Bituka3d Gas Station

michaelfenixmichaelfenix Posts: 23
edited January 2021 in The Commons

Ok I see this in the store and it could be useful, HOWEVER, I see the creator had to narcissistically spam their name all over EVERYTHING! Seriously it's like using a UV light in a cheap hotel it's everywhere you look. You expect people to buy this and display your name everywhere in their renders? One maybe two places fine, but good gawd everywhere i looked bituka this, bituka that. SO my question is can all this childish spam be EASILY removed or will I have to make a bunch of new textures and spend an hour making stuff translucent to hide it from the preload?

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  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,781

    yep, it's truly over the top in this product and I agree with you. I have no issues redoing a few textures to fix things like this, but it's everywhere and in 3D also, so I highly doubt it's fixable.

    Odd how this isn't this vendors first product, so wouldn't expect this kind of work IMO

  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,781

    See I totally disagree with the self branding idea, it's over the top and impossible to change which is why it's useless for my projects. I don't have an issue with avoiding any copyright problems, but limit it to the 2D so users can change it for their own projects

    Not fond of some of the design aspects also since they are more whimsical than realistic.

  • This is always tricky - a modern setting would be unlikely to have only 2D signage, and people will expect something, so they need to pick an available name. Still, the 3D elements may well be hideable and if not there's always the Geometry Editor.

  • evacynevacyn Posts: 975
    I tend to agree. The self-branding really limits the use of it when they've modeled their name in 3d.
  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,310

    I dislike it when a set creator puts their name on everything, and in this case it's really over-the-top.  I don't mind PAs getting credit for their work, but don't want to pay for the privilege of providing them with free advertising.

  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 6,057

    FSMCDesigns said:

    See I totally disagree with the self branding idea, it's over the top and impossible to change which is why it's useless for my projects. I don't have an issue with avoiding any copyright problems, but limit it to the 2D so users can change it for their own projects

    Not fond of some of the design aspects also since they are more whimsical than realistic.

    I thought the self-branding was corny too, but it was executed much better than the alternative solutions I've seen. If I geometry edit "3d" and "Station" from the rooftop logo, then it won't be so odd. Compared with the hoops I've had to jump through to make TurboSquid stations work, I don't mind this at all.

  • SummerhorseSummerhorse Posts: 684
    edited January 2021

    The PA plastered his/their name all over everything, inside and outside, such a strange choice.

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,767
    edited January 2021

    Moved to the Commons as it was a comment on an existing product rather than product suggestion, and merged with comments split from Bituka3d Gas Station Yay! in order to keep the commentary on the logos in one place.

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  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715

    I don't have a problem with Bituka, the 3D part makes it awkard. In went in my wishlist, then got removed. There's loads of stuff in the product, but the 3D part makes it harder to deal with.

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,085

    I agree that there are some serious flaws here, not the least of which is the design and placement of the cash register:  first, no architect would ever have an object of that size and wetght be suspended only by a section of a huge glass or lucite window.  Second, it only faces the parking lot, and is at the same time completely open to the rest of the store from the backside.  Forget about calling it Bituka3D gas, what it should be called is "Please Rob Me."  I also have to seriously question the idea of having a car wash on a steep downward incline. 

    As to the signage issue, I agree that this is beyond over the top.  Fortunately it can be fixed by covering all the signage with primatives and adding one's own labeling that way. 

    On the plus size, there are a lof nice accessries and set dressing, though nothing that isn't already available in other sets. 

  • Faeryl WomynFaeryl Womyn Posts: 3,663

    Yes Cybersox I have way too much free time and also extremely curious so read the secret message...lol

    I agree with Cybersox about the how the store is designed, when thinking realistically. I also agree with the over the top name dropping on everything. I do disagree with the free advertising since you have to buy the item, which in turn means you are paying Bituka for advertising, if you want to get technical...lol

    Other then that, I do like it, since it would be fine for anything along toonish/anime lines. If you're not looking for realism, it's not a bad set.

  • To me, it's not so much that the name is plastered everywhere, but that it's such an unlikely name for a company like this. The "3D" part seems totally out of place. Ever hear of Shell3D or Esso3D? If the PA had just used "Bituka" it wouldn't have seemed as odd.

  • HaruchaiHaruchai Posts: 1,980

    ColinFrench said:

    To me, it's not so much that the name is plastered everywhere, but that it's such an unlikely name for a company like this. The "3D" part seems totally out of place. Ever hear of Shell3D or Esso3D? If the PA had just used "Bituka" it wouldn't have seemed as odd.

    +1. This is exactly what I thought.  Bituka Oil, Bituka Refineries or just plain Bituka would have worked. But the 3D added just doesn't work for me.

  • Hurdy3DHurdy3D Posts: 1,058

    Didn't add that product to the wishlist and I will not buy it, because of the self advertisement.

    So I agree with most posts of the thread here.

  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,310

    Haruchai said:

    ColinFrench said:

    To me, it's not so much that the name is plastered everywhere, but that it's such an unlikely name for a company like this. The "3D" part seems totally out of place. Ever hear of Shell3D or Esso3D? If the PA had just used "Bituka" it wouldn't have seemed as odd.

    +1. This is exactly what I thought.  Bituka Oil, Bituka Refineries or just plain Bituka would have worked. But the 3D added just doesn't work for me.

    Bituka would have been fine.  Reminds me of bitumen, so there's even a relationship with hydrocarbons. 

  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 6,057
    edited February 2021

    You guys are a tough crowd. It took 15 minutes to geometry edit the "3" & "3d" out of the meshes; (in the initial "B" logos, taking out the "D" left a hole in the "B," so I decided to leave it). Photoshopping the texture maps is going to take quite a while longer, since that logo is everywhere, and I let my PSCC subscription lapse. The gas pumps aren't rigged, but they're separate props; so, they can be replaced with something else. But, other than the pistol and the hose, the gas pumps are quite well-made; so, I'll probably just replace that. BTW, I looked up "bituka," and it's Tagalog (Filipino) for "intestine," "hose," "tube," "stockings," etc.

    I added some lowpoly pipo, BG buildings, & 3 cars.

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  • He lost a sale for this very reason.

  • xyer0 said:

    You guys are a tough crowd. It took 15 minutes to geometry edit the "3" & "3d" out of the meshes; (in the initial "B" logos, taking out the "D" left a hole in the "B," so I decided to leave it). Photoshopping the texture maps is going to take quite a while longer, since that logo is everywhere, and I let my PSCC subscription lapse. The gas pumps aren't rigged, but they're separate props; so, they can be replaced with something else. But, other than the pistol and the hose, the gas pumps are quite well-made; so, I'll probably just replace that. BTW, I looked up "bituka," and it's Tagalog (Filipino) for "intestine," "hose," "tube," "stockings," etc.

    I added some lowpoly pipo, BG buildings, & 3 cars.

    There's still a metric ton of "3D's" you'd need to get rid of on the outside and even more on the inside. 

  • Matt_CastleMatt_Castle Posts: 2,675

    xyer0 said:

    You guys are a tough crowd. It took 15 minutes to geometry edit the "3" & "3d" out of the meshes; (in the initial "B" logos, taking out the "D" left a hole in the "B," so I decided to leave it).

    That's what my mother would call "unacceptable transfer of effort". The author's decision means that a great many people who might (otherwise) have wanted to use the product have independently got to put in time and effort cleaning up the asset so that the results don't look weird.

    ~~~~

    Also, on a general level, I'm somewhat bemused at the number of creators who choose to put "3D" in their brand identity; it's so widely used as to become generic, and I can't be the only person who's mentally mixed up one "Someone3D" with a "SomeoneElse3D" from time to time.

    I have a general rule of not making my usernames anything to do with the site in question, otherwise you get the kind of thing where a third of the forum has picked a username with one or more of "Art", "Artist", "3D", "Renders", etc, etc somewhere in there.

  • Matt_Castle said:

    xyer0 said:

    You guys are a tough crowd. It took 15 minutes to geometry edit the "3" & "3d" out of the meshes; (in the initial "B" logos, taking out the "D" left a hole in the "B," so I decided to leave it).

    That's what my mother would call "unacceptable transfer of effort". The author's decision means that a great many people who might (otherwise) have wanted to use the product have independently got to put in time and effort cleaning up the asset so that the results don't look weird.

    ~~~~

    Also, on a general level, I'm somewhat bemused at the number of creators who choose to put "3D" in their brand identity; it's so widely used as to become generic, and I can't be the only person who's mentally mixed up one "Someone3D" with a "SomeoneElse3D" from time to time.

    I have a general rule of not making my usernames anything to do with the site in question, otherwise you get the kind of thing where a third of the forum has picked a username with one or more of "Art", "Artist", "3D", "Renders", etc, etc somewhere in there.

    yeah I went down that road with Th3Digit for a while but it was actually tongue in cheek and went over most people's head that I was referring to my middle finger. cheeky 

  • NylonGirlNylonGirl Posts: 1,936

    I do remember once asking Predatron about a Preta-3D product, or something like that. The person responded by saying they were not the maker of the product.

  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 6,057

    After exploring this set, what I'd really like is a food prep setup behind the bar, a cashier counter/wall between the bar and the deli window, a food window between the deli window and the bar prep area, and a restroom door somewhere. I can't blame the PA for not coming to this thread, but it looks like I'll have to kitbash all of these alterations myself.

  • fred9803fred9803 Posts: 1,564

     but it looks like I'll have to kitbash all of these alterations myself.

    Yeh the products on the shelves look like they could do with a decent kit-bashing if you're into something like realism. But that's what I like doing in DS, converting shite to bash out something realistic for my scenes. Putting scenes together is often more satisfying for me than rendering them.

  • nomad-ads_8ecd56922enomad-ads_8ecd56922e Posts: 1,960
    edited February 2021

    Yeah, I noriced the lack of restrooms in the set, too.  At least some static doors apparently leading off to a back room would have been good.

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  • mwokeemwokee Posts: 1,275
    I sell art through an agency and logos are unacceptable in the commercial world. Yes, these logos are fake but it becomes a big fight trying to convince the editor they're not real. One artist has soda bottles and I can't use them because they're the same shape as Coca Cola bottles because even shapes are trademarked. Colors are trademarked such as green and yellow on a tractor, John Deere has that trademarked. One artist has a set of city buildings with vintage signage of real products from the past. That was a no sale for me. The gas station is not an isolated situation but it is over the top. I am constantly frustrated with PAs who have no clue who their audience is and what the products may be used for. The smart ones have shader options to remove logos or you can hide signs and posters. There aren't very many smart ones.
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