data/daz 3d/genesis2/base/genesis2.dsf?

alan bard newcomeralan bard newcomer Posts: 2,230
edited September 2020 in Daz Studio Discussion

[data/daz 3d/genesis2/base/genesis2.dsf]this came up in a missing file listing. 
Okay, went to the genesis2 folder .. there is no base folder.   there are male and female folders each with there respective Genesis2Female dsf file  and a Genesis2Male dsf files
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And just to drive things crazier.. it's a Genesis1 character. 
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one supposes that perhaps there is an issue with the file structure before the data folder .. but everything else was fine 
and there doesn't seem to be an issue with the character
But since everything else loaded one can assume (dangerous to do so) but it's the data folder in My Daz 3d library?

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and how does one exorcise an non-existent file? 
Or could this just be a mis-label genesis2 instead of genesis2male inside another duf or dsf file?

Post edited by Richard Haseltine on

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  • LeanaLeana Posts: 11,812

    Looks like the character was saved with a bad reference. 

  • NorthOf45NorthOf45 Posts: 5,532

    Which character? Can't really speculate about how it is vs. how it should be, or why, without knowing more about it.

  • alan bard newcomeralan bard newcomer Posts: 2,230
    edited September 2020

    the character is genesis1 base with justin gen1 and sam and sadie for genesis and some other morphs for gen1
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    plus as noted there are genesis2female and genesis2male but there is no genesis2 .. there is a plain genesis dsf
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    so at this point I'm thinking that at the changeover something was named genesis2 without the male or female attribution. 
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    but weird for sure
    He is using the WiseWizard Sash and Staff from genesis 8 but all clothing is genesis1

     

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  • NorthOf45NorthOf45 Posts: 5,532

    Can't tell what might be looking for anything Genesis2. When exactly does the error pop up? If it is a preset of some kind, search the file for the "genesis2.dsf" reference. It could be left over from some previous edit, and not affect the final result. I don't get any errors with Justin, but I don't have Sam & Sadie, so can't say about that part.

  • alan bard newcomeralan bard newcomer Posts: 2,230
    edited September 2020

    shows up during the loading. as a missing file. 
    just searched daz library .. no genesis2 dsf
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    just checked over 1000 items that have "genesis2" as part of their names.. but not a single "genesis2" found.. so it has to be an internal error of some kind. 
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  • NorthOf45NorthOf45 Posts: 5,532

    You are loading a scene that has many parts. If you recreate it one asset at a time, you should catch the one that throws the error. The .dsf is not a file you would see, those are usually hidden in the data folder. One of the files you are using probably has a reference to something in the fictitious "Genesis2.dsf". I agree that there is no file Genesis2.dsf, I don't have one, and I have a lot of stuff...


  • the character is Genesis 
    with
    Easy Tail for Genesis
    cat girl genesis for paws and ears 
    saide and sam for genesis
    Justin for genesis
    and some morphs but they have to be genesis morphs because there aren't any programs to take morphs backwards are the 
    plus I think these characters were created in 2013
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    the characters in this scene are the original figure created in 2013 and the little kit is the up to date version for 2020. (iray etc)
    but they both loaded looking for genesis2.dsf  
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    so this will just be one of those weird ones. 
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    oh, I did load a genesis base into a new screen ..  it's says can't locate file genesis2.dsf 
    so it's right there in the genesis figure. Which also insists on loading with the julie shaping morph on. (second picture)
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  • LeanaLeana Posts: 11,812

    If the message also appears when loading a default Genesis it means you have installed a morph or character which contains a bad reference.

    And the fact that Julie is applied by default means you have a character which uses Julie and is saved with a non-zero default value.

    I wouldn't be surprised if both problems came from the same character.

  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    Clear the scene, clear the log and load the base genesis figure. Save the log and show it to us, otherwise we have no possibility to see what's happening.

  • alan bard newcomeralan bard newcomer Posts: 2,230
    edited September 2020

    when I first had the issues with julie and genesis.. I downloaded and installed the genesis base stuff. 
    didn't make a difference. 
    1) load genesis 
    2) daz says no morphs 
    3) but it lies they are used 
    4) and even if you dial julie out .. one of her breast shape morphs is active (my male cat characters tended to get upset over this)
    5) but even dialed out they show as currently used. 
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    here is the log...  it loads some strange pings..  
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    I loaded genesis and got the missing genesis2 message
    told daz New and still got the message 
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    I'm wondering what and where the 

    src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(4930): Could not find parent for modifier: PBM3duSadieHead, things are .. don't appear to be in the library or the program folder (didn't come up in a search.) 
    but I'm guessing they're data files that daz creates 
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    this wouldn't be much of a problem etc the cats are still genesis based because the head morphs only work with genesis.  
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    oh, I did load a genesis base into a new screen ..  it's says can't locate file genesis2.dsf 
    so it's right there in the genesis figure. Which also insists on loading with the julie shaping morph on. 
    >>>>>> A FIX ON PART<<<<
    I took the genesis figure that loaded as julie.. set the julie and julie breast morphs to zero and locked them
    Renamed the original Gensis duf to Genesisold then saved the zeroed genesis figure to that folder as a scene file under the name Genesis
    I can now load that genesis figure and have it merge without being Julie
    big question maybe what happens if something else calls the genesis duf

     

    2020-09-20 22:53:17.369 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5759): Could not 

    find output property for formula: Genesis:/data/DAZ

    %203D/Genesis/Base/Morphs/Mallenlane/Hitomi/PHMHitomiRealisticNose.dsf#PHMHitomiRealisticNose?value in 

    file : /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis/Base/Morphs/Morris/Andrei/CTRLAndrei.dsf
    2020-09-20 22:53:17.378 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5759): Could not 

    find output property for formula: Genesis:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis/Base/Morphs/DAZ%203D/The%20Girl

    %204/FBMTheGirl4.dsf#FBMTheGirl4?value in file : /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis/Base/Morphs/JK/BLC/JKBlanca.dsf
    2020-09-20 22:53:20.302 File loaded in 0 min 8.2 sec.
    2020-09-20 22:53:20.303 Loaded file: Genesis.duf
    2020-09-20 22:53:21.650 Could not resolve : "/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis2/Base/Genesis2.dsf"
    2020-09-20 22:53:21.928 Loaded Morph Deltas in 0 min 0.0 sec.
    2020-09-20 22:53:21.935 Loaded file: PBMJulieBreastsShape2.dsf
    2020-09-20 22:53:21.965 Loaded Morph Deltas in 0 min 0.0 sec.
    2020-09-20 22:53:21.965 Loaded file: FBMJulie.dsf
    2020-09-20 22:54:55.680 Loaded image Twig.png
    2020-09-20 22:54:55.681 Loaded image Twig.png
    2020-09-20 22:54:55.710 Loaded image CWFJagCard.png
    2020-09-20 22:54:55.711 Loaded image CWFJagCard.png
    2020-09-20 22:54:55.717 Loaded image Cat_Female_Card.png
    2020-09-20 22:54:55.718 Loaded image Cat_Female_Card.png
    2020-09-20 22:54:55.721 Loaded image CWFPantherCard.png
    2020-09-20 22:54:55.730 Loaded image CWFPantherCard.png
    2020-09-20 22:54:55.731 Loaded image CWFTigerCard.png
    2020-09-20 22:54:55.732 Loaded image CWFTigerCard.png
    2020-09-20 22:54:55.734 Loaded image DarkElf-NoEars.png
    2020-09-20 22:54:55.735 Loaded image DarkElf-NoEars.png
    2020-09-20 22:54:55.737 Loaded image FBMFaerie.png
    2020-09-20 22:54:55.738 Loaded image FBMFaerie.png
    2020-09-20 22:54:55.739 Loaded image FBMHag.png
    2020-09-20 22:54:55.741 Loaded image FBMHag.png
    2020-09-20 22:54:55.816 Loaded image FBMBasicFemale.png
    2020-09-20 22:54:55.825 Loaded image FBMBasicFemale.png
    2020-09-20 22:55:00.164 Loaded image FBMVoluptuous.png
    2020-09-20 22:55:00.166 Loaded image FBMVoluptuous.png
    2020-09-20 22:55:00.188 Loaded image JKBlanca.png
    2020-09-20 22:55:00.189 Loaded image JKBlanca.png
    2020-09-20 22:55:00.192 Loaded image Deepsea Eve.png
    2020-09-20 22:55:00.193 Loaded image Deepsea Eve.png
    2020-09-20 22:55:00.197 Loaded image Deepsea Eve HD Details.png
    2020-09-20 22:55:00.198 Loaded image Deepsea Eve HD Details.png
    2020-09-20 22:55:00.201 Loaded image FBMJulie.png
    2020-09-20 22:55:00.209 Loaded image FBMJulie.png
    2020-09-20 22:55:00.211 Loaded image FBMSAPG1Body01.png
    2020-09-20 22:55:00.212 Loaded image FBMSAPG1Body01.png
    2020-09-20 22:55:00.213 Loaded image FBMSAPG1Body02.png
    2020-09-20 22:55:00.214 Loaded image FBMSAPG1Body02.png
    2020-09-20 22:55:00.215 Loaded image FBMSAPG1BodyBase.png
    2020-09-20 22:55:00.216 Loaded image FBMSAPG1BodyBase.png
    2020-09-20 22:55:00.217 Loaded image StalkerGirl.png
    2020-09-20 22:55:00.218 Loaded image StalkerGirl.png
    2020-09-20 22:55:00.220 Loaded image FBMStephanie3.png
    2020-09-20 22:55:00.228 Loaded image FBMStephanie3.png
    2020-09-20 22:55:00.230 Loaded image FBMStephanie5.png
    2020-09-20 22:55:00.231 Loaded image FBMStephanie5.png
    2020-09-20 22:55:00.232 Loaded image FBMStephanie5CurvyBody.png
    2020-09-20 22:55:00.233 Loaded image FBMStephanie5CurvyBody.png
    2020-09-20 22:55:00.234 Loaded image FBMStephanie5ModelBody.png
    2020-09-20 22:55:00.236 Loaded image FBMStephanie5ModelBody.png
    2020-09-20 22:55:00.237 Loaded image FBMTJMJulieBody01.png
    2020-09-20 22:55:00.238 Loaded image FBMTJMJulieBody01.png
    2020-09-20 22:55:00.246 Loaded image FBMTJMJulieBody01.png
    2020-09-20 22:55:00.247 Loaded image FBMTJMJulieBody01.png
    2020-09-20 22:56:49.245 Loaded image FBMJulie.png
    2020-09-20 22:56:49.246 Loaded image FBMJulie.png
    2020-09-20 23:00:45.476 Loaded image FBMJulie.png
    2020-09-20 23:00:45.477 Loaded image FBMJulie.png
    2020-09-20 23:01:04.282 *** Scene Cleared ***
    >>>told Daz new <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
    2020-09-20 23:01:14.733 *** Scene Cleared ***
    2020-09-20 23:01:18.894 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(4930): Could not 

    find parent for modifier: PBM3duSadieHead.
    2020-09-20 23:01:18.894 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(1431): Failed to 

    prepare modifier: PBM3duSadieHead!
    2020-09-20 23:01:18.967 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(1442): Failed to 

    create modifier: PBM3duSadieHead!
    2020-09-20 23:01:20.071 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5759): Could not 

    find output property for formula: Genesis:/data/DAZ

    %203D/Genesis/Base/Morphs/Mallenlane/Hitomi/PHMHitomiRealisticNose.dsf#PHMHitomiRealisticNose?value in 

    file : /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis/Base/Morphs/Morris/Andrei/CTRLAndrei.dsf
    2020-09-20 23:01:20.073 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(5759): Could not 

    find output property for formula: Genesis:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis/Base/Morphs/DAZ%203D/The%20Girl

    %204/FBMTheGirl4.dsf#FBMTheGirl4?value in file : /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis/Base/Morphs/JK/BLC/JKBlanca.dsf
    2020-09-20 23:01:23.063 File loaded in 0 min 8.3 sec.
    2020-09-20 23:01:23.063 Loaded file: Genesis.duf
    2020-09-20 23:01:24.278 Could not resolve : "/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis2/Base/Genesis2.dsf"
    2020-09-20 23:01:24.452 Loaded Morph Deltas in 0 min 0.0 sec.
    2020-09-20 23:01:24.452 Loaded file: PBMJulieBreastsShape2.dsf
    2020-09-20 23:01:24.481 Loaded Morph Deltas in 0 min 0.0 sec.
    2020-09-20 23:01:24.482 Loaded file: FBMJulie.dsf
    >>>> guess it didn't load the pings again because they were already in the shaping menu



     

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  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    I was expecting complete, unedited log...

    It doesn't matter, what morphs are activated on a character. Every character including the base character reads each and every morph-file that has been installed for the associated base figure (Genesis)
    Loading the base figure is necessary to eliminate any and all morphs that are intentionally activated for the loaded character.

    From the information you posted, I would start looking for the "Genesis2" reference in the files that "Andrei for Freak 5" has installed into Genesis, it has had problems to start with. (https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/17347/not-a-good-job-daz)

    To fix Julie beeing activated for the base figure;

    1. Load your base figure (Genesis base).
    2. Select "Show Hidden" in the Parameters-Tab, drop down menu (right-click)
    3. Zero the figure (Found in Parameters-Tab, drop down menu)
    4. Memorize the figure (Found in Parameters-Tab, drop down menu)
    5. File->Save As->Support Asset->Save Modified Assets

    This procedure will zero the default value in the ill-behaving morph/morphs, and while saving DS also shows you a list of the morphs it is changing.

  • sigh, it did exactly what you said.. showed me it was going to change genesis duf, julie duf and julie breasts duf 
    and then reloaded exactly the same. 
    did it again.
    load genesis
    zero figure etc etc
    show what it will change 
    and if it changed it then overright of the julie stuff is coming in somewhere else
    (also all freak 5 -- which I have never used is now uninstalled -- theoretically)
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    thought all you need was the log file starting with the figure import but I suppose all might help. 
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    I would say only pursue this if if challenges your curiosity..  I automatically check for julie and her boobs on any male genesis characters I load .. and mostly locking the parameters sames to beat the issue when I reload a saved character. 
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    uploaded the log file. 
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    thanks for looking into this. 
     

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  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024
    edited September 2020

    The first thing that jumped out from you log was 6 lines of "Nested directory encountered while adding a Poser folder:"... This may have something to do with you problems. You need to fix your content libraries so that there is no nesting (Same content available via different content libraries)

    Also in regards to the reference to "Genesis2.duf"... That may come from a product that exists for both, the Genesis and Genesis 2. I see references to Deepsea EVE in your log, and that one does have versions for every Genesis generation.

    The Julie issue sounds odd... You could install Genesis Starter essentials again, if by some change Julie has somehow been activated in the *.duf that loads the Genesis base character, the procedure that I gave corrects problems inside the morph files which is a different thing.

    Will get off work soon. If something comes to mind, I'll get back later.

    Post edited by PerttiA on
  • PerttiA said:

    The first thing that jumped out from you log was 6 lines of "Nested directory encountered while adding a Poser folder:"... This may have something to do with you problems. You need to fix your content libraries so that there is no nesting (Same content available via different content libraries)

    Also in regards to the reference to "Genesis2.duf"... That may come from a product that exists for both, the Genesis and Genesis 2. I see references to Deepsea EVE in your log, and that one does have versions for every Genesis generation.

    The Julie issue sounds odd... You could install Genesis Starter essentials again, if by some change Julie has somehow been activated in the *.duf that loads the Genesis base character, the procedure that I gave corrects problems inside the morph files which is a different thing.

    Will get off work soon. If something comes to mind, I'll get back later.

    I did reinstall the genesis a couple of times.. didn't help..  but may have been tied back to all the freak5 stuff that was messing up gen3 females but not the mails...  
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    and as noted in the other thread..  zeroing the genesis did solve the problem.. I forgot to rename the new file to override the old one. 
    thanks

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