Allow downloading of 4.12
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After trying out 4.14 beta for a month, I seemed to be convinced it was worthwhile to upgrade from 4.12 completely.
However, returning to some older scenes I wanted to render, I noticed it would drop either the GPU completely and so on. Researching, it is most likely the new memory requirements of 4.14 are responsible.
Thus, I am looking to downgrade to 4.12. I already send a message to the Help Center, but the response could be up to 4-6 weeks. Quite frankly, that would be an awful long time to just get a link to an install file, just in the christmas time when I have the most time to create :/
I understand Daz wants have everyone upgrade to 4.14 ASAP, but not having a limited time grace period is quite frankly... ridiculous?
Thoughts anyone?
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Only the latest version of DS general release and beta are available for download. That has been Daz policy for the last 15 years, so I doubt another thread in the forums will change that.
Double post, crouching comment
Indeed I doubt my lone rant in the wilderness is going to change anything, yet it is strange. Most software packages have at least a one version back download policy. Until recently I could download photoshop CS2 for instance. I think it's mostly the situation where I have to wait until I hear back from Daz, while it feels so unnecessary. It costs them and me time.
have you ever backed up your C drive on to another drive to the cloud to anywhere?
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If you copy your old daz program foler to a secondary or external drive.. it will still run after the installation of a new one on the main drive.
My last 2TB drive was $80 .. and thats enough to backup my daz stuff from the C drive.. basic my daz3d folder, program folder and the 1.5 T of data on the G drive.
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One absolute piece of wsdom I have learned since starting with computers in 1980 or so... they will crash, they will die, programs will change, you must back up ...
having said that I must admit I goof occasionally .. I failed to understand how fragile floppies are and even CDs burned in the early 90s.. so I can't install photoshop 1 (not CS1 which was ps8) but 1 from my floppies.
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back up everything a couple times is usually a good plan...
A $20 128g thumb drive will let you have a backup of your daz stuff from the C folder you can carry around your neck when you leave home.
Please file a help ticket to Dustomer Services explaining why you need to download an older version. They do normalyl work it out for people. I would also be surprised if it took as long as you seem to think it will.
Now I see where I went wrong. I went to CUSTOMER service and was told they don't do that. I thought you had to be as big as APPLE to be that arrogant on using their software on YOUR computer. YOU have to JUSTIFY using software the way you want? Because the customer is always WRONG? Not every version works on every computer, especially when each new version is more of a memory hog than the last. I was told never upgrade DAZ because you can never go back, but the last update was actually better-- renders that took an hour before I could now do in 15 minutes. So I took the chance of upgrading to 4.14 and my computer now groans under the strain of rotating a single figure
SERIOUS SUGGESTION: The trend of computers getting more powerful and less expensive has reversed itself, so why not create a new product-- DAZ Lite. Dust off one of the older versions, fix the more egregious errors, and slap a disclaimer on it "Not for use with Genesis 8"
Has it? In 1997 I paid over $300 for 4Mb of RAM. Not 4Gb. 4 Megabytes. Around that same time, I paid around $400 for a 428 MB hard disk. Again, Megabytes. Not Gigabytes. In 1996 I bought a PC with a 66 Mhz 32 bit processor, a 40 Megabyte hard disk, and 8 Megabytes of RAM. Cost? $2,200.
No, the trend of computers getting more powerful and less expensive has not reversed. It's just that some types of software and activities (such as 3D art) have become a lot more demanding on hardware and require some pretty high end stuff if you don't want glacial rendering speeds.
if you aren't a CG professional with a company footing the bill for you? Well, this can be a very expensive hobby depending on your goals. Keep in mind, though, that you can do things on $2,000 hardware today that 20 years ago would cost $20,000. Take a look at how much a typical graphics workstation cost 20 years ago. If you want to sit here and complain on a forum that it costs too much? Well, you are probably better off sticking with something like SFM.