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Is the Geforce GTX 1080 ti 11gb a good upgrade?

Levon777Levon777 Posts: 3
in Daz Studio Discussion
I currently have the GTX 1050 ti 4gb (I know, not good) and I've been using it for rendering (slowly) for a little while however my GPU sucks and I want to upgrade it, takes 8 hours to do a basic render with an environment. I don't have a solid 1k to throw at an RTX 3060 and I don't feel like waiting for it to become more available. I found a very good deal on the 1080 ti (from a reputable lender I've bought from), just wondering if the specific GPU is good for rendering on Daz, or if maybe I should look into a different one. Thanks in advance for any answers, I'm pretty new to the PC building world, so any advice is always appreciated.

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  • stephenschoonstephenschoon Posts: 360

    Yep, a GTX1080Ti is a good card, I have two of them, as long as the price is right.

    However you will always be better off getting the most up to date card you can even if it means waiting and saving up more money.

    Best Wishes
    Steve.

  • ebergerlyebergerly Posts: 3,255

    You might also consider that there are other solutions rather than merely applying better hardware. If your renders are taking 8 hours I suggest you review why they're taking so long. That's a really, really long time. My typical scene is designed to render in like 5-10 minutes. There's multiple ways to do that, such as scene management, making sure you have the optimum render settings, post work (compositing), and so on.

    Unless you're doing a lot of animations, if you can get your renders down to the 5-10 minute range using some of those techniques you may decide that you're better off using those techniques rather than spending $$ on hardware. In your case, if you can buy some hardware to bring your render times from 8 hours to 4 hours wouldn't that still be very unsatisfying? I'd rather have a typical 10 minute render and not really worry about new hardware. 

    Just a thought....

  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    ebergerly said:

    You might also consider that there are other solutions rather than merely applying better hardware. If your renders are taking 8 hours I suggest you review why they're taking so long. That's a really, really long time. My typical scene is designed to render in like 5-10 minutes. There's multiple ways to do that, such as scene management, making sure you have the optimum render settings, post work (compositing), and so on.

    Unless you're doing a lot of animations, if you can get your renders down to the 5-10 minute range using some of those techniques you may decide that you're better off using those techniques rather than spending $$ on hardware. In your case, if you can buy some hardware to bring your render times from 8 hours to 4 hours wouldn't that still be very unsatisfying? I'd rather have a typical 10 minute render and not really worry about new hardware. 

    Just a thought....

    8 hours versus 10 minutes... is the difference between CPU and GPU renders.

    8 hours was just normal with my old 4GB card, while my current 2070 super (8GB) can render the same scenes in 10-15 minutes.

  • ebergerlyebergerly Posts: 3,255
    edited February 2021

    PerttiA said:

    ebergerly said:

    You might also consider that there are other solutions rather than merely applying better hardware. If your renders are taking 8 hours I suggest you review why they're taking so long. That's a really, really long time. My typical scene is designed to render in like 5-10 minutes. There's multiple ways to do that, such as scene management, making sure you have the optimum render settings, post work (compositing), and so on.

    Unless you're doing a lot of animations, if you can get your renders down to the 5-10 minute range using some of those techniques you may decide that you're better off using those techniques rather than spending $$ on hardware. In your case, if you can buy some hardware to bring your render times from 8 hours to 4 hours wouldn't that still be very unsatisfying? I'd rather have a typical 10 minute render and not really worry about new hardware. 

    Just a thought....

    8 hours versus 10 minutes... is the difference between CPU and GPU renders.

    8 hours was just normal with my old 4GB card, while my current 2070 super (8GB) can render the same scenes in 10-15 minutes.

    Really? I just did a render using my GTX-1080ti and my RTX-2070 Super. It took about 2.5 minutes. I then ran the same one with only my Ryzen 7 1700, 8 core, 16 logical processor CPU, and all 16 processors were running at max. That render took just a tad over 40 minutes. That means the CPU render took 16 times as long as the dual GPU's.

    And I recall from the old benchmark thread that the same CPU took about 10 times as long as a GTX-1080ti rendering alone (20 minutes vs. 2 minutes with a different benchmark scene). 

    So I'm not sure how that translates to 8 hours vs. 10 minutes. Thats about 48 times as long, rather than 10-15 times.

    Were you using an old Intel 80286 from the 1980's? smiley 

     

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  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    ebergerly said:

    PerttiA said:

    ebergerly said:

    You might also consider that there are other solutions rather than merely applying better hardware. If your renders are taking 8 hours I suggest you review why they're taking so long. That's a really, really long time. My typical scene is designed to render in like 5-10 minutes. There's multiple ways to do that, such as scene management, making sure you have the optimum render settings, post work (compositing), and so on.

    Unless you're doing a lot of animations, if you can get your renders down to the 5-10 minute range using some of those techniques you may decide that you're better off using those techniques rather than spending $$ on hardware. In your case, if you can buy some hardware to bring your render times from 8 hours to 4 hours wouldn't that still be very unsatisfying? I'd rather have a typical 10 minute render and not really worry about new hardware. 

    Just a thought....

    8 hours versus 10 minutes... is the difference between CPU and GPU renders.

    8 hours was just normal with my old 4GB card, while my current 2070 super (8GB) can render the same scenes in 10-15 minutes.

    Really? I just did a render using my GTX-1080ti and my RTX-2070 Super. It took about 2.5 minutes. I then ran the same one with only my Ryzen 7 1700, 8 core, 16 logical processor CPU, and all 16 processors were running at max. That render took just a tad over 40 minutes. That means the CPU render took 16 times as long as the dual GPU's.

    And I recall from the old benchmark thread that the same CPU took about 10 times as long as a GTX-1080ti rendering alone (20 minutes vs. 2 minutes with a different benchmark scene). 

    So I'm not sure how that translates to 8 hours vs. 10 minutes. Thats about 48 times as long, rather than 10-15 times.

    Were you using an old Intel 80286 from the 1980's? smiley 

     

    And your old 1080ti also has only 4GB:s of VRAM? 

  • ebergerlyebergerly Posts: 3,255

    No, it has 11GB. Not sure what your point is. How is that relevant to relative render times of CPU vs. GPU's, 8 hours vs. 10 minutes? 

  • RexRedRexRed Posts: 1,374
    edited February 2021

    11gb is a very good upgrade from 4gb for certain.

    I would not buy it new and the scalpers are taking advantage of the shortages of cards.

    New 1080tis are going for around 900+ I have seen them over $1000 (they are noisy and run hot) 

    Amazon has sales on "refurbished" cards every now and then for $500.00. These are still in the box and practically new.

    But the 1080ti is only 1 gb more than a RTX 3080 and much slower and the 3080 is only a few hundred more.

    Now you can get a used 1080ti on Ebay for sometimes around 300 dollars.

    But was it use to death to mine bitcoin?

    If you can find a friend selling one for a few hundred it is worth buying. 

    But did your friend cook it to death by allowing it to run without the fans on high?

    Ebay is a grab bag and I personally would save up and get a new RTX 3080.

    You have a few months to do it.

    That may require getting a whole new PC designed to run a RTX 3080.

    A 1080ti probably needs a ram upgrade anyway. You need double the system ram as your graphics ram so that would be at least 22gb of system ram and PC lanes.

    And the 1080ti needs a bigger power supply, I would assume, than what you have.

    Figure on spending about 1,600

    Come here when you are ready to purchase one and people will help you pick one out. 

    Post edited by RexRed on
  • kgrosserkgrosser Posts: 141
    edited February 2021

    While I am actually still running a 1080Ti and think it was the most value i got out of 700,- spent on computer tech ever. (my Palit Jetsteream is dead silent, btw.)

    Yet, it has come to age and I don't think it's a sane investment and recommendable in 2021, even more so with the current situation driving the prices up to the 400,- and above range on these. Note it was discontinued with the launch of the RTX2000 series, so "new" at best would mean NOS, probably rather scam however, event he 2080Ti has been halted pproduction last year.  Anyway, and in all honesty, I don't feel one should consider anything without Tensor cores/RTX today.

    The anticipated but cancelled 3080 20GB would have been a perfect choice for us. Unfortunately (availability and skyrocketing pricings out of the equation) it wont happen. So with the current situation the upcoming 3060 12GB is the next best bet. Annonced to be priced in the ballpark  a used 1080Ti will run you it will be a much better investment when hopefully hiiting the shelves in larger numbers later this spring.

    Post edited by kgrosser on
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