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Four arms for G8F?

statistx_42556c1853statistx_42556c1853 Posts: 89
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So I want to make a Warhammer Keeper of Secrets kinda thing and got most parts of the character planned out...except for four arms.

I believe I saw something like this before, but I guess it was on G2 or 3, since I can't find it under Fantasy for G8 on the store, but maybe it was even something third party?

If nothing like that exists, any idea how to achieve that?

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  • Lissa_xyzLissa_xyz Posts: 6,116
    edited December 2020

    It was for Genesis and is no longer in the store. It was by a PA, etujedi, who's no longer a vendor here.

    When I think of things like this, the two PAs that come to mind are @Rawart and @Sickleyield.

    As for how to achieve it, look into geografting. I don't know the ins and outs of it myself, but you might be able to make something work by copying her existing arms in your modeling software of choice and creating the geograft using those.

    A lot of the time, people will just use a 2nd copy of the figure and hide the non-relevant parts.

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  • statistx_42556c1853statistx_42556c1853 Posts: 89

    Lissa_xyz said:

    It was for Genesis and is no longer in the store. It was by a PA, etujedi, who's no longer a vendor here.

    When I think of things like this, the two PAs that come to mind are @Rawart and @Sickleyield.

    As for how to achieve it, look into geografting. I don't know the ins and outs of it myself, but you might be able to make something work by copying her existing arms in your modeling software of choice and creating the geograft using those.

    A lot of the time, people will just use a 2nd copy of the figure and hide the non-relevant parts.

    Thanks, yeah I thought it was something older.

    Guess I have to look into geografting.

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,014

    I've repeatedly poked at ideas to do this, and I HIGHLY suggest going the route of a mostly hidden second figure.

    Geografting extra arms would be a huge amount of work and introduces problems a second figure would not have. There's a reason nobody's done it since Genesis. ;)

     

    The big problems are that you'd have to rerig the new arms entirely over, and then try to keep it consistent with the original problems. Then every shape that gets dialed in, you'd have to replicate or at least try to smooth the transition to the new arms.

     

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 11,742

    Oso3D said:

    The big problems are that you'd have to rerig the new arms entirely over, and then try to keep it consistent with the original problems. Then every shape that gets dialed in, you'd have to replicate or at least try to smooth the transition to the new arms.

    Adding to the morphs problem there's also the fact that textures made for the original figure most likely won't work on the new arms, limiting you to the few ones made for the geograft. Or that none of the clothes will work properly either.

  • andrushuk1andrushuk1 Posts: 342

    There is this one https://www.renderhub.com/monika/nike-for-genesis-8-female-extra-arms-fully-functional

  • Sven DullahSven Dullah Posts: 7,621

    andrushuk1 said:

    There is this one https://www.renderhub.com/monika/nike-for-genesis-8-female-extra-arms-fully-functional

    Pretty creepy stuffsurprise

  • Drogo NazhurDrogo Nazhur Posts: 1,119

    Oso3D said:

    I've repeatedly poked at ideas to do this, and I HIGHLY suggest going the route of a mostly hidden second figure.

    Geografting extra arms would be a huge amount of work and introduces problems a second figure would not have. There's a reason nobody's done it since Genesis. ;)

     

    The big problems are that you'd have to rerig the new arms entirely over, and then try to keep it consistent with the original problems. Then every shape that gets dialed in, you'd have to replicate or at least try to smooth the transition to the new arms.

    Do you have a link for the genesis version? 

  • GhostofMacbethGhostofMacbeth Posts: 1,635

    It is no longer in the store

  • StoicStoic Posts: 133


    The Dark Lord by Mechasar
    https://www.daz3d.com/the-dark-lord

     


    Four Arms For Genesis (No longer available)
    (The Documentation Center page for it is blank)
    http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/read_me/index/14259/start

    Triclops (No longer available)
    (The Documentation Center page for it is also blank)
    http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/read_me/index/14695/start

    RawArt had Bar Soomian (No longer available)
    http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/read_me/index/14261/start

     

    Two vendors at 3d-stuff community have downloads of a product "Four Arms For Genesis" (Don't know if it's the same product or not)
    One vendor is Demonicum Supremis, the other is Incy Vortex

     

    RuntimeDNA product Bruizer by ExprssnImg is no longer available but here is some detailed info on it
    https://web.archive.org/web/20090514055042/http://www.runtimedna.com:80/Bruizer.html

     

    Renderhub has:
    "Krullian for Genesis 8 Male" by Monika
    "Desy - A 4-Arm Goddess For Genesis 8 Female" by Monika

  • Lissa_xyzLissa_xyz Posts: 6,116
    edited December 2020

    Stoic said:

    Two vendors at 3d-stuff community have downloads of a product "Four Arms For Genesis" (Don't know if it's the same product or not)
    One vendor is Demonicum Supremis, the other is Incy Vortex

    These are both using the same promo image as the original product that was here; however, everything linked there, the buy button links to the actual vendor's store. These are not actually being sold there.

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  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,014

    Ok, using Genesis Four Arms with Forest king, to demonstrate issues.

    First, obviously, texture seams unless you make a skin exactly for using the geograft. That's no surprise.

    But second, the four arms shape doesn't match the regular arms at ALL. The product will adjust to standard/core shapes (like weight and fitness), but anything new? There's... just no way.

    This also means the arm movement is all messed up. It's not incredibly bad here, but I also tried it with Ribbits and got skin folding on itself and all sorts of nonsense.

     

    Four Arm King.jpg
    2000 x 1000 - 336K
  • Drogo NazhurDrogo Nazhur Posts: 1,119

    GhostofMacbeth said:

    It is no longer in the store

     Why are things removed from the store. Why not continue to sell them?

  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,071

    Drogo Nazhur said:

    GhostofMacbeth said:

    It is no longer in the store

     Why are things removed from the store. Why not continue to sell them?

    Reasons including, but not limited to: legal issues, the PA no longer wanting to sell that particular item, and the PA leaving Daz entirely. 

  • nemesis10nemesis10 Posts: 3,424
    edited December 2020

    I suddenly was remined of the limitations of the original genesis: 

    What!.jpeg
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  • Sphinx MagooSphinx Magoo Posts: 586

    andrushuk1 said:

    There is this one https://www.renderhub.com/monika/nike-for-genesis-8-female-extra-arms-fully-functional

    Wow. That looks great! Is RenderHub a pretty reliable site for purchases?

  • Catherine3678abCatherine3678ab Posts: 8,344
    edited February 2021

    Sphinx Magoo said:

    andrushuk1 said:

    There is this one https://www.renderhub.com/monika/nike-for-genesis-8-female-extra-arms-fully-functional

    Wow. That looks great! Is RenderHub a pretty reliable site for purchases?

    It is not a broker like Daz3D is. I have purchased some items with no problems as far as the transactions go. However I have noticed that it is what I call "buyer beware" as far as "what is being sold by who" ... not everything appears to be kosher. 

    Post edited by Catherine3678ab on
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