Where are texture maps for this old product? [Solved]

lukon100lukon100 Posts: 811
edited November 2020 in Daz Studio Discussion

What is the path to the texture maps for the RDNA Props Pack - Fantasy Banquet items?

This is a discontinued, Poser targeted product that somehow lost its ability to load the texture maps for its items on Daz Studio:

https://zonegfx.com/props-pack-fantasy-banquet-set/

So I need to locate those texture maps to apply them "manually". But I can't find them.

Post edited by lukon100 on

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  • OmnifluxOmniflux Posts: 383
    edited November 2020

    Content :

    • /Runtime/Geometries/PropsClub/Banquet/Tr_BanquetCandlesticks1.obj
    • /Runtime/Geometries/PropsClub/Banquet/Tr_BanquetCandlesticks2.obj
    • /Runtime/Geometries/PropsClub/Banquet/Tr_BanquetCandlesticks3.obj
    • /Runtime/Geometries/PropsClub/Banquet/Tr_BanquetCandlesticks4.obj
    • /Runtime/Geometries/PropsClub/Banquet/Tr_BanquetChair.obj
    • /Runtime/Geometries/PropsClub/Banquet/Tr_BanquetGreatChair.obj
    • /Runtime/Geometries/PropsClub/Banquet/Tr_BanquetTable.obj
    • /Runtime/Geometries/PropsClub/Banquet/Tr_Cylix.obj
    • /Runtime/Geometries/PropsClub/Banquet/Tr_Flagon.obj
    • /Runtime/Geometries/PropsClub/Banquet/Tr_Goblet.obj
    • /Runtime/Geometries/PropsClub/Banquet/Tr_MCandle.obj
    • /Runtime/Geometries/PropsClub/Banquet/Tr_Plate.obj
    • /Runtime/Geometries/PropsClub/Banquet/Tr_Platter.obj
    • /Runtime/Geometries/PropsClub/Banquet/Tr_Wine.obj
    • /Runtime/Libraries/Props/RDNA Fantasy/Banquet Chair P6.png
    • /Runtime/Libraries/Props/RDNA Fantasy/Banquet Chair P6.pp2
    • /Runtime/Libraries/Props/RDNA Fantasy/Banquet Great Chair P6.png
    • /Runtime/Libraries/Props/RDNA Fantasy/Banquet Great Chair P6.pp2
    • /Runtime/Libraries/Props/RDNA Fantasy/Banquet Table P6.png
    • /Runtime/Libraries/Props/RDNA Fantasy/Banquet Table P6.pp2
    • /Runtime/Libraries/Props/RDNA Fantasy/Candlestick 1 P6.png
    • /Runtime/Libraries/Props/RDNA Fantasy/Candlestick 1 P6.pp2
    • /Runtime/Libraries/Props/RDNA Fantasy/Candlestick 2 P6.png
    • /Runtime/Libraries/Props/RDNA Fantasy/Candlestick 2 P6.pp2
    • /Runtime/Libraries/Props/RDNA Fantasy/Candlestick 3 P6.png
    • /Runtime/Libraries/Props/RDNA Fantasy/Candlestick 3 P6.pp2
    • /Runtime/Libraries/Props/RDNA Fantasy/Candlestick 4 P6.png
    • /Runtime/Libraries/Props/RDNA Fantasy/Candlestick 4 P6.pp2
    • /Runtime/Libraries/Props/RDNA Fantasy/Cylix P6.png
    • /Runtime/Libraries/Props/RDNA Fantasy/Cylix P6.pp2
    • /Runtime/Libraries/Props/RDNA Fantasy/Flagon P6.png
    • /Runtime/Libraries/Props/RDNA Fantasy/Flagon P6.pp2
    • /Runtime/Libraries/Props/RDNA Fantasy/Goblet P6.png
    • /Runtime/Libraries/Props/RDNA Fantasy/Goblet P6.pp2
    • /Runtime/Libraries/Props/RDNA Fantasy/Morphing Candle P6.png
    • /Runtime/Libraries/Props/RDNA Fantasy/Morphing Candle P6.pp2
    • /Runtime/Libraries/Props/RDNA Fantasy/Plate P6.png
    • /Runtime/Libraries/Props/RDNA Fantasy/Plate P6.pp2
    • /Runtime/Libraries/Props/RDNA Fantasy/Platter P6.png
    • /Runtime/Libraries/Props/RDNA Fantasy/Platter P6.pp2
    • /Runtime/Libraries/Props/RDNA Fantasy/Wine P6.png
    • /Runtime/Libraries/Props/RDNA Fantasy/Wine P6.pp2
    • /Runtime/Support/DAZ_3D_28644_Props_Pack_-_Fantasy_Banquet_Set.dsx
    • /Runtime/Textures/PropsClub/Banquet/Tr_Banq_Ref1.jpg
    • /Runtime/Textures/PropsClub/Banquet/Tr_Banq_Ref2.jpg
    • /Runtime/Textures/PropsClub/Banquet/Tr_BanquetCandlesticks1.jpg
    • /Runtime/Textures/PropsClub/Banquet/Tr_BanquetCandlesticks2.jpg
    • /Runtime/Textures/PropsClub/Banquet/Tr_BanquetCandlesticks3.jpg
    • /Runtime/Textures/PropsClub/Banquet/Tr_BanquetCandlesticks4.jpg
    • /Runtime/Textures/PropsClub/Banquet/Tr_BSet_Back001.jpg
    • /Runtime/Textures/PropsClub/Banquet/Tr_BSet_BackBump.jpg
    • /Runtime/Textures/PropsClub/Banquet/Tr_BSet_Seat001.jpg
    • /Runtime/Textures/PropsClub/Banquet/Tr_BSet_SeatBump.jpg
    • /Runtime/Textures/PropsClub/Banquet/Tr_BSet_Sides,jpg.jpg
    • /Runtime/Textures/PropsClub/Banquet/Tr_BSet_Sides.jpg
    • /Runtime/Textures/PropsClub/Banquet/Tr_BSet_SidesBump.jpg
    • /Runtime/Textures/PropsClub/Banquet/Tr_BSet_Top.jpg
    • /Runtime/Textures/PropsClub/Banquet/Tr_BSet_TopBump.jpg
    • /Runtime/Textures/PropsClub/Banquet/Tr_BSet_Wood001.jpg
    • /Runtime/Textures/PropsClub/Banquet/Tr_Cylix_Bump.jpg
    • /Runtime/Textures/PropsClub/Banquet/Tr_Flagon_Bump.jpg
    • /Runtime/Textures/PropsClub/Banquet/Tr_Goblet_Bump.jpg
    • /Runtime/Textures/PropsClub/Banquet/Tr_MCandle.jpg
    • /Runtime/Textures/PropsClub/Banquet/Tr_MCandleTr.jpg
    • /Runtime/Textures/PropsClub/Banquet/Tr_Plate_Bump.jpg
    • /Runtime/Textures/PropsClub/Banquet/Tr_Platter_Bump.jpg
    • /Runtime/Textures/PropsClub/Banquet/Tr_Wine_Bump.jpg
    Post edited by Omniflux on
  • lukon100lukon100 Posts: 811

    Ooooo, a folder called "PropsClub"!

    Thanks so much, Omniflux!

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 11,812
    lukon100 said:

    Ooooo, a folder called "PropsClub"!

    Traveler's Props club was a site run by Traveler loooong ago, which offered small props sets regularly for a subscription IIRC. Some of these props sets were sold at RDNA afterward.

  • lukon100 said:

    What is the path to the texture maps for the RDNA Props Pack - Fantasy Banquet items?

    This is a discontinued, Poser targeted product that somehow lost its ability to load the texture maps for its items on Daz Studio:

    https://zonegfx.com/props-pack-fantasy-banquet-set/

    So I need to locate those texture maps to apply them "manually". But I can't find them.

    You might not need to fiddle with manual texturing. Usually if there's a "can't find textures" error, you get a prompt to either locate the wayward file, skip this one, or ignore all other find errors. Once you link to the first one, all the others should follow on.

    That said... I just realised I got this a few years back, but never installed it. I've had a look at it, and the textures apply with no problem. Maybe your content installation has a glitch, or the textures folder for this one item is missing or misplaced. Do you still have the installer?

    It's a very nice set, too — definitely an "oldie but goodie". A lot of Traveler's stuff ages well like that. I think I'll convert them all to native D|S format and Iray materials tomorrow, when I have a bit of spare time.

  • lukon100lukon100 Posts: 811
    lukon100 said:

    What is the path to the texture maps for the RDNA Props Pack - Fantasy Banquet items?

    This is a discontinued, Poser targeted product that somehow lost its ability to load the texture maps for its items on Daz Studio:

    https://zonegfx.com/props-pack-fantasy-banquet-set/

    So I need to locate those texture maps to apply them "manually". But I can't find them.

    You might not need to fiddle with manual texturing. Usually if there's a "can't find textures" error, you get a prompt to either locate the wayward file, skip this one, or ignore all other find errors. Once you link to the first one, all the others should follow on.

    That said... I just realised I got this a few years back, but never installed it. I've had a look at it, and the textures apply with no problem. Maybe your content installation has a glitch, or the textures folder for this one item is missing or misplaced. Do you still have the installer?

    It's a very nice set, too — definitely an "oldie but goodie". A lot of Traveler's stuff ages well like that. I think I'll convert them all to native D|S format and Iray materials tomorrow, when I have a bit of spare time.

    When I loaded the candlesticks, I got no error message at all. But the candlesticks loaded without the texture maps. They just loaded with a flat, default, monochromatic color, like green. So on my installation, the texture maps don't load, and the system doesn't even "know" that texture maps are supposed to load.

    I'm using Studio 4.11.

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 11,812

    Items loading "blank" and then you need to apply a material pose were quite common long ago. Check the pose section for material presets.

  • lukon100lukon100 Posts: 811
    Leana said:

    Items loading "blank" and then you need to apply a material pose were quite common long ago. Check the pose section for material presets.

    Easier said than done.

    While Omniflux has given me the Windows 10 path to those mat/pose files, the Daz Studio Content Manager database system does not correspond to that Windows 10 path. Daz CMS can file that folder under any arbitrary name the vendor(s) decided to use.

    Suppose I have hundreds of items in my CMS directory tree at "Poser Formats>MY Daz 3D Library>Pose". What would be the name to seek for the product in question? It could have been called any of several things and I have no way of knowing which. It makes me take pot-shot guesses. And so far, for this product, my pot-shot guesses have all been wrong.

  • lukon100 said:
    Leana said:

    Items loading "blank" and then you need to apply a material pose were quite common long ago. Check the pose section for material presets.

    Easier said than done.

    While Omniflux has given me the Windows 10 path to those mat/pose files, the Daz Studio Content Manager database system does not correspond to that Windows 10 path. Daz CMS can file that folder under any arbitrary name the vendor(s) decided to use.

    Suppose I have hundreds of items in my CMS directory tree at "Poser Formats>MY Daz 3D Library>Pose". What would be the name to seek for the product in question? It could have been called any of several things and I have no way of knowing which. It makes me take pot-shot guesses. And so far, for this product, my pot-shot guesses have all been wrong.

    Poser Formats>MY Daz 3D Library>Pose is a location on disc, not a category/product location from the CMS. The problem here is that, although later versions of Poser did allow the mixing of file types, the default behaviour is to segregate file types into different libraries. if the item is in the CMS then you could right-click on it and select the option to show in Categories or in products, which would let you find all of the files and you could then use the content type tags at top-right to find the actor, prop, wearable etc. that loads the actual model.

  • lukon100 said:
    When I loaded the candlesticks, I got no error message at all. But the candlesticks loaded without the texture maps. They just loaded with a flat, default, monochromatic color, like green. So on my installation, the texture maps don't load, and the system doesn't even "know" that texture maps are supposed to load.

    OK, I finally finished converting to D|S native format and tweaking the materials for Iray.

    It's a bit of a muddle, actually — the wooden bits (chairs and table) load with all the proper textures. The gold tableware (plates, cups, etc.) don't have texture maps, just diffuse and glossy colours; there are bump maps in the /Runtime/Textures/ folder, but they aren't applied. The candlesticks are the same, except only the "candlestick2" loads with the proper colours, all the others load with different wrong colours.

    A bit of copy-pasting in the Surfaces pane, and everything looks a lot better. Not actually a difficult fix, but a bit of a head-scratcher until I worked out what was going on.

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