Grouping figures not at origin

arnon

Before it worked the way I want, now it's like this:

Figure A is several meters off the origin 0,0,0 and in conjunction with Figure B (embrace). I want to move both around together. In the former scene I chose both figures, "add new group", both figures were in the group, most important the group was created at Figure A/B position and I could move the group around. Fine. Well, this scene got lost due to Studio crashing when I reopen it and all work from that dady is lost.

So I started from a previous point and again did the same. However now the group is created somewhere off both the origin and the original figures' position and both figures moved to this strange grid I tried several grouping option but I don't get the group to appear at the exact point of where the "children" of this group are located. It's like I got there a cursor (I remember this from Blender), as when I merged Figure B into the scene it appeared at exaclty this strange position.So it's like a hotspot or something.But there is no Null or anything. Nothing!

What am I doing wrong? This software is very demanding and not always intuitive.

Richard Haseltine

How are the figures moved? By the hip or by the figure node?

mwasielewski1990

arnon said:

Before it worked the way I want, now it's like this:

Figure A is several meters off the origin 0,0,0 and in conjunction with Figure B (embrace). I want to move both around together. In the former scene I chose both figures, "add new group", both figures were in the group, most important the group was created at Figure A/B position and I could move the group around. Fine. Well, this scene got lost due to Studio crashing when I reopen it and all work from that dady is lost.

So I started from a previous point and again did the same. However now the group is created somewhere off both the origin and the original figures' position and both figures moved to this strange grid I tried several grouping option but I don't get the group to appear at the exact point of where the "children" of this group are located. It's like I got there a cursor (I remember this from Blender), as when I merged Figure B into the scene it appeared at exaclty this strange position.So it's like a hotspot or something.But there is no Null or anything. Nothing!

What am I doing wrong? This software is very demanding and not always intuitive.

1) create a NULL (Top Menu -> CREATE -> New Null)

2) Position the NULL where you want the "center of the 2 chcracters"

3) Parent both characters to the NULL

4) select null and move, rotate, etc...

That should do it :)

arnon

Richard Haseltine said:

How are the figures moved? By the hip or by the figure node?

I move them either by the figure node or the translations in Parameters.

mwasielewski1990 said:

1) create a NULL (Top Menu -> CREATE -> New Null)

2) Position the NULL where you want the "center of the 2 chcracters"

3) Parent both characters to the NULL

4) select null and move, rotate, etc...

From what I understand that would just move the characters together with the NULL and in relation to the NULL (offset). Ok, I could use the Align Tool and center them, but I fear then Figure A is centered and Figure B is centered, and not the composition.

What I did: I parented Figure B to Figure A (or vice versa, doesn't matter) and move the parent around.

TBorNot

I've noticed that quite a few product poses include offsets for the hips, which is amazing annoying when it comes to rotations.  I just zero the hip offsets when I buy the product and resave, it's worth the time.  Of course, I lose the ability to reload from the DAZ3DIM if my drive crashes.  Oh well.

Richard Haseltine

If they use the hip for anything other than keeping the feet on the ground or relative postioning in a multi-figure pose then please rport it as a possible bug.