you actually want them you shouldn't get them or view them as the ideal is the random shareCG.com user's interests indicating what sells but us forum goers. Big collectors there are likely big collectors in the DAZ Store.
And look at the female character ratio to male characters in the DAZ Store & at shareCG. Its lopsided.
Young white female figures, usually slightly stylized appear to sell best.
The creatures also seem to be very popular.
Not characters, but I have made a number of freebies of various types. This includes models of trees and props, but also some models of simple dForce clothing for which I did not put any effort to add JCMs or fancy textures. Among this clearly-labeled low quality clothing, the downloads are
Male shirt, long sleeve, simple and boring, 140 downloads
Male vest, simple and boring, 100 downloads
Male fantasy barbarian outfit, sexy and heroic, 313 downloads
Female long evening gown and wrap, 213 downloads
Female sexy harem dancer outfit, 534 downloads
and just for fun, my prop for toilet paper had 166 downloads
There are several ways to order that data. One way that fits my priors is that the most popular category is sexy female clothing. It is also true that among these freebies the average for females exceeds the average for males. On the other hand, the male barbarian outfit has more downloads than the long female evening gown, so maybe the way to order the data is that fantasy renderers are more likely to seek out freebies, even if they are of admittedly lower quality (as measured by JCMs, textures, and similar criteria), than people looking for more contemporary items.
*Consistent* popularity, yeah, pretty young white females, with pretty young ethnic females a solid contender.
Still, novelty and good (especially witty) promos might sell something that no one had antcipated being popular. I remember George for G3M seeming remarkably popular for such an outlying male character.
It's not a certainty, since a lot of users never upload anything to it, but a good stroll through the galleries might be a fair indication of what people are using.
I probably own many more pretty young girl figures than I actually render. There's always a reason to buy another pretty young girl figure, but what I actually render isn't just that.
Dudes? Pfft. I don't own so many, but I definitely do render them (as seen in my gallery). I just rely on a few male figures and morphs, whereas I can't seem to buy enough pretty young female figures, for whatever reason.
I seem to buy a lot of animals, plants, food and medieval stuff
I definitely am not in the majority
people are the afterthought
I guess I'm more in the minority when I prefer realistic figures that aren't stylized. Though I've bought quite a few that had larger than normal eyes, I got them because they had other qualities I liked and eye sizing morphs easily fixed those. I would say that larger than normal doe eyed figures are super popular because I see new releases that constantly fit that look. I've really enjoyed the newer Core figures like (yea I know the names are wrong on some of them) Twostep, Celami, Alawa, Kayo. To my eyes they aren't stylized and more realistic not just in the face but in the body shape, which is what I look for.
yes, my fav products!! I buy all these to keep the trend current (wouldn't want the PAs to think about making anything else!)
,,,and more heels please!!
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I have always been a sucker for Sliver now @Jessaii characters going all the way back to when she and Countess had their own site. Most of the characters I create have at least one element from her characters, either a face morph, skin texture, eye color or nail morph. :)
Not forgeting the larger than life derriere and lips you could use for a pillow...
Haha.
For pretty female characters Mousso, Rarestone, and Bluejunte are already excellent so it'd be pretty hard to compete and even if someone gets that good so many great characters are already here. There's actually way more room for more environments. There are so many potential cities that just haven't been done here yet
As for male celebrities Yeonjun, Cole Sprouse, James Charles, Jungkook, Chris Hemsworth, and Henry Golding are worth looking at for inspiration
So I'm breaking down what I got so far as an experiment
I like to use sliders to mix different characters
Out of curiosity, does @Drekkan ever participate in the threads they start? Or are the posing questions for research purposes?
But beautiful female character models are beautiful no matter which PA makes the character, including the PAs you list there. If the OP really is motivated and enjoys making female characters then that's what they should do. I'm planning on buying the Marvelous Designer Perpetual License before they go to subscriber licensing only and if I do make model products it apt to be traditional clothing.
....but, personally, I'm not a PA and am not trying to specifically become one either. It's a hobby and what comes from it comes from it. I have no plan. If I did make models or code that I though were worth selling or other might want I'd do so although I'm apt to thoroughly investigate the Unity Asset Store and the UE4 Asset store as avenues for sales in addition to the DAZ 3D Store.
Isn't a little too much 50's nowadays already? I'd expect to have quite people of the younger generation - especially out of the USA - don't really see Elvis as an icon anymore. Maybe use a male from more recent history, like The Rock.
To be honest, I am kind of done spending money on pretty female assets.... I still look, but immediately I compare them to the ones I ALREADY have (which is quite an extensive collection).
There are some PAs with over a hundered G8s/G3s that are basically the same female with slight tweaks....
This discovery came to me as I had to pare down my assests as their related moprhs were making my load times an abomination. I was shocked at how many times I bought the "same" female... just slightly different.
So now, I am only looking to pull the trigger if they are truly unique, otherwise, I'll just spin the dials myself.
If the character doesn't have any distinctive features and the textures are for a typical unblemished fashion model type (boring), it isn't worth the resources it takes - Don't be fooled by the hair, clothing, lighting and background, which are not even included...
Also with the release of new generation, your old characters will gradually lose their usefulness
Clothing has a bit longer lifetime as you can usually fit or make them fit several generations of figures.
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Have to disagree with that. I'm running several 'old' V4s that are now living out their lives as G3. Converting a V4-Genesis2 character with all morphs and skins to Genesis 3/8 takes 5-20 minutes, depending on the number of makeup options (after you get your morph clones made and Blender set up to rebake the textures). Going back and forth between G3/8 takes seconds once you have the clone models set up. There are really good tutorials out there that give all the steps necessary.
i gonna be honest i really want to know "what are these 'womans with large breast" peoples keep claim here???, i've already saw a lot of females here and for me being honest most of the female characters i saw so far i could say which they are at "best" C or D cup, now if we are talking about "renderotica" then you ca get "balloom breast womans", or some "3d porn comics,, but most of the females here i see being "normal size "not that monster some peoples like to "claim here", unless for then a C or D cup is already considered "large". or huge.