Genesis 8 male "anatomical" figure

I'm attempting a Parthenon scene and cannot find this figure to add to my statuary. Is it included in the Genesis 8 figure that comes with the upgrade?

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  • The "anatomical elements", as Daz likes to call them, can be obtained by buying any (adult, realistic) Pro Bundle for the figure in question. That's the only way to get them.

  • CricketCricket Posts: 465

    It is only included with the various Pro Bundles for Genesis 8 Male (as the female version is only available with the Genesis 8 Female Pro Bundles).

  • y3kmany3kman Posts: 802

    I recommend purchasing third party anatomical products over the official DAZ naughty bits.

  • MasterstrokeMasterstroke Posts: 2,049
    edited December 2020

    y3kman said:

    I recommend purchasing third party anatomical products over the official DAZ naughty bits.

    Well, to be honest, I don‘t think, those 3rd party bits are that much better.

    I have tried them all, and I always return to the original DAZ bits. No problems with bone distorsion, or massive geo shell layers, that are hard to exposrt to other apps for rendering.

    Post edited by Masterstroke on
  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,782

    Masterstroke said:

    y3kman said:

    I recommend purchasing third party anatomical products over the official DAZ naughty bits.

    Well, to be honest, I don‘t think, those 3rd party bits are that much better.

    I have tried them all, and I always return to the original DAZ bits. No problems with bone distorsion, or massive geo shell layers, that are hard to exposrt to other apps for rendering.

    Maybe for the males, but the female third party addons are light years better than the default

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,677
    edited December 2020

    I think the third party ones for guys look odd to me. They do one part of the male anatomy well, but most of the time, they look strange to me. But whatever people like.

    Fortunately there are good vendors such as Male-M3dia who include extras in their male morph sets which make the gens work better.

    Post edited by Serene Night on
  • FSMCDesigns said:

    Masterstroke said:

    y3kman said:

    I recommend purchasing third party anatomical products over the official DAZ naughty bits.

    Well, to be honest, I don‘t think, those 3rd party bits are that much better.

    I have tried them all, and I always return to the original DAZ bits. No problems with bone distorsion, or massive geo shell layers, that are hard to exposrt to other apps for rendering.

    Maybe for the males, but the female third party addons are light years better than the default

    I was talking about female bits only.

  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    Serene Night said:

    I think the third party ones for guys look odd to me. They do one part of the male anatomy well, but most of the time, they look strange to me. But whatever people like.

    Fortunately there are good vendors such as Male-M3dia who include extras in their male morph sets which make the gens work better.

    And as far as I know, there isn't a male anatomy kit that could make the textures for itself, based on the textures that have been applied to the main figure -> If the third party kit doesn't use the same textures as the DAZ ones, it takes time to make the textures and get them to match the figure.

  • Serene Night said:

    I think the third party ones for guys look odd to me. They do one part of the male anatomy well, but most of the time, they look strange to me. But whatever people like.

    Fortunately there are good vendors such as Male-M3dia who include extras in their male morph sets which make the gens work better.

    Just to be clear, are you saying that the Male-M3dia morphs will allow the male anatomical elements to stand at attention? Because that would be useful. And if so, can you link to the specific product? Thanks. 

  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,310

    Serene Night said:

    I think the third party ones for guys look odd to me. They do one part of the male anatomy well, but most of the time, they look strange to me. But whatever people like.

    Fortunately there are good vendors such as Male-M3dia who include extras in their male morph sets which make the gens work better.

    Extras like little blue pills?

  • marblemarble Posts: 7,500

    Masterstroke said:

    y3kman said:

    I recommend purchasing third party anatomical products over the official DAZ naughty bits.

    Well, to be honest, I don‘t think, those 3rd party bits are that much better.

    I have tried them all, and I always return to the original DAZ bits. No problems with bone distorsion, or massive geo shell layers, that are hard to exposrt to other apps for rendering.

    I think the main reason people buy third party anatomy is due to the DAZ policy of forcing customers to buy a Pro bundle if they want the DAZ versions. Having said that, I have both for G3M and prefer the Meipe version. There is no need to use the extreme morphs that are displayed in the promos at R'otica. I don't use G8M but most of my female characters are G8F and I have the two popular thrid party products but not the DAZ version. I don't normally buy Pro bundles (they are usually full of stuff that I have no use for). 

  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,190

    marble said:

    Masterstroke said:

    y3kman said:

    I recommend purchasing third party anatomical products over the official DAZ naughty bits.

    Well, to be honest, I don‘t think, those 3rd party bits are that much better.

    I have tried them all, and I always return to the original DAZ bits. No problems with bone distorsion, or massive geo shell layers, that are hard to exposrt to other apps for rendering.

    I think the main reason people buy third party anatomy is due to the DAZ policy of forcing customers to buy a Pro bundle if they want the DAZ versions. Having said that, I have both for G3M and prefer the Meipe version. There is no need to use the extreme morphs that are displayed in the promos at R'otica. I don't use G8M but most of my female characters are G8F and I have the two popular thrid party products but not the DAZ version. I don't normally buy Pro bundles (they are usually full of stuff that I have no use for). 

    I went third-party after I bought my first pro bundle, loaded up the gens, fiddled with the settings and thought "that's it?". 

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,677

    wmiller314 said:

    Serene Night said:

    I think the third party ones for guys look odd to me. They do one part of the male anatomy well, but most of the time, they look strange to me. But whatever people like.

    Fortunately there are good vendors such as Male-M3dia who include extras in their male morph sets which make the gens work better.

    Just to be clear, are you saying that the Male-M3dia morphs will allow the male anatomical elements to stand at attention? Because that would be useful. And if so, can you link to the specific product? Thanks. 

    The morph made by Male-M3dia aren't pose controls but additional extras to add some nice features the elements lack.

    As far as pose controls, they do exist already on the elements, but you can also buy controling utilities by  Sci-fi Design at Renderhub or Renderotica. 

  • wmiller314 said:

    Serene Night said:

    I think the third party ones for guys look odd to me. They do one part of the male anatomy well, but most of the time, they look strange to me. But whatever people like.

    Fortunately there are good vendors such as Male-M3dia who include extras in their male morph sets which make the gens work better.

    Just to be clear, are you saying that the Male-M3dia morphs will allow the male anatomical elements to stand at attention? Because that would be useful. And if so, can you link to the specific product? Thanks. 

    Even with the default anatomical elements as Daz calls them, you can pose so it stands at attention. It has bones and can be posed however you need. However, I have to say I love Male-M3dia's attention to detail and extra morphs. I have several of his guys and he adds morphs to the anatomical elements so they fit the physique of his guys. Not your standard default anatomical elements. Most of the other vendors only add textures. Male-M3dia goes the extra mile to add the morphs which is always greatly appreciated!

  • ButchButch Posts: 799

    @PerttiA  Over at 'rotica you can get "Texture Exchanger", which uses the exisiting figure textures.  It does a good job, although you do need photoshop or paint, etc.  The instructions are rather well written, too. 

    I don't seem to be able to "quote" at the moment. 

  • onixonix Posts: 282

    Serene Night said:

    I think the third party ones for guys look odd to me. They do one part of the male anatomy well, but most of the time, they look strange to me. But whatever people like.

    Fortunately there are good vendors such as Male-M3dia who include extras in their male morph sets which make the gens work better.

     

    Yes for some reason they were very unnatural but the latest versions seem to be adequate  You just need to do some adjusting with morphs

  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,782

    marble said:

    Masterstroke said:

    y3kman said:

    I recommend purchasing third party anatomical products over the official DAZ naughty bits.

    Well, to be honest, I don‘t think, those 3rd party bits are that much better.

    I have tried them all, and I always return to the original DAZ bits. No problems with bone distorsion, or massive geo shell layers, that are hard to exposrt to other apps for rendering.

    I think the main reason people buy third party anatomy is due to the DAZ policy of forcing customers to buy a Pro bundle if they want the DAZ versions. Having said that, I have both for G3M and prefer the Meipe version. There is no need to use the extreme morphs that are displayed in the promos at R'otica. I don't use G8M but most of my female characters are G8F and I have the two popular thrid party products but not the DAZ version. I don't normally buy Pro bundles (they are usually full of stuff that I have no use for). 

    That is pretty much me also. i rarely purchase pro bundles, but I had to have gens for my characters so investng in the 3rd party options was a no brainer. I find that they work great in DS, fast and efficient with a ton of options

  • As primarily an adult entertainment artist, I rarely use Daz gens.

    Sometimes characters dont come with gen mats. So instead of messing around trying match stuff up, I just use Dicktator or Golden Palace gens, which automaticly does it for you.

    There are texture, and shaping  add-ons for these gens too.

    All of the products from Meipe are top notch.

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,677

    Obviously, everyone's got to use what works best for them. I hope if they make Genesis 9 they upgrade the anatomical elements. G8m's are basically G3M's. 

  • You don't have to buy the whole pro bundle to get the gen part, just the original Daz character alone is suffient, and one is enough for all male/female charaters, if you want more extreme display of gen part, you need to look elsewhere 

  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,190

    windli3356 said:

    You don't have to buy the whole pro bundle to get the gen part, just the original Daz character alone is suffient, and one is enough for all male/female charaters, if you want more extreme display of gen part, you need to look elsewhere 

    False. The character may (or may not) come with gen textures, but the gens themselves only come in pro bundles. 

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,172

    windli3356 said:

    You don't have to buy the whole pro bundle to get the gen part, just the original Daz character alone is suffient, and one is enough for all male/female charaters, if you want more extreme display of gen part, you need to look elsewhere 

    Wrong. You DO have to buy a pro bundle to get the gens.

    Laurie

  • marblemarble Posts: 7,500

    Gordig said:

    windli3356 said:

    You don't have to buy the whole pro bundle to get the gen part, just the original Daz character alone is suffient, and one is enough for all male/female charaters, if you want more extreme display of gen part, you need to look elsewhere 

    False. The character may (or may not) come with gen textures, but the gens themselves only come in pro bundles. 

    Right. Not even the starter bundle.

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,677

    Now that pro bundles aren't a thing anymore they also come with these split or double bundles.

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 11,674
    edited December 2020

    What ever happend to the DAZ tradition of calling the anatomical bits, "toast"?*   And the problem with externally purchased toast is matching the texture color between body and toast or getting an external toast mesh with the proper UV mapping for the appropriate DAZ catalog textures that have toast texture included.  Agreed that some of the 3rd-party produced toast is more versatile and morphable (for whatever reasons), but for a Parthenon statue, extreme levels of versatility are probably not necessary and might not outweigh the need for a proper matching texture.  

    Also agreed that getting the toast only with the "Pro" figure is unnecessarily prudish and frustrating and expensive. I had to wait years before I finally caught a deep enough sale of the "Pro" characters that I needed to complete my toast collection.  

    * And how did that "toast" thing start, anyway?

    Post edited by LeatherGryphon on
  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,310

    LeatherGryphon said:

    What ever happend to the DAZ tradition of calling the anatomical bits, "toast"?*   And the problem with externally purchased toast is matching the texture color between body and toast or getting an external toast mesh with the proper UV mapping for the appropriate DAZ catalog textures that have toast texture included.  Agreed that some of the 3rd-party produced toast is more versatile and morphable (for whatever reasons), but for a Parthenon statue, extreme levels of versatility are probably not necessary and might not outweigh the need for a proper matching texture.  

    Also agreed that getting the toast only with the "Pro" figure is unnecessarily prudish and frustrating and expensive. I had to wait years before I finally caught a deep enough sale of the "Pro" characters that I needed to complete my toast collection.  

    * And how did that "toast" thing start, anyway?

    Matching textures with third-party bits, the popular ones at least, is normally much easier than with DO bits, for which there may or may not, at the discretion of the PA, be any suitable texture available.  Also, the Parthenon was a temple dedicated to Athena who was therein represented as fully clothed, so there truly wasn't a need for matching textures.

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,320
    edited December 2020

    If you have a Pro Bundle already, just buy Jepe's Roderick character. Also (not RawArt's sorry) Soto's Maxx HD and PedroFurtado's Alistair have options. However, Jepe's Roderick has far and away the most options. More than you'll need I'm pretty sure but I think the way he designed the morphs pretty much eliminates you running out of unique combinations than a person could reasonable manage in a reasonable amount of time. You can even combine them with other products already mentioned.

    There may be other products too but I'm not sure. I've nowhere near close to checking all the morphs that get loaded for G8 when I load them, haven't even tried to use them all to check them and I'm not going to own every character in the store.

    Post edited by nonesuch00 on
  • LeatherGryphon said:

    What ever happend to the DAZ tradition of calling the anatomical bits, "toast"?*   And the problem with externally purchased toast is matching the texture color between body and toast or getting an external toast mesh with the proper UV mapping for the appropriate DAZ catalog textures that have toast texture included.  Agreed that some of the 3rd-party produced toast is more versatile and morphable (for whatever reasons), but for a Parthenon statue, extreme levels of versatility are probably not necessary and might not outweigh the need for a proper matching texture.  

    Also agreed that getting the toast only with the "Pro" figure is unnecessarily prudish and frustrating and expensive. I had to wait years before I finally caught a deep enough sale of the "Pro" characters that I needed to complete my toast collection.  

    * And how did that "toast" thing start, anyway?

    "Toast" was a forum-user thing, nothing of Daz' doing. It came from a silly comment that was run with

  • This reminded me of the Daz days of yore. My Michael 3 came with a genitals option. (Can't recall if M4 did as well.)

    The icon used was anatomically correct! 

  • LeatherGryphon said:

    What ever happend to the DAZ tradition of calling the anatomical bits, "toast"?*   

    * And how did that "toast" thing start, anyway?

    Maybe from "if you post an image of those on the forum, you're toast!"

    First time I've heard of that DAZ tradition, but it's amusing. laugh

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