In the Market for a 32" 4K Monitor

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  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    I'd get two 27" 4K monitors. One for renders and the other for editing / tutorials.

    My desk is a Realspace corner desk by Magellan and doesn't offer much functional room for a dual monitor setup.  Nevertheless, I tried it with my 27" and an old 22" several years ago and immediately found the setup too impractical for my needs.

    Multimonitor setup does feel awkward if the monitors are not the same size and resolution

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,320

    I'd get two 27" 4K monitors. One for renders and the other for editing / tutorials.

    My desk is a Realspace corner desk by Magellan and doesn't offer much functional room for a dual monitor setup.  Nevertheless, I tried it with my 27" and an old 22" several years ago and immediately found the setup too impractical for my needs.

    Oh, too bad. I've used a  720P 14" laptop screen plus FHD 22" desktop for a long while & it's very practical. The desk I'm using is very cramped though at 2.5' x2.5'

    Now however, soon after I get my MD license I will be saving and buying 2 27": FHD monitors and for that I have a cheap glasstop desk in my basement I'll bring upstairs that I bought in 2006 from Office Depot (at a location that sadly went out of business this year). The desk though is top notch & lightweight. It's about 2' deep by about 4' wide and standard desk height which I think is 3.5' high, but not sure. It cost under a $100 but that's been 14 years ago now.

  • I bought my main screen a 43 inch 4k phillips on ebay a couple years ago... (it was listed as new and it was) cost me about $550 with shippping
    I use it with a 32 inch normal rez screen that's a tv to the right and 27 hp to the left. 
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    yes the tiny type is a pain in the butt. but I expect that will be addressed. 
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    I sit about 2 feet away for both dazing and gaming 
    The wings come out on the sides pretty much at hexagon angles 
    Content library to the right, scene list right by work window and two combo palettes to the left. 
    According to photoshop the screen shot is 7680 x 2160 pixels 
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    But I think I was using multiple screens back as early at 1990 for DTP and art work and Mac supported multiple monitors. 
    Used to use a 21 bw two page display on one side, radius vertical one page on the other and a 15 inch color monitor in the middle
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    real estate for your image work is always good. 
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    depending what else you do, I specifically love being able to zoom in and the vertexes in a 3d program so they're large enough to see and still have enough of the object showing on screen so I can see what I'm doing with the vertexes once I select one. 

    dazScreen.jpg
    7680 x 2160 - 1M
  • MelissaGTMelissaGT Posts: 2,611

    It is not simply "more horsepower". Using a 4K screen will also use more VRAM.

    Good points.  I hadn't considered them.  Thanks.

    I also play video games, so that effects other things, it is easier to run high frame rates at lower resolutions. But of course if you aren't gaming, that is not a concern.

    The only game I play anymore is Star Wars: The Old Republic, which runs fine on my 27", so I'm shopping with the understanding that a similarly-specced 4K monitor will support it as well.

    For additional context, my 27" is an ASUS MX27AQ.

    If you have an opportunity, perhaps you can sample some screens at a local store... That is really the only way to know for sure.

    There's a Microcenter near me I may pay a visit to.

    SWTOR should run fine for you at 4k...I have a 1080TI as well and can run the game with everything maxxed out and Reshade on top. Though, some places do slow down below 60fps...which is a fault of the game client more than lack of horsepower. 

  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    My 3 monitor setup;

    The content library on the left can show 136 thumbnails simultaneously, the Scene tab in the middle can show quite a long list list of children and all of the rightmost monitor is available for the viewport.

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    5760 x 1200 - 704K
  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,085
     

    Oh, too bad. I've used a  720P 14" laptop screen plus FHD 22" desktop for a long while & it's very practical. The desk I'm using is very cramped though at 2.5' x2.5'

    The truth is that most so-called computer desks are way too small for serious artists.  Between multiple home and work office moves over the last 30 years, I've had the chance to try a large number of fancy desks in just about every shape, style and material compositon, from hardwoods to particle board and glass to solid steel.  In the end, though, I always found myself going back to using simple wood and steel folding tables from Office Depot or Staples.  Not only are they wider and deeper than most computer desks, but because of the placement of the legs, they can be set flush against almost any wall, even when there are large and electrical fixtures that have to be worked around.  To top that off, they're also extremely strong (300 lb weight load). practically indestructible and... wonder of wonders... light and portable enough for one person to move them around as needed.    Oh, and they require no assembly and are also dirt cheap, with the 96" wide versions going for just over a hundred bucks and the 72" model come in  right at $80.

    Now a really good CHAIR, on the other hand, is generally well worth spending money on.       

  • Cybersox said:

    The truth is that most so-called computer desks are way too small for serious artists.

    OMG, preach it... ugh!...

    Cybersox said:

    In the end, though, I always found myself going back to using simple wood and steel folding tables from Office Depot or Staples.

    I would love to replace my desk with a folding table but what do you do for storage?

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,320
    Cybersox said:
     

    Oh, too bad. I've used a  720P 14" laptop screen plus FHD 22" desktop for a long while & it's very practical. The desk I'm using is very cramped though at 2.5' x2.5'

    The truth is that most so-called computer desks are way too small for serious artists.  Between multiple home and work office moves over the last 30 years, I've had the chance to try a large number of fancy desks in just about every shape, style and material compositon, from hardwoods to particle board and glass to solid steel.  In the end, though, I always found myself going back to using simple wood and steel folding tables from Office Depot or Staples.  Not only are they wider and deeper than most computer desks, but because of the placement of the legs, they can be set flush against almost any wall, even when there are large and electrical fixtures that have to be worked around.  To top that off, they're also extremely strong (300 lb weight load). practically indestructible and... wonder of wonders... light and portable enough for one person to move them around as needed.    Oh, and they require no assembly and are also dirt cheap, with the 96" wide versions going for just over a hundred bucks and the 72" model come in  right at $80.

    Now a really good CHAIR, on the other hand, is generally well worth spending money on.       

    The 2.5 sq table I'm using is actually a poplar breakfast nook dinette table. I've been looking for an office chair and at the prices I can afford at $25 chair is going to be identical in material, design, and manufacting so I'm just going to buy a $25 chair and be done with it. The only difference is they offer different colors so you can match or contrast the room the chair goes into. They keep selling out before I get around to it though.

  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024
    Cybersox said:

    The truth is that most so-called computer desks are way too small for serious artists.

    OMG, preach it... ugh!...

    Cybersox said:

    In the end, though, I always found myself going back to using simple wood and steel folding tables from Office Depot or Staples.

    I would love to replace my desk with a folding table but what do you do for storage?

    That's what the USB harddrives are forwink

    Thinking about the desk... Does it actually need to be bigger than you need for the keyboard?
    In the past you needed a table with a concrete foundation to support the CRT:s, but now you could attach them on the wall, some sort of arm or even hang from the ceiling...

  • I need space for the keyboard alongside the Wacom (not that it's much use recently, but whenit is used there are not enough buttons to make the keyboard superfluous).

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,085
    Cybersox said:
     

    Oh, too bad. I've used a  720P 14" laptop screen plus FHD 22" desktop for a long while & it's very practical. The desk I'm using is very cramped though at 2.5' x2.5'

    The truth is that most so-called computer desks are way too small for serious artists.  Between multiple home and work office moves over the last 30 years, I've had the chance to try a large number of fancy desks in just about every shape, style and material compositon, from hardwoods to particle board and glass to solid steel.  In the end, though, I always found myself going back to using simple wood and steel folding tables from Office Depot or Staples.  Not only are they wider and deeper than most computer desks, but because of the placement of the legs, they can be set flush against almost any wall, even when there are large and electrical fixtures that have to be worked around.  To top that off, they're also extremely strong (300 lb weight load). practically indestructible and... wonder of wonders... light and portable enough for one person to move them around as needed.    Oh, and they require no assembly and are also dirt cheap, with the 96" wide versions going for just over a hundred bucks and the 72" model come in  right at $80.

    Now a really good CHAIR, on the other hand, is generally well worth spending money on.       

    The 2.5 sq table I'm using is actually a poplar breakfast nook dinette table. I've been looking for an office chair and at the prices I can afford at $25 chair is going to be identical in material, design, and manufacting so I'm just going to buy a $25 chair and be done with it. The only difference is they offer different colors so you can match or contrast the room the chair goes into. They keep selling out before I get around to it though.

    A tip I give everyone - if you know people who work in big offices, a lot of image-conscious companies will trash otherwise perfectly good chairs when they redecorate, or when the chairs develop minor cosmetic faults, and a used $500 chair is generally going to be a lot better than a new $100 one.  The chairs at both of my home rendering stations are my old office chairs from work, one of which is a Herman Miller that carried a list price of $1500 when it was new, that I claimed as prizes when we redecorated.  Does it look like it's had 15 years of wear on it?  Yes, it does.  But it sure am comfortable. :)      

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,085
    Cybersox said:

    The truth is that most so-called computer desks are way too small for serious artists.

    OMG, preach it... ugh!...

    Cybersox said:

    In the end, though, I always found myself going back to using simple wood and steel folding tables from Office Depot or Staples.

    I would love to replace my desk with a folding table but what do you do for storage?

    Do you mean where do I put peripeherals?  In my upstairs setup I just have a steel wire mesh in/out box organizer that would normally hold documents and had all of my external drives stacked in that, one or two drives per shelf.  That gives great ventilation, cooling, and easy cable access from the back, while the PC sits on the floor and the keyboard and graphics tablet slide under the monitor risers that elevate monitors.  In the new setup that I'm building in the downstairs area (so I finally have a home office that people can come and meet me in without having to traipse through my entire house whenever this covid thing gets settles) I'm getting fancier and using half of a wire and steel shelf from Target, with all of the shelves installed, to the left of the main office desk as an overall catch-all area, with another in/out organizer sitting on one of the upper shelves, while the printer sits on top of a file cabinet.  Because I live in an area that could flood, the PC and UPS units sit on their own small table, just in case water comes up through the floor as happened in a previous residence and I have to evacuate them quickly.     

  • Nyghtfall3DNyghtfall3D Posts: 786
    edited September 2020

    Welp... after further - and exhausting - research, I bought a BenQ PD3220U for $1199.  It'll be here next Tuesday.

    On a related note, I am quite put off with the sheer number advancements in today's display tech.  I had so much info to catch up on - hardware compatiblity, Windows and app scaling, etc.. - that my brain feels completely fried.  I sincerely hope 4K is worth the upgrade.

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  • LOL - so the days of having a massive 25" CRT (for the viewport and render windows) and a 15" LCD is dead then, yes? 

    (Seriously, I used that rig for a very long time, right up to 2011-2012 or so if memory serves. That's when the NEC 125F monitor finally gave up the ghost; it was then that I figured a laptop would be more useful to me anyway.)

  • LOL - so the days of having a massive 25" CRT (for the viewport and render windows) and a 15" LCD is dead then, yes? 

    My rig isn't that old (7 years) but I'm 49 and can definitely relate to your joke - I used PS/2's in College.

    I just can't believe how much display options have exploded in recent years.  Panel types... connection types... HDR standards and ideal brightness levels... scaling... viewing angles... software vs hardware calibration... Ugh!

  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,191

    LOL - so the days of having a massive 25" CRT (for the viewport and render windows) and a 15" LCD is dead then, yes? 

    (Seriously, I used that rig for a very long time, right up to 2011-2012 or so if memory serves. That's when the NEC 125F monitor finally gave up the ghost; it was then that I figured a laptop would be more useful to me anyway.)

    I'm not sure I've owned a CRT this century.

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715

    LOL - so the days of having a massive 25" CRT (for the viewport and render windows) and a 15" LCD is dead then, yes? 

    (Seriously, I used that rig for a very long time, right up to 2011-2012 or so if memory serves. That's when the NEC 125F monitor finally gave up the ghost; it was then that I figured a laptop would be more useful to me anyway.)

    Well the CRT is pretty dead, but the LCD is just fine!

  • I needed a bigger screen and I didn't want to pay the what I think are silly prices for larger screens so I just bought myself a 43" 4K TV and use it as a monitor. It cost me around 450 back when I bought it, but they are closer to 300 now, either price is easier for me to deal with than 1200, holy crap, I hope that is a GREAT monitor.

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,320

    Last CRT I owned was in Oct 1998 but I do know one person that had 2 CRTs at least until 2003.

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,085
    edited September 2020

    LOL - so the days of having a massive 25" CRT (for the viewport and render windows) and a 15" LCD is dead then, yes? 

    (Seriously, I used that rig for a very long time, right up to 2011-2012 or so if memory serves. That's when the NEC 125F monitor finally gave up the ghost; it was then that I figured a laptop would be more useful to me anyway.)

     

    I've still got a functional Sony GDM-FW900 24" CRT monitor in my spare room... mainly because at nearly a hundred pounds, it's way too damn heavy to carry down the stairs by myself.  Still a damn good monitor, but it's pre HDMI/Dataport, so it's really only good for older video systems now.

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  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    i'm a fan of the benQ  
    Low Blue Light Flicker-Free

  • I still have a couple of CRT monitors Hell I still have a few Tube tvs. lol

     

  • I'm looking for a good 27" 1440p monitor with 120 or greater refresh rate, preferrably NOT a TN panel, that can pivot between landscape & portrait view. Any quality monitors out there that can do this?

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,085
    edited September 2020
    Malandar said:

    I still have a couple of CRT monitors Hell I still have a few Tube tvs. lol

     

    I have a few of tube TVs as well, including my massive first generation HD Sony Wega 36"... but, then again, I also still have a couple of LaserDisc players.        

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  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,085
    edited September 2020

    LOL - so the days of having a massive 25" CRT (for the viewport and render windows) and a 15" LCD is dead then, yes? 

    My rig isn't that old (7 years) but I'm 49 and can definitely relate to your joke - I used PS/2's in College.

    I just can't believe how much display options have exploded in recent years.  Panel types... connection types... HDR standards and ideal brightness levels... scaling... viewing angles... software vs hardware calibration... Ugh!

    having been through the same ordeal earlier this year, I definitely feel your pain.  However, it looks like you've selected an incredible bit of hardware and I wish you many happy years of rendering before you need to upgrade again.  

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  • What do you guys think of the ultrawide 29" monitors (non-curved)? The prices seem really good at that size. And it still keeps the 1080p for height, just extends the screen real estate horizontally which seems perfect for Daz type stuff and also doing online tutorials, as the biggest issue I face is not having enough room on the sides for menus and such. I've had the dual monitor setup before and I don't care for it.  I also don't think I could adapt to a curved monitor. But the 21:9 flat screen seems like the perfect compromise for a hobbyist. You can spend as little as $230 for a decent one. I think I'm headed in that direction if I upgrade.

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