Juan Carlos 8 - Cyber Dystopia Bundle

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  • MimicMollyMimicMolly Posts: 2,211
    edited December 2020
    tsarist said:

    I'm disappointed in the clothing, a shapeless dforce workout outfit is somehow cyberpunk?  Part of me wonders if no longer making original style bundles is simply to avoid making men's outfits. Clothing options for men has gotten far worse with the new style bundles.

     

    Well to be fair, clothing & shoe options for men in the real world aren't that great.

    I went looking for shoes. There were 2 aisles for men & a dozen for women.

    If you go to Foot Locker, some other speciality store that sells lots of sporting shoes. You'll see that men get all the nice, beautiful shoes and women are stuck with pink or blinding neon colors.

    But I don't expect to find this level of realism with DAZ.

    Post edited by MimicMolly on
  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,085

    Lindsey said:

    FYI - The 20% Bundle Discount for buying 3 ‘Cyber Sidekick Stack-Up’ Items works on the new Cyber Dystopia Bundle too if you bought the Cyber Punk bundle with the same promo yesterday.  Also received an additional 20% for owning the Cyber Punk bundle purchased yesterday.

    Cyber   Promo     3+   Cyber     Total
    Dystopia   Price Loyalty   Sidekick   Punk     Discounts
    165.95 51% 81.32 30% 56.92 20% 45.54 20% 36.43   78%

     

    This assumes that you actually can or want to buy three items in the stack up sale.  As of this morning there is exactly one item in that entire list that I do not already own, so in order to invoke the discount, I would have to re-buy two of the least expensive items AND buy an expression pack that I have no interest in.  It's not as much of a discount when you have to pay money that you wouldn't otherwise have to spend in order to get it.      

     

  • alex86firealex86fire Posts: 1,130

    Cybersox said:

    Lindsey said:

    FYI - The 20% Bundle Discount for buying 3 ‘Cyber Sidekick Stack-Up’ Items works on the new Cyber Dystopia Bundle too if you bought the Cyber Punk bundle with the same promo yesterday.  Also received an additional 20% for owning the Cyber Punk bundle purchased yesterday.

    Cyber   Promo     3+   Cyber     Total
    Dystopia   Price Loyalty   Sidekick   Punk     Discounts
    165.95 51% 81.32 30% 56.92 20% 45.54 20% 36.43   78%

     

    This assumes that you actually can or want to buy three items in the stack up sale.  As of this morning there is exactly one item in that entire list that I do not already own, so in order to invoke the discount, I would have to re-buy two of the least expensive items AND buy an expression pack that I have no interest in.  It's not as much of a discount when you have to pay money that you wouldn't otherwise have to spend in order to get it.      

    Maybe that's a sign you own too much and shouldn't buy the pack :).

  • JOdelJOdel Posts: 6,288

    Yeah. I've got too much content as it is. Did pick up the title character and his HD yesterday. But I don't do SF or cyberpunk, and while I admired a couple of the things in both bundles there's no point in purchasing what I won't use.

  • tsaristtsarist Posts: 1,618
    tsarist said:

    I'm disappointed in the clothing, a shapeless dforce workout outfit is somehow cyberpunk?  Part of me wonders if no longer making original style bundles is simply to avoid making men's outfits. Clothing options for men has gotten far worse with the new style bundles.

     

    Well to be fair, clothing & shoe options for men in the real world aren't that great.

    I went looking for shoes. There were 2 aisles for men & a dozen for women.

    If you go to Foot Locker, some other speciality store that sells lots of sporting shoes. You'll see that men get all the nice, beautiful shoes and women are stuck with pink or blinding neon colors.

    But I don't expect to find this level of realism with DAZ.

    Oh, ok. I have never been to a Foot Locker or shopped for athletic shoes. The only shops I have ever been to have very poor selection for men.
  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,174

    alex86fire said:

    Same. This is ridiculous. Even more expensive. No banner for owners of bundles. Not even a discount for buying both.

    At least today there's a cheap debut item to activate the tutorial for 1$ promotion. I'm happy now, no way I'm touching the bundles.

    thats the way i went too 

  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 3,646

    Bundle? No. Tavia? Yes. She is my learning deal item.

  • tsaristtsarist Posts: 1,618
    Torquinox said:

    Bundle? No. Tavia? Yes. She is my learning deal item.

    That's a good pick.
  • Sad to see that the cyberpunk stuff offered is really subpar from previous cyberpunk designs. Only the guns came off as pretty decent. And the costs are pretty up there. Was this a rush type thing?

  • tsaristtsarist Posts: 1,618

    tsarist said:

    Serene Night said:

    I'm disappointed in the clothing, a shapeless dforce workout outfit is somehow cyberpunk?  Part of me wonders if no longer making original style bundles is simply to avoid making men's outfits. Clothing options for men has gotten far worse with the new style bundles.

     

    Well to be fair, clothing & shoe options for men in the real world aren't that great.

     

    I went looking for shoes. There were 2 aisles for men & a dozen for women.

    This isn't the real world. Presumably users who buy characters in the cyberpunk theme for guys want to give him cyberpunk outfits and implants. But looks like the gynocentric content is now filling up the male bundles as well. No cheers for me. Male characters got a small enough piece of pie to begin wtih, now, their bundles are getting filled with items from Vicky's closet.

    What?? Daz isn't the real world?? I thought RawArts monsters were real and aliens had invaded the Earth.

    Just messing with you. Yes, I hear your point.
  • MimicMollyMimicMolly Posts: 2,211
    tsarist said:
    tsarist said:

    I'm disappointed in the clothing, a shapeless dforce workout outfit is somehow cyberpunk?  Part of me wonders if no longer making original style bundles is simply to avoid making men's outfits. Clothing options for men has gotten far worse with the new style bundles.

     

    Well to be fair, clothing & shoe options for men in the real world aren't that great.

    I went looking for shoes. There were 2 aisles for men & a dozen for women.

    If you go to Foot Locker, some other speciality store that sells lots of sporting shoes. You'll see that men get all the nice, beautiful shoes and women are stuck with pink or blinding neon colors.

    But I don't expect to find this level of realism with DAZ.

    Oh, ok. I have never been to a Foot Locker or shopped for athletic shoes. The only shops I have ever been to have very poor selection for men.

    Yeah, department stores, and the like, have a terrible selection of shoes. I personally don't like what I see for women in them either.

    I agree, these futuristic/Cyberpunk bundles would've been excellent for including more "stylish" outfits for younger male characters. At least from my fond memories of American public schooling, a lot of teenage boys were really big into collecting basketball shoes. (Air Jordans, for example.) Niko 8's "default" outfit was a good example of something cyberpunk that doubles as contemporary wear. (Pretty much why I'm surprised that Juan Carlos 8 is cyberpunk...) The shop needs more of this type versatile cyberpunk clothing, IMHO

  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 15,225

    On 'realism' and figure assets by gender.

    The clothing economy for women is roughly 75% greater than for men in the United States. 

    Don't know about the rest of the world.  Personally, I doubt the US is unusual in this regard, but I've been wrong many times before.

    See Bureau of Economic Analysis (bea.gov)

    Table 2.4.5U. Personal Consumption Expenditures by Type of Product

    Clothing and footwear

    [Millions of dollars; quarters and months are seasonally adjusted at annual rates]

    Bureau of Economic Analysis

    Last Revised on: November 25, 2020 - Next Release Date December 22, 2020

    Women's and girls' clothing  175,565

    Men's and boys' clothing  97,846

     

     

     

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,172

    So, not only do we not get nearly as many males as females (though it's improved some), now we get female items IN male bundles. HARD, HARD pass. Urgh. No, just no.

    Laurie

  • Diomede said:

    On 'realism' and figure assets by gender.

    The clothing economy for women is roughly 75% greater than for men in the United States. 

    Don't know about the rest of the world.  Personally, I doubt the US is unusual in this regard, but I've been wrong many times before.

    See Bureau of Economic Analysis (bea.gov)

    Table 2.4.5U. Personal Consumption Expenditures by Type of Product

    Clothing and footwear

    [Millions of dollars; quarters and months are seasonally adjusted at annual rates]

    Bureau of Economic Analysis

    Last Revised on: November 25, 2020 - Next Release Date December 22, 2020

    Women's and girls' clothing  175,565

    Men's and boys' clothing  97,846

     

     

    And yet, equal amounts of fabric are used and male clothes still have three times the number of pockets XD

  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 15,225

    May Dawney said:

    Diomede said:

    On 'realism' and figure assets by gender.

    The clothing economy for women is roughly 75% greater than for men in the United States. 

    Don't know about the rest of the world.  Personally, I doubt the US is unusual in this regard, but I've been wrong many times before.

    See Bureau of Economic Analysis (bea.gov)

    Table 2.4.5U. Personal Consumption Expenditures by Type of Product

    Clothing and footwear

    [Millions of dollars; quarters and months are seasonally adjusted at annual rates]

    Bureau of Economic Analysis

    Last Revised on: November 25, 2020 - Next Release Date December 22, 2020

    Women's and girls' clothing  175,565

    Men's and boys' clothing  97,846

     

     

    And yet, equal amounts of fabric are used and male clothes still have three times the number of pockets XD

    Might be all the fabric saved from swimsuits.  laugh

  • MimicMollyMimicMolly Posts: 2,211
    Diomede said:

    May Dawney said:

    Diomede said:

    On 'realism' and figure assets by gender.

    The clothing economy for women is roughly 75% greater than for men in the United States. 

    Don't know about the rest of the world.  Personally, I doubt the US is unusual in this regard, but I've been wrong many times before.

    See Bureau of Economic Analysis (bea.gov)

    Table 2.4.5U. Personal Consumption Expenditures by Type of Product

    Clothing and footwear

    [Millions of dollars; quarters and months are seasonally adjusted at annual rates]

    Bureau of Economic Analysis

    Last Revised on: November 25, 2020 - Next Release Date December 22, 2020

    Women's and girls' clothing  175,565

    Men's and boys' clothing  97,846

     

     

    And yet, equal amounts of fabric are used and male clothes still have three times the number of pockets XD

    Might be all the fabric saved from swimsuits.  laugh

    Maybe if you do some IRL kitbashing with autofitted men's clothing, then pockets wouldn't be a problem. But then, you might have to export that clothing piece to a seamstress or alter it yourself. Especially for pants, since men's pants don't conform well on women.. :P

  • MimicMolly said:

    Diomede said:

    May Dawney said:

    Diomede said:

    On 'realism' and figure assets by gender.

    The clothing economy for women is roughly 75% greater than for men in the United States. 

    Don't know about the rest of the world.  Personally, I doubt the US is unusual in this regard, but I've been wrong many times before.

    See Bureau of Economic Analysis (bea.gov)

    Table 2.4.5U. Personal Consumption Expenditures by Type of Product

    Clothing and footwear

    [Millions of dollars; quarters and months are seasonally adjusted at annual rates]

    Bureau of Economic Analysis

    Last Revised on: November 25, 2020 - Next Release Date December 22, 2020

    Women's and girls' clothing  175,565

    Men's and boys' clothing  97,846

     

     

    And yet, equal amounts of fabric are used and male clothes still have three times the number of pockets XD

    Might be all the fabric saved from swimsuits.  laugh

    Maybe if you do some IRL kitbashing with autofitted men's clothing, then pockets wouldn't be a problem. But then, you might have to export that clothing piece to a seamstress or alter it yourself. Especially for pants, since men's pants don't conform well on women.. :P

    Over half of my wardrobe is from the male section. I like my pockets! XD

  • tsarist said:

    Torquinox said:

    Bundle? No. Tavia? Yes. She is my learning deal item.

    That's a good pick.

    I fully agree. Not only a nice new female character, but also with well structured and rather complete content. The set of materials is really nice. You know a Vex character when you see it laughlaugh 

  • LindseyLindsey Posts: 2,001
    edited December 2020

    Rod Wise Driggo:

    Just to clarify, the 20% additional discount on the Cyber Dystopia Bundle banner said:

    Because you own the Weight Workout Props and Poses for Genesis 8 and the Juan Carlos 8 Streets of Cyberpunk Bundle, we're offering you an EXTRA 20% OFF the Juan Carlos 8 Cyber Dystopia Bundle.

    I have no idea what the first product is, as I can't find it in the store, nor in my product library.
    Maybe they are just playing favorites as I have an embarrassing GINORMOUS store credit balance.     

    Post edited by Lindsey on
  • MelissaGTMelissaGT Posts: 2,611
    edited December 2020

    What female items were included in the bundle, short of hair that was for both male and female (cool), and a set of twin characters? I don't remember seeing anything that was exclusive to females? 

    Post edited by MelissaGT on
  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 3,646

    Mark_e593e0a5 said:

    tsarist said:

    Torquinox said:

    Bundle? No. Tavia? Yes. She is my learning deal item.

    That's a good pick.

    I fully agree. Not only a nice new female character, but also with well structured and rather complete content. The set of materials is really nice. You know a Vex character when you see it laughlaugh

    Good to know! Yes, I agree about Vex figures yes

  • AdieneAdiene Posts: 69

    Here is another render I did for Tavia that did not get in when I uploaded her! She was a lot of fun to work on and learn new things on. Hope you like what I have done with her :)



     

  • melissastjames said:

    What female items were included in the bundle, short of hair that was for both male and female (cool), and a set of twin characters? I don't remember seeing anything that was exclusive to females? 

    https://www.daz3d.com/tavia-for-genesis-8-female https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-beautyworks-cyberpunk-outfit-01-for-genesis-8-females

  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 3,646

    Adiene said:

    Here is another render I did for Tavia that did not get in when I uploaded her! She was a lot of fun to work on and learn new things on. Hope you like what I have done with her :)

    Cheers to you as well. Thank you for helping to make such a lovely figure! Your attached picture vanished. I'm not 100% sure, but I think you have to leave the thumbnail in the post or the picture gets deleted.

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,677
    edited December 2020

    Unisex hair isn't male hair, it is woman's hair. Unisex hair tends to be hair with a female generic hairline.

    Post edited by Serene Night on
  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,172

    Serene Night said:

    Unisex hair isn't male hair, it is woman's hair. Unisex hair tends to be hair with a female generic hairline.

    Agree.

    Laurie

  • TimbalesTimbales Posts: 2,366

    Serene Night said:

    yeah, Unisex hair isn't male hair, it is woman's hair. Unisex hair tends to be hair with a female generic hairline.

    Yeah, but look at how many more female-focused hair salons there are in the real world ....

    j/k

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,320
    edited December 2020

    Diomede said:

    On 'realism' and figure assets by gender.

    The clothing economy for women is roughly 75% greater than for men in the United States. 

    Don't know about the rest of the world.  Personally, I doubt the US is unusual in this regard, but I've been wrong many times before.

    See Bureau of Economic Analysis (bea.gov)

    Table 2.4.5U. Personal Consumption Expenditures by Type of Product

    Clothing and footwear

    [Millions of dollars; quarters and months are seasonally adjusted at annual rates]

    Bureau of Economic Analysis

    Last Revised on: November 25, 2020 - Next Release Date December 22, 2020

    Women's and girls' clothing  175,565

    Men's and boys' clothing  97,846

    DAZ's is more skewed than that. I'm surprised the clothing gap is so small in the real world.

    Post edited by nonesuch00 on
  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,085

    May Dawney said:

    Diomede said:

    On 'realism' and figure assets by gender.

    The clothing economy for women is roughly 75% greater than for men in the United States. 

    Don't know about the rest of the world.  Personally, I doubt the US is unusual in this regard, but I've been wrong many times before.

    See Bureau of Economic Analysis (bea.gov)

    Table 2.4.5U. Personal Consumption Expenditures by Type of Product

    Clothing and footwear

    [Millions of dollars; quarters and months are seasonally adjusted at annual rates]

    Bureau of Economic Analysis

    Last Revised on: November 25, 2020 - Next Release Date December 22, 2020

    Women's and girls' clothing  175,565

    Men's and boys' clothing  97,846

     

     

    And yet, equal amounts of fabric are used and male clothes still have three times the number of pockets XD

    Only because men are larger, their clothing conforms to a far greater surface area, and their clothing is generally made of far heavier weaves.  My ex could easily get clothes for five days in an overnight bag with room to spare, whereas I was lucky to get three in an identical case. If looked at in terms of the number of bolts of fabric used, though, the consumption of the women's clothing industry dwarfs that of its male counterpart, despite the fact that even a full length dress with long sleeves generally consumes less fabric than a shirt and pair of pants tailored for someone of the same size.   

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,677
    edited December 2020

    If the store reflected real life, roughly half of the figures would be male, and the largest ethnic group would likely not be white.

    Post edited by Serene Night on
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